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George II

(67,782 posts)
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 09:35 AM Jul 2015

Hillary Clinton hails South Carolina vote to take down Confederate flag

Source: Washington TIMES

By David Sherfinski - The Washington Times - Thursday, July 9, 2015

Former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton released a statement on the South Carolina legislature’s vote to remove the Confederate flag from statehouse grounds saying that removing the symbol “of our nation’s racist past” is a step forward but that “unfinished business” remains on confronting inequalities in the country.

“Removing this symbol of our nation’s racist past is an important step towards equality and civil rights in America,” Mrs. Clinton, the 2016 Democratic president frontrunner, said in a statement Thursday.

The South Carolina House voted early Thursday on a measure to remove the flag, sending it to Gov. Nikki Haley, who was expected to sign the measure into law. The debate over the Confederate flag has received renewed attention in the wake of the recent fatal shootings at Emanuel AME Church in Charleston.

“The flag may soon no longer fly at the State Capitol, but there is still unfinished business in confronting and acting on the inequalities that still exist in our country,” Mrs. Clinton said. “We can’t hide from the hard truths about race and justice. We must do everything in our power to have the courage to name them and change them.”

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/9/hillary-clinton-hails-south-carolina-vote-take-dow/



Yes, this is from the Washington TIMES! I'll change the reference once another news source is available with Clinton's statement.

Again:

“The flag may soon no longer fly at the State Capitol, but there is still unfinished business in confronting and acting on the inequalities that still exist in our country. We can’t hide from the hard truths about race and justice. We must do everything in our power to have the courage to name them and change them.”

Good for her!
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Hillary Clinton hails South Carolina vote to take down Confederate flag (Original Post) George II Jul 2015 OP
good to see her taking political risks HFRN Jul 2015 #1
I hear she's for putting an undisclosed woman on a twenty dollar bill as well. raindaddy Jul 2015 #8
she's also admitted that she likes cute puppies HFRN Jul 2015 #11
You mean there'll be a White House puppy? raindaddy Jul 2015 #14
You folks never disappoint. George II Jul 2015 #18
"political risks"?? pocoloco Jul 2015 #15
bet she doesnt return calls from Sinbad HFRN Jul 2015 #16
A big move towards healing in the US. I am amazed by the strong forgiving words from the families Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #2
During this entire ordeal TlalocW Jul 2015 #3
Go Hillary!!!! n/t cosmicone Jul 2015 #4
#1 riversedge Jul 2015 #5
They are not done crying. Got into an facebook fight with my niece - she put a pic of the jwirr Jul 2015 #6
To me the confederate flag represents the biggest threat to our nation's survival in our..... George II Jul 2015 #13
"Ignorance" is this country's middle name. Beacool Jul 2015 #48
Unfortunately. jwirr Jul 2015 #49
Did she write that with her Southern accent or her New York accent? bluedigger Jul 2015 #7
I just wanted to head off the inevitable "why hasn't Hillary commented on this yet"!! George II Jul 2015 #10
I noticed that when Hillary farts the news outlets mysteriously go silent. L0oniX Jul 2015 #21
And when Sanders farts it gets posted here with 157 DU-recs! George II Jul 2015 #22
Aww ...by your responce I gather that you seem to be upset with DU members. L0oniX Jul 2015 #24
Just some - those who want to shout down Hillary supporters or............ George II Jul 2015 #40
She's running for the presidency. tymorial Jul 2015 #26
The short answer, yes. Beacool Jul 2015 #46
but, but heaven05 Jul 2015 #9
Bold stand. TheCowsCameHome Jul 2015 #12
I saw what you did. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #19
I appreciate TheCowsCameHome Jul 2015 #23
What's "bold" about it? Beauregard Jul 2015 #41
the confederate flag was always a breach of flag etiquette HFRN Jul 2015 #17
It was not flying above the capitol. Beauregard Jul 2015 #43
Yes but when is she going to hail puppies and kittehs? L0oniX Jul 2015 #20
Taking down this symbol of hate is the right thing to do Gothmog Jul 2015 #25
I rec'd this for the comments. thesquanderer Jul 2015 #27
Consistently polling around 60% in most states (and nationally) is a sign of generating... George II Jul 2015 #28
High poll numbers is different from enthusiasm. thesquanderer Jul 2015 #32
You probably need to read this: Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #34
Not sure the point of sending me that link? thesquanderer Jul 2015 #35
"His Followers"? Moonies are "followers". I gotta say, that's a bit creepy, and just a tad scary. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #38
Okay, make that fans or supporters ;-) (n/t) thesquanderer Jul 2015 #45
I did see that this morning....good article, basically saying what I think is happening... George II Jul 2015 #39
HRC: Most Admired Woman in America 19 times. McCamy Taylor Jul 2015 #47
K & R Iliyah Jul 2015 #29
Being a bold leader Geronimoe Jul 2015 #30
Very good for her and good for us. Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #31
I Respect & Admire Secretary Clinton For Standing Up & Speaking Out For What She Believes In... Corey_Baker08 Jul 2015 #33
That's a good point. thesquanderer Jul 2015 #37
Hillary's been speaking "1-on-1" with the communities affected by our nation's original sin. She.. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #36
A candidate can get a much better idea of what the voters are thinking..... George II Jul 2015 #42
I agree. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #44
Rallies are great, and effective, but not several months before the first Primary.... George II Jul 2015 #50
 

