Top Obama aides knew about Clinton's private email in 2009
Source: AP
By LISA LERER
WASHINGTON (AP) Senior Obama administration officials knew as early as 2009 that Hillary Rodham Clinton was using a private email address for her government correspondence.
White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel requested Clinton's email address on Sept. 5, 2009, according to one of some 3,000 pages of correspondence released by the State Department on Tuesday evening. His request came three months after top Obama strategist David Axelrod corresponded with Clinton, now a Democratic presidential contender, at her private address.
But it's unclear whether the officials realized Clinton was running her email from a server located in her Chappaqua, New York, home a potential security risk and violation of administration policy.
Clinton's emails have become a major issue in her early presidential campaign, as Republicans accuse her of using a private account rather than the standard government address to avoid public scrutiny of her correspondence. As the controversy has continued, Clinton has seen ratings of her character and trustworthiness drop in polling.
FULL story at link.
FILE - In this Jan. 23, 2014, then-Secretary of State Hillary Rodham testifies on Capitol Hill in Washington before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on the deadly September attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans. The State Department plans to make about 3,000 pages of Hillary Rodham Clinton's correspondence publically available on Tuesday evening. The release comes as part of a court mandate that the agency release batches of Clinton's email correspondence from her time as secretary of state every 30 days starting June 30. The goal is for the department to publicly unveil 55,000 pages of her emails by Jan. 29, 2016. They were sent from the personal email address that Clinton used when she was secretary. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)
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Botany
(70,581 posts)Karl Rove and company had a private email system built by Michael Connell for w and
company.
delrem
(9,688 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Liability is written all over this.
Botany
(70,581 posts)Al Gore said that he invented the internet.
John Kerry really wasn't a hero in Vietnam and injured himself.
We can never really know who won Florida 2000.
The Clinton people when they were leaving the White House stole all the "w keys"
from the keyboards.
Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton blocked any help to the Americans in Benghazi.
President Obama is weak because he doesn't call ISIS Islamic terrorists.
Wake up and smell the Rove!
George II
(67,782 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)The RW didn't force HRC to use this email system.
Weak.
Botany
(70,581 posts)If it wasn't for this email non story "they" would find something
else to make into a scandal. Remember White Water? It was a
money losing real estate deal that the right wing blew up into an
impeachment over a blow job.
Wake up and smell the Rove.
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)to pressure the Haitian government to keep slave wages for the benefit of Hanes, Levi Strauss, and the donors to the Clinton Foundation?
Did she communicate to them on her private server? I guess we'll never know, since she decided which emails were personal and which were business.
But that's okay, 'cause she loves us.
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)(swoon)
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)And OMalley doesnt wear his shirt sometimes!!
I guess i should use the sarcasm thingy but a lot of folks here probably think this is the truth.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)pnwmom
(108,994 posts)underthematrix
(5,811 posts)most people send and receive emails from more than one address.
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)leaked like a sieve. Ask Wikileaks.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)Realize there is a difference between sending and receiving emails from someone and knowing one of the parties has created a private email server in their home for the purpose of conducting official SOS business. yes O staff knew her email address but they definitely did not know the broader purpose of that email address. One thing PBO and his staff and pretty much all AAs never forget - President Obama is African American. He knows as the first African American POTUS, he has to be above reproach. HRC's private email account would not have been okay with him because he has great capacity for critical thinking and knows this is exactly what would happen. Hell I could have predicted this shit.
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)"The Secretary and Rahm are speaking, and she just asked him to email her can you send me her address please?" Amanda Anderson, Emanuel's assistant, wrote.
The only thing the administration is claiming is that they didn't know she was using her personal address exclusively. But they clearly knew she was using a personal address because that's what they were using to communicate with her -- NOT a .gov account.
But the irony of all of this is that her system might very well have been more secure. Snowden and Wikileaks didn't succeed in getting at any of her emails.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)email address. you are confirming what I said.
System security did not have anything to do with traitor snowden's case. He violated his secret secuirty clearance. Traotor snowden stole information and then released it, We call people who do those things traitors and their action treasonous.
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)their clearances. In doing so, he hacked the system. It shouldn't have been hackable to some employee without the proper clearance.
karynnj
(59,504 posts)Like she was supposed to. The fact that even when she left she gave nothing shows she was overtly trying to keep her email out of the record.
MBS
(9,688 posts)At BEST, it was seriously dumb political judgment and short-sighted logistical strategy to not have a fool-proof official-archiving system- automatically forwarding to government servers- in place. It does make you wonder about the rationale.
karynnj
(59,504 posts)It might be that many emails were done by aides at their direction. More basically I would bet that the Rahm aide might well have added the address to h address book. He then, if writing himself would type Hillary Clinton.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)pnwmom
(108,994 posts)At least her documents weren't spread all over by Wikileaks.
karynnj
(59,504 posts)Not emails.
