Debbie Wasserman Schultz breaks with Obama on Cuba
Source: Politico
Florida Democrat Debbie Wasserman Schultz thinks President Barack Obama should slow down with Cuba before continuing to reopen relations between the two countries.
My view is different from President Obamas, the DNC chairwoman said in an interview with The Daily Signal published Thursday. I believe a relationship with the United States should be earned
perhaps we should make sure that some of these human rights concessions are secured prior to moving forward.
Obama announced last week that both countries will re-open embassies in their respective capitals after more than 50 years.
Wasserman Schultz said she hoped the administration could use its position to benefit the country.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/debbie-wasserman-schultz-cuba-stance-119903.html?ml=tl_3_b
Wasserman Schultz has got to wake up, smell the cafe and get out of the well funded bed she shares with right wing Cubans such as Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, Mario Diaz-Balart, Marco Rubio... Jeb Bush (who says he's Latino, lol).
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)right up there with Florida Man and Florida Women (for those who aren't familiar).
http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/590387-florida-man
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Florida Democrat also used to be Republican.
Florida Democrat violates ethics rules with Cayman Island hedge funds.
Florida Democrat leads national party to profound ass-whupping in mid-term elections
dbackjon
(6,578 posts)She's like a Manchurian Candidate
bvar22
(39,909 posts)In 2008 Debbie Wasserman Schultz refused to endorse these 3 Democrats
who had won their Primaries and had a chance to win Republican seats:
Miami-Dade Democratic Party Chair Joe Garcia
Former Hialeah Democratic Mayor Raul Martinez
Democratic businesswoman Annette Taddeo
All three had won their local Democratic Primaries, and were challenging Hard Core Republican incumbents with whom Wasserman-Schultz had become cozy.
Not only did the head of the DCCC Red to Blue Program REFUSE to endorse these Democratic challengers,
but she appeared in person at at least one (possibly more) Campaign/Fundraiser for their Republican opponents.
FL-18, FL-21, FL-25: Wasserman Schultz Wants Dem Challengers to Lose
by: James L.
Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 7:15 PM EDT
<snip>
Sensing a shift in the political climate of the traditionally solid-GOP turf of the Miami area, Democrats have lined up three strong challengers -- Miami-Dade Democratic Party chair Joe Garcia, former Hialeah Mayor Raul Martinez, and businesswoman Annette Taddeo to take on Reps. Mario Diaz-Balart, Lincoln Diaz-Balart and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, respectively.
While there is an enormous sense of excitement and optimism surrounding these candidacies, some Democratic lawmakers, including Florida Reps. Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Kendrick Meek, are all too eager to kneecap these Democratic challengers right out of the starting gate in the spirit of "comity" and "bipartisan cooperation" with their Republican colleagues:
But as three Miami Democrats look to unseat three of her South Florida Republican colleagues, Wasserman Schultz is staying on the sidelines. So is Rep. Kendrick Meek, a Miami Democrat and loyal ally to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
This time around, Wasserman Schultz and Meek say their relationships with the Republican incumbents, Reps. Lincoln Diaz-Balart and his brother Mario, and Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, leave them little choice but to sit out the three races.
"At the end of the day, we need a member who isn't going to pull any punches, who isn't going to be hesitant," Wasserman Schultz said.
Now, you'd expect this kind of bullshit from a backbencher like Alcee Hastings, but you wouldn't expect this kind of behavior from the co-chair of the DCCC's Red to Blue program, which is the position that Wasserman Schultz currently holds. Apparently, Debbie did not get Rahm's memo about doing whatever it takes to win:
The national party, enthusiastic about the three Democratic challengers, has not yet selected Red to Blue participants. But Wasserman Schultz has already told the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee that if any of the three make the cut, another Democrat should be assigned to the race.
http://www.swingstateproject.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1537
The bloggers also are furious with Rep. Kendrick B. Meek (D-Fla.), who similarly refuses to endorse the Democratic challengers to the three Cuban American Republicans.
They are calling for Wasserman Schultz to step down from her leadership role at the DCCC. And they're not letting up, even after one Florida liberal blogger reported that the congresswoman seemed "frustrated" by the blogs and had asked to "please help get them off my back."