HFRN

(1,469 posts)
1. good to see her taking political risks
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 09:38 AM
Jul 2015

i see this as a sign of a much more forthcoming Hillary in the near future

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
8. I hear she's for putting an undisclosed woman on a twenty dollar bill as well.
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 10:27 AM
Jul 2015

It's all about the people!!!

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
2. A big move towards healing in the US. I am amazed by the strong forgiving words from the families
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 09:40 AM
Jul 2015

Of Charleston, a great message we should follow. The hate has gone overboard. It ruins the haters lives and does not do anything useful.

TlalocW

(15,384 posts)
3. During this entire ordeal
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 09:41 AM
Jul 2015

I keep thinking back to this one Southern Bubba (not all Southerners are Bubbas, but this guy was a Bubba) in one of the documentaries made by Nancy Pelosi's daughter where he was literally sobbing over what then only looked like the very real possibility that Obama was going to win the 2008 election because according to him white men just couldn't have anything to themselves anymore, and I wonder if he's now basically been in a fetal position for the last several weeks.

TlalocW

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
6. They are not done crying. Got into an facebook fight with my niece - she put a pic of the
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 10:07 AM
Jul 2015

stupid flag and a day when it was supposed to be wear the flag day.

I called her on it - telling her that if she wanted to celebrate someone from the civil war she should celebrate the Union soldiers from our family. She came back with "I think they should be able to fly it as long as it is not on government grounds." Told her that was all anyone was asking. And asked if she understood what that rag meant to her aunts - both of us have black children and grandchildren. She did not answer.

The real problem is that she lives in Iowa and that flag has no history whatsoever in Iowa except as an enemy flag. Ignorance is one of the big problems.

George II

(67,782 posts)
13. To me the confederate flag represents the biggest threat to our nation's survival in our.....
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 10:43 AM
Jul 2015

.....239 year history. Early on in the civil war the existence of the United States was in serious danger.

Had the war ended the way it was going in the beginning our history would have been totally different, as would world history.

Thankfully the US turned the tide of the war and was successful.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
48. "Ignorance" is this country's middle name.
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 02:11 PM
Jul 2015

Having lived abroad in several countries, I'm always shocked to realize how ill informed Americans are about most things.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
7. Did she write that with her Southern accent or her New York accent?
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 10:27 AM
Jul 2015

Seriously, is her opinion on everything news?

George II

(67,782 posts)
40. Just some - those who want to shout down Hillary supporters or............
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 01:38 PM
Jul 2015

........force their posts down in the pecking order by organizing "DU-rec" campaigns. Believe me, it's happening!

They don't want a fair discussion, basically its "our message" or we'll denigrate "your message".

Look at the inane and childish puppy and kitten comments in this very thread.*

*Edit: Ooops, just notice you're one of those posters!!

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
26. She's running for the presidency.
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 11:44 AM
Jul 2015

So yes. Your question says more far about YOU and your loathing than it does about her or the media and I say this as someone who generally loathes the media for its exploitive practices. Instead of engaging in misdirection, why don't you just say what you mean.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
9. but, but
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 10:29 AM
Jul 2015

what about she and Bill's 2008 dog whistles during the primaries? Am I just to forgive and forget? Yeah, that's the ticket..... Loooong memory....looooong memory. Can't be trusted with my future. That's for sure.

 

Beauregard

(376 posts)
41. What's "bold" about it?
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 01:39 PM
Jul 2015

It will piss off Southern Republicans. They would never vote for her anyway. "Bold."

 

HFRN

(1,469 posts)
17. the confederate flag was always a breach of flag etiquette
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 10:52 AM
Jul 2015

(at least after 1865, anyway) flying above the capitol, as it was a defunct flag

 

Beauregard

(376 posts)
43. It was not flying above the capitol.
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 01:45 PM
Jul 2015


It's inside a little fence--the kind they put around graves--in front of a monument (I guess to a Confederate soldier) on the Capitol grounds.

