Since Webb is obviously to the right of Clinton, and if he draws any voters at all, will draw them from her.

...I don't think you're likely to see a shift.

just take votes away from Hillary. Go Bernie!

He speaks to the aggrieved white working class.

I don't disagree that it would be nice if the Democratic nominees at all levels received more white, working class votes. I can't figure out why so many vote Republican.
But, the rest of that statement is just baffling.
'Can't rely on black votes after Obama'?
The Democratic Party has relied on minority and disenfranchised voters for over sixty years.
What world is Webb living in?
Like to hear him explain that statement

Why would any Democrat vote for either Republican Lincoln Chaffee, or Webb, in the primary. I would agree, however, that both will probably attract voters who might have chosen Hillary, with her "New Democrat" stances on things, shipping jobs abroad with TPP and her general support of trade agreements that hurt American workers, her pro warring stances, her generally corporate outlook on most things.

uninspiring candidates

*YAWN*

We'll see where this goes.

I also think most of his support would come from otherwise-Hillary voters.

In the Senate. I would happily vote for Clinton over him if they were the only two choices.

Webb was never a progressive Democratic Senator.

He did his part to oust George 'Macaca' Allen. I thank him for that, but he'd still be my 6th choice after Bernie, O'Malley, Hillary, Biden, and Chaffee. Webb is too much of a blue dog for me.

Just keep the Democratic race clean and respectful, and I'm okay with it.

Oped after Kerry was the de facto nominee. He attacked JK BOTH on comments in 1972 that the WH knew the war was not winnable and on his 1990s work for reconciliation with Vietnam. For 30 years, he refused to haake hands with JK. JK in spite of this greatly helped him in 2006 even in the primary because he saw Webb as the best chance to get the seat.

Webb remained angry about Vietnam and often brought it up in the Senate and even on the SFRC. Beyond agreeing with JK, to me Webb's inability to get past what was a difference of opinion and treating JK as he did is troubling.

I don't like Webb.

I've got him, Hillary, Bernie, and O'Malley. Who's the fifth?

...the only one.

Ultimately endorsing Hillary.

Good news.

he will eventully endorse Bernie when he wins nomination.Webb and chafee are going to hit her on iraq.

If and when VP Biden enters the race he will bring in some humor, he generally has a genuine lovable personality.

As to Sen. Webb, he brings in the more conservative wing of the party. One thing about the Democratic Party, we are colorful. LOL

When I see the word "bipartisan," it makes me want to reach for my gun. Endorsing bipartisanship is giving up the struggle in advance.

Theres really no difference in "bipartisan" and "negotiation". You cant get everything you want 100% of the time. Its like wanting a dollar an hr raise and refusing to accept anything lower than that. You end up with nothing

Cut the innuendo. It's creepy.

You go on thinking you can get your way 100% of the time without any compromise. Thats living in a dream world. And yes, thats EXACTLY what the Tea Party people preach constantly. "No compromise!!!"
Live by that mantra and you end up with NOTHING. Jim Webb isnt the first one to talk about bipartisanship, Pres Obama has talked about it constantly.

... will no doubt have words for our former Secretary of State. He's also Southern, so I am interested to what he has to say about that broad subject.

Good.

Inless Biden decides to get in.And i think he won't.

I welcome Mr. Webb into the field.

Isn't he pro-Confederate flag and anti-Affirmative Action?

I wonder if they've polled all his wives, to see how they feel about those matters?

He'll probably pull the conversation to the right!

Oh well...it'll make the primaries interesting.

I will say one thing about Webb--I disagree with him on some things quite vehemently, but he is NOT STUPID. He has a quick mind, and he's always thinking. Some of the shit he thinks about (women's issues, that dumb ass racist flag) are dead WRONG, but his arguments are articulate in their horse-shittery!

Hubby read Sen. Webb's book. Marine's!

It's just that some of the things he's wrong about kick him down the list for me.


Like I said, if he mushed through to the general, I'd hold my nose and vote for him. It would be a reluctant vote but I'd do it nonetheless. The worst Democrat is better than the best Republican, after all!

I haven't followed him closely, but I remember when he took the seat from "macaca" and he was everyone's hero at the time for that. Interesting about the flag, what's his problem with women's issues?