This prompted even harsher reaction from perhaps the most influential of the progressive political bloggers, Markos Moulitsas, a.k.a. Kos, founder of Daily Kos, who wrote on his blog Wednesday: "On so many fronts, the Republicans are standing in the way of progress, on Iraq, SCHIP, health care, fiscal responsibility, corruption, civil liberties, and so on. Those three south Florida Republicans are part of that problem. And she's (Wasserman-Schultz) going to be 'frustrated' that people demand she do her job?"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/19/AR2008031903410_3.html
Here are Kos comments on the Wasserman-Schultz betrayal of the Democratic Party:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/03/20/480511/-DCCC-Says-Uproar-Over-DWS-Recusal-Much-Ado-About-Nothing
A lot of time has passed since 2008, but I don't take these kinds of betrayals lightly.
bvar22
Cursed with a memory
With "partners" like this, we don't need Republicans!
Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)that DWS's Republican friends are against open relations with Cuba.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)>>A lot of time has passed since 2008, but I don't take these kinds of betrayals lightly.
Agree, this was major, major and shouldn't be forgotten.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)It's been since, like, 1961. Slow down? Oy vey!
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Or "oye" vey as Ileana Ros would say it Cuban style.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)47of74
(18,470 posts)FFS.
I suppose every teabagger in existence now will be gloating over this.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Cha
(297,297 posts)on this.
Beauregard
(376 posts)That's why.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)I don't think her district is heavily Cuban-American. She's probably doing it in support of her GOP friends, Balart and Ross-Illien.
Beauregard
(376 posts)Florida 20th District Profile Race and ethnicity
District
U.S.
White 57.6%
65.9%
Black 9.8%
12.1%
Hispanic 27.8%
15.1%
Asian 2.8%
4.3%
Native American 0.2%
0.7%
http://elections.nytimes.com/2010/house/florida/20
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Non-Cuban Hispanics support ending the embargo, vote solidly Democratic. Cubans are more difficult to determine. 1st generation immigrants are highly anti-Castro and vote solidly republican. Each generation removed from immigration votes increasingly Democratic and is less anti-Castro. 3Rd/4th generation Cuban-Americans hold political views like most non-Cuban Hispanics. DWS's district is not heavily Cuban-American, and the %Hispanic demographic is not unlike Tampa, Orlando, and the other large cities. She could have easily supported Obama with little voter backlash...she's supporting her GOP friends.
Beauregard
(376 posts)The stats don't break it down as to what kind of Hispanics live in her district. The point is that her main constituency consists of transplanted white New Yorkers, mostly Jews, who do not want more Hispanics in their neighborhood.
These facts remain, and you have not refuted them.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Most Hispanics in Miami-Dade are Cuban, that's to the south of DWS district. Overall in Florida, Cubans are only a plurality. Many from Colombia, PR,Dominican Republic, Central America...all over. Even Spain. Cuban Americans have different voting patterns than other Hispanics.
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Cubans are 5% of population, all Hispanics are 22.5% of population. IDK % of PR, but if same as Cuban then combined they're still less than half of all Hispanics. Unless peep live here, they unaware of all the Colombians, Dominicans, Mexicans, Nicaraguans, and more that live here. My current and ex gfs are Colombian. I have close friends from Panama, Chile, Venezuela, PR, and Spain.
TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)And someone would challenge her. I'm not sure she's ever been challenged .As you see the break down she has no Cubans in her district that's why she can go on a rant about Cuba
Beauregard
(376 posts)There is nothing in the NYT source I quoted that even mentions "Cubans." But the district is 28% Hispanic, which, in Florida, means mostly Cuban.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)There's more non-Cuban Hispanics in Florida than Cuban Hispanics. Florida is the gateway to the Carribean. Cuba is only one small country in Carribean. We have Hispanics from all over, including Spain.
Beauregard
(376 posts)Debbie's constituents, who are mainly retired white people from New York, do not want more Hispanics in the 23rd district, which is currently 28% Hispanic. Cubans are Hispanics. Therefore, her constituents do not want more Cubans in her district.
Any other quibbles?
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)It appears you've never even visited Florida, outside of Disney World. I've lived here for 50 years.
Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #50)
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bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)In her district
salib
(2,116 posts)This is a plutocracy. All she needs is her third way support.
Man of Distinction
(109 posts)Who needs Democrats when you got Republicans for friends?
Shame on W-S.
Idiot of the same degree as McAuliffe when he was running the DNC before Dean saved it, and was turned over to W-S who proceeded to act like McAuliffe.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)....that aren't Palestinian.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Their other favorite issue is Israel of course. Ileana is all over that one supporting Debbie.