No, I am not pro-Confederate or anti-black. Just pro-truth.

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
27. I rec'd this for the comments.
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 11:59 AM
Jul 2015

Seriously, has HRC taken a single controversial position on anything yet? Has she said anything on any topic of substance that isn't designed to avoid alienating anyone? I guess maybe that's a smart strategy, to try not to turn off any potential voter... I suppose that approach makes sense for a front-runner, first do no harm. But I think that's why she generates so little enthuiasm, too (apart from those who are simply excited by the prospect of a female president). But maybe all she needs to win is to not screw up, so playing it safe is the way to go. But that's why Sanders has his shot... he has the freedom to be bold because he has nothing to lose.

George II

(67,782 posts)
28. Consistently polling around 60% in most states (and nationally) is a sign of generating...
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 12:16 PM
Jul 2015

..."so little enthusiasm"?

We're talking about the potential leader of our country, not the Super Bowl.

Unfortunately too many people look at elections as sporting events. They're much more important.

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
32. High poll numbers is different from enthusiasm.
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 12:36 PM
Jul 2015

Tons of people will vote for her, no doubt. But people vote for people they're not very enthusiastic about all the time. Besides the people excited about the possibilty of a female president (who would be among those likely to be genuinely enthusiastic), she will also get lots of primary votes from people who think she has the best chance of winning the general, or feel that she's a good "safe" choice, or feel she's got the best foreign policy experience, and so forth.; and assuming she's the nominee, she'll get lots of votes in the national because people will prefer her to the Republican candidate. But that doesn't mean all those people are necessarily enthusiastic about the choice. For enthusiasm, look at the turnouts, for example...



Now as to whether enthusiasm is important (as you say, it's not a sporting event), well that's a different issue.

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
35. Not sure the point of sending me that link?
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 01:20 PM
Jul 2015

It basically says the same thing I said. Clinton leads the polls and will probably win, but not because she has a lot of enthuiasm... rather because she has the establishment behind her. Sanders has much more enthuastic support among his followers than Hillary has among hers. But of course that doesn't mean he's likely to win.

George II

(67,782 posts)
39. I did see that this morning....good article, basically saying what I think is happening...
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 01:31 PM
Jul 2015

...or what will happen.

I've likened the Bernie Surge to the following Howard Dean got back in 2004. He generated a lot of interest and a big following, but more for the "novelty" of his campaign than the bottom-line substance. When it came to actually voting for him in primaries, people wound up going for Kerry, the more sensible and level-headed candidate.

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
30. Being a bold leader
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 12:24 PM
Jul 2015

Reagan... tear down that wall, Mr Gorbachev.

Hillary .... I'm happy they are removing that flag.

Corey_Baker08

(2,157 posts)
33. I Respect & Admire Secretary Clinton For Standing Up & Speaking Out For What She Believes In...
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 12:40 PM
Jul 2015

She could have kept quiet on the issue for fear of speaking out will most certainly cost her some votes in the South not only in the Democratic Primary, but in the General Election as well.

Mainly in states like Arkansas where she absolutely has a chance of winning.

However what I Respect about Hillary, among other things is that she speaks truth to her values, even if it may cost her some votes.

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
37. That's a good point.
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 01:24 PM
Jul 2015

I assumed there was nothing at all controversial or risky in her position, but you're right, that could be my own regional bias, and it might not play so well everywhere. OTOH, I don't think any other Democratic candidate is going to be any easier on the confederate flag. I don't see the position costing her anything in the primaries, but not so sure about the general.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,235 posts)
36. Hillary's been speaking "1-on-1" with the communities affected by our nation's original sin. She..
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 01:21 PM
Jul 2015

knows the pain this relic has caused for so many of us. Contrary to assertions by others that it's just name recognition, she has actually been listening. Something her opponents haven't quite grasped yet. This is why she continues to pull 80%+ support from minorities. Nice to see it in print, but we already knew where she stood on the issue.

George II

(67,782 posts)
42. A candidate can get a much better idea of what the voters are thinking.....
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 01:41 PM
Jul 2015

...by meeting with them in small groups or 1-on-1 discussions than holding raucous 10,000 person rallies or conducting interviews for exposure.

George II

(67,782 posts)
50. Rallies are great, and effective, but not several months before the first Primary....
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 03:02 PM
Jul 2015

....there's a time and a place for them, this is not the time, yet.

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