As I always say, the worst Dem is better than the best Republican.

He is a Civil War enthusiast, and that might color (pardon the expression) his "Heritage" POV. That said, it is an insensitive POV and he is unlikely to adjust it, because he has Civil War relatives and his "heritage" is more important than the offense of millions of others.

He has a shit reputation amongst people who support women in the Armed Services. He tried like hell to block admission of women to the Naval Academy, was against lifting of combat exclusion, and went out of his way to devalue, dismiss and denigrate women in uniform for the entire time he was associated with DOD (not just as SECNAV). I will tell you that virtually every single woman in uniform--and plenty of male allies--thought the guy was, to put it kindly and in as mild a term as I can come up with, a "fucking asshole." When he resigned as SECNAV, there were more than a few people who said "Don't let the door hit ya, ya bastard" -- notwithstanding some good ideas he had with regard to spending and deployment issues.

He was "set upon" in no uncertain terms by a group of 0-6 women from all branches of service at a senior female leadership get-together in DC many years back, and got his ass handed to him so badly he stopped taking questions. I received feedback from officers who were there who said it was nothing short of a donnybrook! He definitely left with a piece of their minds, and a piece of his ass missing--though I don't think he was moved to change his stances re: women, which were neanderthal on a good day.

He's just not terribly "progressive" when it comes to things he's not, I suspect (he's not a person of color, he's not a female, he's not poor, etc.). Still, he's better than any Republican. This is why I say if he made it to the general, I would painfully, reluctantly vote for him.

There's a shade of an insult in that comment and I have to say it rubbed me the wrong way....

Why not be inclusive?

I think a big part of losing the Senate in 2014 were candidates running away from President Obama. The Dem candidate who wins the nom is going to want the President to campaign for them and with them, imo.. ie.. the Obama Coalition.

Something Webb evidently hasn't thought of since he seems to be so busy running away from him.

“You are not going to have a situation again where you have 96% of the African American vote turning out for one presidential candidate.” What makes him so bloody sure?

The President is more than about just being Black.. I don't care what ugly epithets people like Cornel West have to hurl.

Yeah, big dog whistle.. thanks for more of JW's quote, MADem

I'm liking this from Hillary..

Hillary: We must defend ObamaCare

riversedge http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1131245

fill-in-your-favorite-ethnic-designation, then they're going to EARN (as opposed to "win," like you do on Wheel of Fortune) 96% of that bloc's vote.

I really do dislike the way he approaches issues--the rather dire "You can't count on the Black man, got to have those 'reliable' whites to close the deal" meme just doesn't sit too well with me.

Maryland & Missouri and that some Confederate soldiers were abolitionists. His focus was on historical use of the flag.

"Webb argued that the U.S. should preserve every part of its history, even the uncomfortable ones."

“The Confederate Battle Flag has wrongly been used for racist and other purposes in recent decades,” Webb said. “It should not be used in any way as a political symbol that divides us.”

“This is a time for us to come together, and to recognize once more that our complex multicultural society is founded on the principle of mutual respect,” he said.

Source: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/246009-webb-defends-use-of-confederate-flag

Museums are fine. Even Civil War battlefields. But not on state flags or on state legislatures.

Not a good Democrat. Opposite of Bernie in a lot of ways.

an ex-Reagan official? Where do I sign up?

Don't think it'll happen, though.

kind of guy who would play second fiddle well.

The cabinet at most is a consolation prize/peace offering post-election. I think he's serious, and probably has been planning this for a while.

Fiorina wants VP, that's obvious. I seriously doubt anyone would put themselves through the horrific process of running for President for a cabinet position. It's not even that close to the throne, considering that Obama pretty much ignores his cabinet. Benny Rhodes and Valerie Jarret and McDonough run everything.

Obama won't BE President when the next cabinet is seated--the paradigm will shift yet again.

Every POTUS uses their staff differently. Dumbya delegated like hell and let his cabinet do all the heavy lifting day-to-day. One can't use today's working relationships to predict future ones--every President does it their own way. Some are delegators, others, micro-managers.

the GOP chairmanship into the UN Ambassadorship. Those two positions made him seem like a credible candidate for president, which enabled him to come in second to Reagan in the 1980 primaries. Being GOP Chairman especially helped him organize in Iowa, which enabled him to win the caucuses in 1980, thereby establishing himself as the chief alternative to Reagan.