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)that were obtained when Snowden used his knowledge to hack into parts of the system he wasn't allowed into.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)in the body of this article, apparently PBO staff emailed HRC at the private email address but it does not mean they knew it was her one and only means of email communication in her professional capacity as Sec of State:
But it's unclear whether the officials realized Clinton was running her email from a server located in her Chappaqua, New York, home a potential security risk and violation of administration policy.
Of course when I think about the 4500 young US service men and thousands of Iraqis who lost their lives in the Bush war, it's hard to even muster a meh about this nonsense.
840high
(17,196 posts)zeemike
(18,998 posts)If you can find something worse then this does not matter.
If we get into a war with Russia then Iraq will no longer matter and will just be nonsense.
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)Cha
(297,655 posts)Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)Laser102
(816 posts)He also told her he deleted his emails. All of them! Even the ones of the lead up to the Iraq war. Not one investigation!!! Must be just a Clinton thing to be investigated. Repugs love it. But she always wins. Haha
Darb
(2,807 posts)Nobody is listening to this horseshit.
quickesst
(6,283 posts).....you sure did get them this time.
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)As I see it, there are more important things to consider in choosing who to support to lead the country, such as what is her conception of just and unjust war? Under what conditions would she justify intervening in the affairs of foreign countries? What are her environmental ethics? What is her conception of social justice?
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)That's good for democracy, right?
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/hillary_gets_wiki-served_20101130?ln
Hillary Clinton should cut out the whining about what the Obama administration derides as stolen cables and confront the unpleasant truths they reveal about the contradictions of U.S. foreign policy and her own troubling performance. As with the earlier batch of WikiLeaks, in this latest release the corruption of our partners in Iraq and Afghanistan stands in full relief, and the net effect of nearly a decade of warfare is recognized as a strengthening of Irans influence throughout the region.
~snip~
Instead of disparaging the motives of the leakers, Hillary Clinton should offer a forthright explanation of why she continued the practice of Condoleezza Rice, her predecessor as secretary of state, of using American diplomats to spy on their colleagues working at the United Nations. Why did she issue a specific directive ordering U.S. diplomats to collect biometric information on U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon and many of his colleagues?
As the respected British newspaper The Guardian, which obtained the WikiLeaks cables, said in summarizing the matter: A classified directive which appears to blur the line between diplomacy and spying was issued to US diplomats under Hillary Clintons name in July 2009, demanding forensic technical details about the communications system used by top UN officials, including passwords and personal encryption keys used in private and commercial networks for official communications.
The Guardian pointed out that the Clinton directive violates the language of the original U.N. convention, which reads: The premises of the United Nations shall be inviolable. The spying effort derived from concern that U.N. rapporteurs might unearth embarrassing details about the U.S. treatment of prisoners in Guantánamo as well as in Iraq and Afghanistan. One of the directives demanded biographic and biometric information on Dr. Margaret Chan, the director of the World Health Organization, as well as details of her personality and management style. Maybe shes hiding bin Laden in her U.N. office.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/nov/28/us-embassy-cables-spying-un
A classified directive which appears to blur the line between diplomacy and spying was issued to US diplomats under Hillary Clinton's name in July 2009, demanding forensic technical details about the communications systems used by top UN officials, including passwords and personal encryption keys used in private and commercial networks for official communications.
It called for detailed biometric information "on key UN officials, to include undersecretaries, heads of specialised agencies and their chief advisers, top SYG [secretary general] aides, heads of peace operations and political field missions, including force commanders" as well as intelligence on Ban's "management and decision-making style and his influence on the secretariat". A parallel intelligence directive sent to diplomats in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Uganda, Rwanda and Burundi said biometric data included DNA, fingerprints and iris scans.
Washington also wanted credit card numbers, email addresses, phone, fax and pager numbers and even frequent-flyer account numbers for UN figures and "biographic and biometric information on UN Security Council permanent representatives".
~snip~
The UN has previously asserted that bugging the secretary general is illegal, citing the 1946 UN convention on privileges and immunities which states: "The premises of the United Nations shall be inviolable. The property and assets of the United Nations, wherever located and by whomsoever held, shall be immune from search, requisition, confiscation, expropriation and any other form of interference, whether by executive, administrative, judicial or legislative action".
http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/11/30/us-wikileaks-details-idUSTRE6AT1I720101130?pageNumber=3
ARGENTINA
-- U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton questioned the mental health of Argentina's President Cristina Fernandez, asking U.S. diplomats to investigate whether she was on medication.
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)on national security and related matters.
One can admire her for it or not, but for me, it's the main reason why she didn't get my vote in the 2008 primary and won't get my vote in the 2016 primary.