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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Fri May 4, 2012, 06:11 PM May 2012

Nurse in Afghanistan Dies in Skype Chat with Wife

Source: Associated Press

Nurse in Afghanistan dies in Skype chat with wife

From Associated Press
May 04, 2012 5:33 PM EDT

HOUSTON (AP) — The wife of an Army officer serving in Afghanistan witnessed her husband's death as the two video chatted via Skype, his family said Friday.

The circumstances of Capt. Bruce Kevin Clark's death were not immediately available. The Pentagon said it was under investigation, and his brother-in-law said he didn't have details.

- snip -

A statement from the family released by Taber-Thomas said Clark died Monday while talking to his wife during one of their regular Skype sessions.

"At the time of the incident, the family was hoping for a rescue and miracle, but later learned that it was not to be," the statement said. "Although the circumstances were unimaginable, Bruce's wife and extended family will be forever thankful that he and his wife were together in his last moments."

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Nurse in Afghanistan Dies in Skype Chat with Wife (Original Post) Hissyspit May 2012 OP
Weird they wouldn't even say in what manner he died? Cooley Hurd May 2012 #1
More facts here. proverbialwisdom May 2012 #17
Thanks for the link tawadi May 2012 #18
More, yes. More facts, no. rocktivity May 2012 #20
Anther reason to BRING THEM HOME NOW!!!! Ken Burch May 2012 #2
Could it have been a suicide? Chemisse May 2012 #3
re: Nurse in Afghanistan Dies in Skype Chat with Wife allan01 May 2012 #4
"hoping for a rescue"? El Supremo May 2012 #5
once again why the h*ll are we still there? azurnoir May 2012 #6
So, so tragic - whatever the circumstances.......... Smilo May 2012 #7
If he was on Skype, wouldn't that indicate that he was on base? Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #8
Maybe they have smartphones? Neoma May 2012 #13
Can you use Skype on a cell phone? Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #14
Yeah, skype's on iPhone's. Neoma May 2012 #15
Heart attack? Suicide? kestrel91316 May 2012 #9
Sounds a bit like a suicide, but could have been a medical issue, like a heart attack. AtheistCrusader May 2012 #10
But why conceal it if it WAS a heart attack? rocktivity May 2012 #19
They usually don't discuss. AtheistCrusader May 2012 #21
Who would suicide with their spouse watching though? Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #22
Shit, some people kill their spouse and kids, and then themselves. AtheistCrusader May 2012 #23
External shot. AtheistCrusader May 2012 #28
Certain heart attack deaths in young adults can take weeks to determine.. Princess Turandot May 2012 #24
Hoping for a rescue and a miracle? bitchkitty May 2012 #11
Post removed Post removed May 2012 #12
How horrific tawadi May 2012 #16
Upated on this story : Wife saw bullet hole while Skyping with soldier tawadi May 2012 #25
Thanks for posting the updated news on this sad, sad story. Judi Lynn May 2012 #26
Hope people will see it tawadi May 2012 #27
Update: Army: no bullet wound found in soldier Skype death PoliticAverse May 2012 #29
 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
1. Weird they wouldn't even say in what manner he died?
Fri May 4, 2012, 06:17 PM
May 2012

Was there an explosion? Was there a gun shot? Did he just fall over?

proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
17. More facts here.
Sat May 5, 2012, 01:27 PM
May 2012
http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/05/us/afghanistan-skype-death/index.html

Army: Death of soldier who died during Skype session with wife is under investigation

By the CNN Wire Staff
updated 5:26 AM EDT, Sat May 5, 2012


(CNN) -- The death of a U.S. Army captain who died while engaged in a video chat with his wife from Afghanistan remained under investigation Saturday, the family said.

Capt. Bruce Kevin Clark was in Tarin Kowt, about 85 miles (140 kilometers) north of Kandahar, when he died during a Skype session with his wife.

Clarence Davis, a spokesman for the William Beaumont Army Medical Center in El Paso, Texas, where Clark was based, said that it has not been determined how Clark died and that the case is under investigation.

Clark's family said in a statement that they'd hoped for "a miracle" after his wife Susan saw what happened to Clark during their chat on Monday, but "it was not to be." They did not elaborate as to what took place.

"Although the circumstances were unimaginable, Bruce's wife and extended family will be forever thankful that he and his wife were together in his last moments," Clark's wife and family said Friday.

Clark -- known by many as Kevin -- was a chief nurse in the Army who amassed many honors in his military career, according to his family. Those include an Army Commendation Medal, Military Outstanding Volunteer Service, Global War on Terrorism Service Medal and an Army Service Medal.

The longtime resident of Spencerport, New York, joined the Army in September 2006 and served, among other places, at the Tripler Army Medical Center in Hawaii, according to a Beaumont Army Medical Center statement. More recently, he was based at that medical facility in southwest Texas and assigned to the Army's A Company, Troop Command.

"He loved being in the military," his sister-in-law Mariana Barry told CNN affiliate WHAM in upstate New York. "He was absolutely willing to make any sacrifice, and it's just horrible that this is the sacrifice he ended up making."

His commander described Clark, 43, as "awesome," "professional" and "a great asset, leader and friend," the family said.

After his death, special operations troops from the United States and Australia lined up to give him his final send-off from Afghanistan.

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tawadi

(2,110 posts)
18. Thanks for the link
Sat May 5, 2012, 04:41 PM
May 2012

'At the time of the incident, the family was hoping for a rescue and miracle, but later learned that it was not to be.'

Wonder what happened? Electrocution (like those soldiers who died of electrocution in showers)? A weapon discharged?

It is a strange story. Why release half a story?

