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Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 10:18 PM Jul 2015

US warns of Russia, China military threat amid growing chaos

Source: Yahoo! News / AFP

Washington (AFP) - America's new military strategy singles out states like China and Russia as aggressive and threatening to US security interests, while warning of growing technological challenges and worsening global stability.

A somber report released Wednesday by General Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, warns of a "low but growing" probability of the United States fighting a war with a major power, with "immense" consequences.

Russia has "repeatedly demonstrated that it does not respect the sovereignty of its neighbors and it is willing to use force to achieve its goals," the 2015 National Military Strategy says.

"Russia's military actions are undermining regional security directly and through proxy forces."

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/us-warns-russia-china-military-threat-amid-growing-222850933.html

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US warns of Russia, China military threat amid growing chaos (Original Post) Little Tich Jul 2015 OP
This is the pentagon's wet dream. Global blow-out wars with the big boys. loudsue Jul 2015 #1
Hate say it though but they did get one part right atleast cstanleytech Jul 2015 #2
Yes, its all our fault that China is building islands and bases 7962 Jul 2015 #4
Russia isnt just threatening, its actually invading them. nt cstanleytech Jul 2015 #7
For shame! Joe Chi Minh Jul 2015 #14
That really is hilarious, isn't it? bemildred Jul 2015 #18
Telescoping for Dummies. GeorgeGist Jul 2015 #3
I've been worried ever since Russia drew Mexico, Nicaragua and Venezeula into the Warsaw Pact. Octafish Jul 2015 #5
Sweden and Finland have reportedly been considering joining NATO davidpdx Jul 2015 #6
Yeah, South Korea was never in SEATO. Octafish Jul 2015 #9
Looks like Russia has NATO surrounded! Of course one could also see it the other way around. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #8
We need to frack Saskatchawan. Octafish Jul 2015 #10
Gee, Octfish, your map proves we aren't the only ones worried about Russia. MrTriumph Jul 2015 #11
Protection? Money? Octafish Jul 2015 #12
The first sentence reads like high comedy. Even now I'm having difficulty Joe Chi Minh Jul 2015 #13
When I was young I had a deck of cards with "friendly dictators" Little Tich Jul 2015 #15
Wow. Thank you. That's very interesting and worth bookmarking. Joe Chi Minh Jul 2015 #17
thats what happens when the threats & attacks by russia are allowed to continue. China is..... Sunlei Jul 2015 #16
cold war 2? Javaman Jul 2015 #19

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
1. This is the pentagon's wet dream. Global blow-out wars with the big boys.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 10:22 PM
Jul 2015
Have I said I hate these warmongering assholes???

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
2. Hate say it though but they did get one part right atleast
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 10:27 PM
Jul 2015

where it says that Russia has "repeatedly demonstrated that it does not respect the sovereignty of its neighbors"

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
4. Yes, its all our fault that China is building islands and bases
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 10:58 PM
Jul 2015

And that Russia is threatening their neighbors

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
5. I've been worried ever since Russia drew Mexico, Nicaragua and Venezeula into the Warsaw Pact.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:01 PM
Jul 2015


Shoot, they've surrounded us with bases, too. Even when Putin promised they wouldn't after the BFEE collapsed.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
6. Sweden and Finland have reportedly been considering joining NATO
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:28 PM
Jul 2015

with Russia flying into their airspace. They have always remained very neutral, but that might not hold for long.

and thank you for not posting the other map that alleged South Korea having NATO bases.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
8. Looks like Russia has NATO surrounded! Of course one could also see it the other way around.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:34 PM
Jul 2015

What potentially hostile countries allied with each other are surrounding America?

Oh...Canada??

MrTriumph

(1,720 posts)
11. Gee, Octfish, your map proves we aren't the only ones worried about Russia.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 12:22 AM
Jul 2015

If Russia were not a threat, why do so many countries want into NATO?

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
12. Protection? Money?
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 12:56 AM
Jul 2015

More money?



Baron de Rothschild and Prescott Bush, sharing a moment and a bit o' information about this small world, back in the day.