Liberalagogo
(1,770 posts)ZERO influence on this, isn't it, Debbie?
heaven05
(18,124 posts)DWB, since the election has been quiet in her loyalty and backing toward our present Democratic POTUS. May we get this true DINO out of a position of power in the Democratic Party 'elite' establishment and get someone in that will benefit, us, the powerless of the Democratic Party. Too bad she can't come up for an up or down vote.
djean111
(14,255 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)"The Democratic National Committee (DNC) is the principal organization governing the United States Democratic Party on a day-to-day basis."
http://www.democrats.org/person/debbie-wasserman-schultz
djean111
(14,255 posts)Democrats torn between party, GOP friends
But as three Miami Democrats look to unseat three of her South Florida Republican colleagues, Wasserman Schultz is staying on the sidelines. So is Rep. Kendrick Meek, a Miami Democrat and loyal ally to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
........
This time around, Wasserman Schultz and Meek say their relationships with the Republican incumbents, Reps. Lincoln Diaz-Balart and his brother Mario, and Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, leave them little choice but to sit out the three races.
......
But Wasserman Schultz and Meek say their ties to the three Republicans are personal as well as professional: Both served in the state Legislature with Mario Diaz-Balart and say they work in concert with all three on South Florida issues.
Wasserman Schultz has also played a leading role in persuading the new Democratic majority to sustain the economic embargo against Cuba and has established close ties to the staunchly pro-embargo U.S.-Cuba Democracy political action committee, which has contributed thousands to Wasserman Schultz and Meek's campaigns.
I don't actually consider any of the New Democrat Coalition to be real Democrats, and will be voting accordingly. Here in Florida. Where I do keep up.
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)John Russell vs Ginnie Brown-Waite.
She said Ginny was her good friend, and had a spine and nerves of steel.
Beauregard
(376 posts)And you know it.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Or - maybe the Democratic Party has slid so far to the right that I am not a Democrat any more. There's that. But my days of voting blindly are over.
still_one
(92,217 posts)to being a blue state anymore. At the minimum it is purple. It is referred to as a swing state, but with Scott winning another term, I am not so sure, I am not sure about that.
New Jersey for example is a solid Blue state, however, not only did Christie win, but so-called Democrats endorsed him.
Something doesn't sync
Howard Dean pushed his 50 state strategy, and it could be argued it was that strategy that gave us victory in 2008, but the problem with that strategy is that it accept different parts of the country have different views. Some more left, some more right, and some middle of the road
Is there a minimum set of principles that we should not compromise on as a party, and I would personally say yes
lark
(23,105 posts)She makes me sick. She's just another corporatist disguised as a Democrat.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)so called Democratic Party. Mr.Obama best watch his back with this Dino and the likes of a Chuckie Schumer,running the Democratic Party. Just got to love how smug and conceited Politicians pull their own rugs out from under themselves. DWS and other third wayers,cost us the Senate and the House. But,what the hay,they got the money. Notice how team Sanders is all over the Stupid's lately. So much for those so called well oiled campaigns,Bernies team really pays attention to watch is happening both in the press and on the Internets.
Rocky888
(297 posts)She is a threat to our party. I cannot think of one thing she has done to deserve the title of chairwoman, unless the word republican precedes chairwoman.
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)Paladin
(28,264 posts)None whatsoever.
mountain grammy
(26,623 posts)she really IS a Republican.
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)Nice going Obama your own pick for DNC Chair person turns on you.I wish a real progressive would run against ass
craigmatic
(4,510 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)cosmicone
(11,014 posts)I'll keep kissing Miami Bautista Cuban ass in the hopes that a hundred years from now, some of them might vote democratic.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Beauregard
(376 posts)That's why she is carrying out the will of her constituents--mainly white retired people from NYC.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)malthaussen
(17,202 posts)So her statement isn't a total loss.
-- Mal
Historic NY
(37,450 posts)we have normalized relations with China a communist country, Russia the fmr Soviet Union bloc and Vietnam our former communist foe. Since Feb 3, 1962 we haven't had normal relations with Cuba which sits 90 miles from our shores.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts).. some of that is recycled US taxpayer money via USAID and the like. Yuk.
CTBlueboy
(154 posts)With Dems like DWS who needs republicans
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)"No fix for STUPID!!!"
Doesn't she have a retirement date yet?
Qutzupalotl
(14,317 posts)(silver lining)
former9thward
(32,020 posts)He appointed her.