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
20. More, yes. More facts, no.
Sat May 5, 2012, 05:35 PM
May 2012
...on Thursday, his casket was wrapped in an American flag as it was transported off a military plane onto the tarmac of Dover Air Force Base in Delaware, according to the U.S. Air Force Mortuary Affairs Operation.

While no dates have been given, the family said that Clark's funeral will be in Spencerport and a memorial service will be held in Addison, Michigan.


What's with the stateside spokesperson -- don't they have medical facilities over there? And why are there already plans to bury him while an "investigation" is still under way, and there's no official eyewitness statement or determination of death? This "showcase" officer either killed himself or he was ambushed by someone -- neither of which the Army wants to admit.


rocktivity
 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
2. Anther reason to BRING THEM HOME NOW!!!!
Fri May 4, 2012, 06:43 PM
May 2012

There's nothing there that's worth anymore deaths...American or Afghan. It no longer matters which "side" wins.
Can't people see that already?

allan01

(1,950 posts)
4. re: Nurse in Afghanistan Dies in Skype Chat with Wife
Fri May 4, 2012, 07:22 PM
May 2012

pres obama remember ur promise for a COMPLETE PULLOUT OF THIS SITUATIOn . bring our men home NOW

El Supremo

(20,365 posts)
5. "hoping for a rescue"?
Fri May 4, 2012, 07:27 PM
May 2012

I've read this story from several media sources and I can't figure out what was going on. It's big news in El Paso where he was stationed.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
6. once again why the h*ll are we still there?
Fri May 4, 2012, 07:27 PM
May 2012

what are we accomplishing?
long past time to bring them home

Smilo

(1,944 posts)
7. So, so tragic - whatever the circumstances..........
Fri May 4, 2012, 08:01 PM
May 2012

my sincere condolences to his wife and two children.

RIP Capt Clark.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
8. If he was on Skype, wouldn't that indicate that he was on base?
Fri May 4, 2012, 08:13 PM
May 2012

What would a rescue have to do with someone dying in front of a computer (again, presumably on base).

This is just strange how this is being reported.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
14. Can you use Skype on a cell phone?
Sat May 5, 2012, 01:41 AM
May 2012

I have only used it a few times, to talk with friends overseas, so am not very familiar with the software (other than Microsoft bought it )

Neoma

(10,039 posts)
15. Yeah, skype's on iPhone's.
Sat May 5, 2012, 10:05 AM
May 2012

Better yet, there's "FaceTime" on iPhone 4S, where it's like, even better than Skype. No lag, better picture. As to whether it has the ability to be used over seas? Yeah, no clue.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
10. Sounds a bit like a suicide, but could have been a medical issue, like a heart attack.
Fri May 4, 2012, 08:31 PM
May 2012

The way they frame the 'thankful they were together in his last moments' suggests a medical issue. I would not be thankful to witness if my spouse called me up and killed herself.

I would be surprised if this was enemy action. Doubtful someone would be on Skype away from the base, and I haven't heard of any major mortar or rocket attacks in the last two days.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
19. But why conceal it if it WAS a heart attack?
Sat May 5, 2012, 05:24 PM
May 2012

Of course that would have been an absolute tragedy, but even then that's not something that needs to be "investigated" or hushed up. And if the wife saw him die, what IS there to investigate? I smell a coverup and a gag order -- either a suicide or an attack by someone who entered the room.


rocktivity

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
21. They usually don't discuss.
Sat May 5, 2012, 09:01 PM
May 2012

But I agree, that does suggest a suicide.

The family will tell the public or not. If it was another person, there will be a trial, and we'll find out.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
22. Who would suicide with their spouse watching though?
Sat May 5, 2012, 10:13 PM
May 2012

and from half a world away no less.

That seems rather cruel to leave that visual as the last memory.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
23. Shit, some people kill their spouse and kids, and then themselves.
Sun May 6, 2012, 02:08 AM
May 2012

When people are that desperate, who knows.

But it is only one of many possibilities. Honestly, I feel weird speculating about it at all.

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
24. Certain heart attack deaths in young adults can take weeks to determine..
Sun May 6, 2012, 08:02 AM
May 2012

it's sometimes referred to as 'sudden adult death syndrome'. Young adults w/ no med history of cardiac problems sometimes collapse & die.
A 38 y.o. cousin of mine died that way; I think it took 4 weeks before they had an answer, long after he was buried.

bitchkitty

(7,349 posts)
11. Hoping for a rescue and a miracle?
Fri May 4, 2012, 08:36 PM
May 2012

Was he being held captive? This story is not clear at all. In any case, R.I.P. Captain Clark, I'm sorry you had to die thousands of miles away from home.

Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
26. Thanks for posting the updated news on this sad, sad story.
Sun May 6, 2012, 09:00 PM
May 2012

Hopefully it will be somewhat comforting to his wife, at some point when she realizes at least he died so quickly he was completely unaware he had been shot.

It IS a far cry from some of the earlier speculations, clearly, of course.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
29. Update: Army: no bullet wound found in soldier Skype death
Mon May 7, 2012, 09:48 PM
May 2012

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Army investigators said Monday they found no bullet wound or evidence of foul play in the death of a soldier in Afghanistan who died during a Skype video chat with his wife.

Capt. Bruce Kevin Clark collapsed while speaking to his wife on May 1 from his base in Tarin Kot, Afghanistan, southwest of Kabul. His wife, Susan Orellana-Clark, has suggested that Clark was shot, citing a hole visible in the closet behind him that she believed was a bullet hole.

Investigators said an initial probe showed no trauma to the body except that Clark broke his nose when he fell forward. Orellana-Clark said he didn't seem alarmed before he collapsed.

Christopher Grey, a spokesman for the Army Criminal Investigation Command, said Monday that the investigation is still under way.

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