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
13. The first sentence reads like high comedy. Even now I'm having difficulty
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 06:06 AM
Jul 2015

suppressing my laughter. Self-parody even Orlov couldn't make more pungent.

'"Russia's military actions are undermining regional security directly and through proxy forces."

Imagine if they tried to pull a stunt like that, undermining regimes in South America, directly and through proxies, eh? The scoundrels! Go get 'em, Kissinger. Tell it like it is!

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
15. When I was young I had a deck of cards with "friendly dictators"
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 06:31 AM
Jul 2015

Each of the 35 cards featured a US-backed dictator and had a short descrition of what they'd done to deserve American friendship.

I didn't know much about anything at the time, and the cards were an eye opener.

This is card #3, Fulgienco Batista


3 FULGENCIO BATISTA
President of Cuba
Cuban Army Sergeant Fulgencio Batiste, first seized power in a 1932 coup. He was FDR's handpicked dictator to counteract leftists who had overthrown strongman Gerardo Machado, "the Butcher". Batista ruled for several years, then left for Miami, returning in 1952 just in time for another coup, against elected president Carlos Prio Socorras. His new regime was recognized in a flash by President Eisenhower.
Under Batista, U.S. interests flourished and little was said about democracy. With the loyal support of Batista, Mafioso boss Meyer Lansky developed Havana into an international drug port. Cabinet offices were bought and sold and military officials made huge sums on smuggling and vice rackets. Havana became a fashionable hot spot where America's rich and famous clinked cocktails with mobsters.
As the gap between the rich and poor grew wider, the poor grew impatient. In 1953, Fidel Castro led an armed group of rebels in a failed uprising on the Moncada army barracks. Fidel temporarily fled the country and Batista struck back with a vengeance. Freedom of speech was curtailed and "subversive" teachers, lawyers and public officials were fired from their jobs. Death squads tortured and killed thousands of "communists." Batista was assisted in his crackdown by Lansky and other members of organized crime who believed Castro would jeopardize their gambling and drug trade. Despite this, Batista remained a friend to Eisenhower and the U.S. until he was finally overthrown by Castro in 1959.


Heres a link to more info on them:
http://home.iprimus.com.au/korob/fdtcards/Cards_Index.html

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
16. thats what happens when the threats & attacks by russia are allowed to continue. China is.....
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 06:51 AM
Jul 2015

allowed to steal technology and hack everything for decades without anything done.

The entire world sits by and allows smaller countries to be dominated with 'Island building' ,airliner shoot downs and invasions.
what will probably happen is china and russia will let NK toss a nuke and wring their hands. we didn't know..

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
19. cold war 2?
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 03:18 PM
Jul 2015

folks, we fight a different kind of war now.

basically we have been in a world war since 9/11. we were fighting before that, but after 9/11 and the rise of the neo-cons, it went global.

Because of globalization and the over arching control of events by controlled by corporations, each "war" is a battle on a larger scale.

and what kind of war is being waged?

in the old days it was land, air and sea.

Now it's cyber, hot, and global economics.

And what is the final goal?

the control of the people. control of every single aspect of our lives.

and what is Russia and China's involvement?

They want in on that control.

once upon a time, it was need for resources and money that started wars.

now, in our multi-trillion dollar world existence, it's people. Or more likely peoples debt. That's were the money is these days.

think of it as a real life game of risk; control more nations via economic interests, and that's just another nation to check off the list for world domination.

people will die, as usual. collateral damage, don't you know. just faceless people that got in the way of a hostile take over of a nation. hostile take overs of corporations are old school; small peanuts.

most of the worlds "wealth" exists on paper and as long as you have the paper to "prove it" you can invade whom you want when you want. But as I said above, not all always via armies.

no need to invade, just squeeze them enough economically and they give up.

for those who control the people; they control the economy of the world.

This is why I truly hope Greece votes NO. Otherwise if they vote yes, they become a debtor nation for basically the rest of their lives. and in the global war, they will be just another statistic that fell under the rule of the economic elite of the world.


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