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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,446 posts)
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 12:22 PM Jul 2015

'Wow, pulled back wrong throttle:' captain of crashed TransAsia plane

Source: Reuters

Business | Thu Jul 2, 2015 7:08am EDT

TAIPEI/SINGAPORE | By Faith Hung and Siva Govindasamy

The pilot flying a TransAsia Airways (6702.TW) ATR mistakenly switched off the plane's only working engine seconds before it crashed in February, killing 43 people, Taiwan's Aviation Safety Council (ASC) said in its latest report on Thursday.

The ASC's report also showed that Captain Liao Jian-zong had failed simulator training in May 2014, in part because he had insufficient knowledge of how to deal with an engine flame-out on take-off.

"Wow, pulled back the wrong side throttle," Liao, 41, was heard to say on voice recordings seconds before the crash.

There appeared to be confusion in the cockpit as the two captains tried to regain control of the plane after one engine lost power about three minutes into the doomed flight. ... Liao reduced the throttle on the working engine but did not appear to realize his mistake until it was too late.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/02/us-taiwan-airplane-idUSKCN0PC05L20150702

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'Wow, pulled back wrong throttle:' captain of crashed TransAsia plane (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2015 OP
The fuel light is on, Frank! Xipe Totec Jul 2015 #1
Wow.. just wow.. n/t vkkv Jul 2015 #2
So, be shaky on the simulator and it's OK... Gloria Jul 2015 #3
How is that even possicle pscot Jul 2015 #4
You'd prefer a simple "off" switch (somewhere in all of the other switches)? Nihil Jul 2015 #5
More like some sort of interlock mechanism pscot Jul 2015 #8
failed simulator training in 2014, Captain by 2015. Sunlei Jul 2015 #6
Alarms were going off...... Capt.Rocky300 Jul 2015 #7

Gloria

(17,663 posts)
3. So, be shaky on the simulator and it's OK...
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 02:16 PM
Jul 2015

these people must be thinking that planes really do fly themselves all the time without problems....heck, it's just a plane up in the sky, for Pete's sake....a "fender bender" is to be expected once in awhile...

ugh, to flying...I have no urge at all due to the growing human problem...stress, drugs, bad sleep, mechanics forgetting to tighten something...we are the weakest link in all this!

pscot

(21,024 posts)
4. How is that even possicle
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 03:45 PM
Jul 2015

From a design standpoint, shouldn't it be impossible to accidentally kill an engine?

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
5. You'd prefer a simple "off" switch (somewhere in all of the other switches)?
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 08:26 AM
Jul 2015

There are legitimate times to kill an engine and the throttle can't tell one
from another ... that was supposed to be the pilot's job but it appears that
they preferred to use untrained monkeys instead on that airline ...

(Seriously, how can someone who failed the simulator be allowed
to fly a real plane complete with passengers?)

pscot

(21,024 posts)
8. More like some sort of interlock mechanism
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 09:46 AM
Jul 2015

where you have to throw 2 or more switches to kill an engine while airborne.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
6. failed simulator training in 2014, Captain by 2015.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 08:37 AM
Jul 2015

The very second a pilot makes a lethal mistake or even 'plays' with the settings (like the last plane crasher did before he actually did it) alarms should go off on plane and ground.

Capt.Rocky300

(1,005 posts)
7. Alarms were going off......
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 09:38 AM
Jul 2015

But alarms won't make up for poor training and a breakdown in cockpit discipline. Before any lever, switch or button setting is changed or activated, the pilot not executing the procedure should confirm the correctness of the other pilot's action before any change is made.

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