Daniel537
(1,560 posts)How can he call on congress to end the embargo on Cuba when the chair of his own Party opposes it? Rubio gets rightfully mocked yesterday for his crazy views on Cuba, then the DNC chair steps up the next day to support him? Insanity. Wasserman Schultz has always been in the gusano camp from day one. Good luck working with congress on this, Mr. President.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)If Karl Rove had tried to have someone infiltrate the party and ruin it from within, they could not have found a better person than you. What is said is that you are not some robot programmed by the GOP, no, you are just one more example of the Blue Dog Democrats that will simply get fed by denying the rest of the Democrats any access to the food, then expect us to laud you for letting us get a crumb, treating that crumb is if it was a seven course meal. I may hate the GOP, but at least there are some in there that, however stupid and evil they are, really think they are acting on principles, you, however, are willing to ride the waves when Obama does something popular (usually over the objections of your fellow Blue Dogs) and try to take some, if not all of the credit. What when he does something that actually most of us in the NATION want (as opposed to what your "friends" in Little Havana want) then you kneecap and backstab. Of course, this might be forgiven if you were actually competent at your job, but you have lost two national mid terms and a gubernatorial race, all because you tried to make damned sure whoever was allowed to run was someone that would not upset your wallet.
Hey Hillary, I know this girl acts like your friend, but you need to make sure this woman;s days are numbered. Yeah Obama can do it, but according to articles like this:
http://dailycaller.com/2015/02/23/debbie-wasserman-schultz-sexist-semitic-obama/
She knew she could play the race and sex card, and would do it shamelessly. Let her try that with you. Of course, part of the reason I plan to vote for Bernie in the primary is because I know you will not dare swat at Debbie, lest YOU get tarred with that same strategy. The sexist part would not stick, but she would make damned sure a lot of your donors might take their money elsewhere, especially since many of them only like you because you are the best hope of "obliterating Iran."
Arkana
(24,347 posts)The embargo needs to end. The Soviet Union is gone and Cuba is a shadow of its former self. You want to kill communism in that country? Give them a good dose of American capitalism.
And as for human rights violations, don't fucking make me laugh. Half the nations in the Middle East we call "allies" are bigger human rights abusers.
TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)roody
(10,849 posts)I'll be changing for Bernie though.
fbc
(1,668 posts)Debbie Wasserman Schultz is the worst
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)dembotoz
(16,808 posts)there are plenty of dems who have been way less loyal to obama than she
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)in spite of her alliances with the right wing Cuban Americans.
She could have worded it in such a way that she solved this dilemma but chose to stick with her pals.
Daniel537
(1,560 posts)These alliances are just too profitable to break. The President should shame these assholes as the obstructionists they are.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)since most Florida Latinos (not Cubans) are very very liberal on the Cuban issue.
In fact that's the main reason Obama went for it - according to a panel I saw at FIU
aceofblades
(73 posts)What an unpleasant surprise
[link:http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2008/03/debbie-dub-ya.html|
onenote
(42,714 posts)Alan Grayson, who most here wouldn't call a DINO, is another elected Democrat in Florida who has suggested the President is moving too fast (I disagree, by the way, but I I'm not surprised that elected pols in Florida would be more cautious).
https://www.google.com/search?q=grayson+cuba&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&gws_rd=ssl
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)But in Greyson's case it really reads as total bs because he's not middle of the road.
That was an error for his brand but a plus for his pocketbook.
Daniel537
(1,560 posts)David Jolly, a GOPer from Clearwater, and Bill Nelson support some easing of sanctions, but they're not quite with Obama. DWS will never back down from her thuggish view on Cuba, but Alan Grayson, he's not going to get my vote if he doesn't rectify on this issue.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)The only other possible reason is stupidity and I think he's pretty smart, though not so shrewd. Times have changed even the right wing friends of Jeb are paving a path for him to soften on Cuba.
There was an editorial in the Herald to this end lately.
Castor is great, kudos to her she deserves the fruits of her bravery and smarts.
djean111
(14,255 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)in Florida where most Latinos are very, very liberal on the issue and others know they can make $$
still_one
(92,217 posts)think it is way past due that we have relations with Cuba. We have relations with China and Russia, it makes no sense not to include Cuba
Should an elected person do what people in her district want her to do, or should that person instead do what they think is best?
We are a representative form of government, and people have expectations what their elected officials will do
I would think the views in Florida would not be the same as the rest of the country on this. It would be interesting for folks in Florida to weigh in on this,, especially in the people she represents
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)Cuban lives will immediately benefit and it will create jobs for us. If some people need to be reassured, I'm sure the administration can help Wasserman Schultz with that.
Cha
(297,297 posts)with Cuba is now.. not "slow down".
Mahalo flamingdem
LeftOfWest
(482 posts)far far away.