At the Convention, Reagan briefly contemplated a bizarre plan to make Gerald Ford the VP. When that proved unworkable, he turned to the runner-up from the primaries, George HW Bush.

associations into that envoy gig. His wife was able to amass one of the biggest rolodexes (she called it her "Christmas card list&quot in the history of electoral politics--that was a MASSIVE donor list, before the days when those things were computerized, too. Not only were his associated positions in service to government useful but that list was incredibly useful too (and he added to it, 'big time' when he was RNC chair)--he could go to the well with those names, and parlay his moneyraising influence into political influence, given his background.

Gerald Ford wanted to be "co-president" with Reagan, and Reagan still had enough in the way of marbles to tell him where he could stuff that notion. Apparently Ford was somewhat insistent, and Reagan was having none of it. It would have been absurd--no one steps BACKWARD from the White House, even if one gets there without a single vote. The only options post-WH are in non-elective capacity, like the Supreme Court (Taft). For awhile there, there was talk about Bill Clinton running the UN (which would have been a break with custom/tradition, as Security Council countries don't put up candidates for that gig) -- it got a bit of buzz but in the end it went nowhere.

read his campaign announcement.

mattered

and pointed out Miller for what he was, in the primary

then, after Webb won, last he ever mentioned the issue

If he gets the nomination, I will hold my nose and vote for him, but I do not care for his stances on a number of issues.

The worst Democrat is better than the best Republican, but he only gets a leg up because he was smart enough to jump ship from the GOP.

He also bores easily--couldn't handle more than one term in the Senate--do we need someone who has walked out on more than one job (SECNAV) in the Leader of the Free World seat?

His personal life is RIPE for excoriation, too--that should not matter...but it DOES.

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Competition is a good thing.

Webb's a good man.

As far as military intervention goes. A centrist on economic issues however.

while eating into Bernie's populist support, or at least trying too.

Blech.

coalition of GLBT, African-American, Jewish, and Latino voters.

Call it a hunch.

I just dont see it. But hey, who knows?

Webb is already punching an economic fairness message.

Military background to boot. At this point in time I do see HRC's numbers remaining to the same tho.

particularly the hawks. It's just an older and whiter coalition he's aiming for than a Democrat has for a while.

i also think webb could draw from centrist/conservative dems and indys who will not want to vote for a woman president.

i am not a hrc fan, but i don't think dems can ignore that there are still "i will never vote for a woman" types. and they may not all be in the gop.

Only thing in common with Bernie is he is anti war otherwise he is mostly a Republican.

Ronald Reagan fan.

I heard a 20 minute interview. He spent 15 of them praising Reagan. It was disgusting.

We DON'T need this guy.

Hillary Clinton look a lot more appealing.

I'll read the letter because I can't imagine why in the world he is running.

But seriously, his campaign was part of our GOTV effort and I never felt he contributed much, just dipped in to the Senate to get some street cred.

That's code for increasing military expenditures and boots on the the ground. He's way too hawkish. I would think the principle obligation is to the quality of life for the citizens of the U.S. He's too right of center for my taste.

He was not/is not a member of the neocon tribe.

Hillary would be the first woman president. I think she would have more of a hair trigger than anyone else because she'd be eager to show the world that even though she's a woman, she's not to be messed with.

to take out another regime somewhere. Unlike Madame "We Came We Saw He Died".

but they usually fail to mention that the goalposts are constantly being moved.

He's far too conservative for my taste, probably closer to Chafee. Webb and Chafee are going to have a hard time getting support to the right of Clinton.

"Meh, meh, and double meh!"

Guy's got integrity, compassion, leadership, and smarts.

of his staffer.

There were lots of questions, with no answers. The 'suicide' was weirder than weird. Not the usual way....and it was all 'quiet'.

Besides, he's to hawkish for me, like Hillary and Biden.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=death+of+Senator+Webb%27s+staffer

Seriously in a week we are going to forget he is even a candidate.

That's kind of weird...

I was wondering if any more Dems were going to run, still not sure I guess.

Another third way corporatist!