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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 05:42 PM Jul 2015

Mexico Bound? Ford Moving Two Key Models Out Of Michigan

Source: USA Today

Alisa Priddle and Brent Snavely, Detroit Free Press 5:29 p.m. EDT July 9, 2015

DETROIT -- Ford confirmed Thursday that it will move production of the next-generation Ford Focus and Ford C-Max from its Michigan Assembly Plant in Wayne. Mich.,with union officials saying they were told it's headed to Mexico in 2018.

The company's decision sets a potentially combative tone just days before contract talks are scheduled to begin. The UAW formally opens negotiations with GM on Monday, Fiat Chrysler Automobiles on Tuesday and Ford the following week.

The move also comes as a host of automakers, including Ford, are building new plants in Mexico instead of the U.S. The move raises questions about which products could replace the Focus -- a car that symbolized Ford's transformation in 2011 from a company dependent on truck sales to one aimed at profitably building better, and often smaller, passenger cars.

Ford insists the Michigan plant, which employs 4,000, will not close. But spokeswoman Kristina Adamski would not provide details of any new products being planned for the plant. The company makes the Focus, Focus ST, Focus Electric, C-Max hybrid and C-Max Energi plug-in hybrid at the plant.

"We will move production of the next-generation Ford Focus and C-Max, which currently are built at Michigan Assembly Plant, beginning in 2018," the company said in a statement. "We actively are pursuing future vehicle alternatives to produce at Michigan Assembly and will discuss this issue with UAW leadership as part of the upcoming negotiations."

Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2015/07/09/ford-focus-cmax-mexico/29921307/



Hey repukes in Lansing, that "Right to work" bullshit is working out just swell, eh?
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Mexico Bound? Ford Moving Two Key Models Out Of Michigan (Original Post) Purveyor Jul 2015 OP
Well I wont be buying another ford focus then I guess. nt cstanleytech Jul 2015 #1
the ford fuckus nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #2
Excellent underpants Jul 2015 #5
Wonder what sorta tarriffs Plucketeer Jul 2015 #3
More jobs lost to free trade. GeorgeGist Jul 2015 #4
Mexico, has played it smart in recent years, signing every trade agreement they could get. Hoyt Jul 2015 #6
Jobs leave America and Hoyt cheers. Just fucking sad. Scuba Jul 2015 #7
No, I pointed out how opposition to trade doesn't work, hoping you guys will wise up Hoyt Jul 2015 #8
Maybe thing would be better... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #10
Low wages and a weak government are what attract multi-nationals to Mexico daleo Jul 2015 #13
12 hour shifts, no chairs to sit down, strip searches, no air conditioning, one or two bathroom whereisjustice Jul 2015 #15
Oh no, Audi is paying like $8/hour to folks who made a few dollars a day before. Hoyt Jul 2015 #17
Great. Why don't you move down there? eom brentspeak Jul 2015 #19
You don't like Mexicans, do you? Hoyt Jul 2015 #20
I think the problem here is that you don't brentspeak Jul 2015 #21
Fuck that. I've have walked the floor of factories in Mexico and China... whereisjustice Jul 2015 #25
Would be interested to know why you were there. Do you think their plight will be better without Hoyt Jul 2015 #32
Sounds like you think we should lower Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #30
No, maybe you spent too much time with your gunz yesterday. Mexico's wages with companies like Audi Hoyt Jul 2015 #33
not when we lose those jobs here Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #35
Oh, "America First, the heck with everyone else" attitude. Hoyt Jul 2015 #36
not the heck with them Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #37
Well, then, you should be a supporter of the TPP. It does all those things. I suspect that Hoyt Jul 2015 #39
The problem isn't opposing trade agreements the problem is that the cstanleytech Jul 2015 #16
Like we haven't been pretty cruddy to Mexicans. Hoyt Jul 2015 #22
But he adds a bit of unintentional humor brentspeak Jul 2015 #24
Oh yes Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #31
"free trade" equals low wages and benefits, and corporatists are ok with that msongs Jul 2015 #9
uh oh Liberal_in_LA Jul 2015 #11
The empty Ford plants will become Pay Day Loans branches olddots Jul 2015 #12
This is why Wall Street wants Clinton to win, she'll send more jobs and money to Mexico and Asia whereisjustice Jul 2015 #14
I'm on my 2nd Focus. Guess it'll be my last. CharlotteVale Jul 2015 #18
thank goodness for nafta restorefreedom Jul 2015 #23
How about these WORDS...."EQUAL TARIFFS TO MAKE THE PLAYING FIELD LEVEL" Stuart G Jul 2015 #26
When people say "Buy American!" tabasco Jul 2015 #27
I was told this today...The car with the most American made parts today..is Toyota.. Stuart G Jul 2015 #28
Toyotas are put together in Kentucky tabasco Jul 2015 #29
They have plants in KY, TX, AL, MS, WV, and IN Recursion Jul 2015 #41
A shame too! I bought my C-max in 2013, and it's one of the best cars I've had. And a stcker still.. dmosh42 Jul 2015 #34
Boycott Ford. The only thing they understand is money. Vinca Jul 2015 #38
I hate new cars aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2015 #40
I'm an AMC man too. ileus Jul 2015 #42
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
6. Mexico, has played it smart in recent years, signing every trade agreement they could get.
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 06:39 PM
Jul 2015

Audi just decided to build a plant there, rather than here, primarily because Mexico has better trade agreements than we do. And, no, I won't deny wages have something to do with it, but apparently the trade agreements were quite important.

"Mexico’s abundance of international free-trade agreements – more than 40 – compared with the United States’ 20 strengthened the location’s appeal, Rupert Stadler, chairman of the board of management of Audi AG, told the newspaper.

The lack of a duty on Q5s shipped abroad will shave several thousand dollars off the price of that vehicle compared with one originating in the United States. Audi executives showed that they believed they could ensure a plant in San Jose Chiapa would achieve the brand’s signature levels of product quality, which amounted to an endorsement of Mexican capabilities, unprecedented by any luxury auto maker.

http://www.audiusa.com/newsroom/news/company-articles/2015/03/audi-s-decision-to-build-q5s-in-mexico-shows-that-country-s-appe

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
8. No, I pointed out how opposition to trade doesn't work, hoping you guys will wise up
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 07:25 PM
Jul 2015

before it's too late.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
10. Maybe thing would be better...
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 08:57 PM
Jul 2015

if Americans would just agree to work for the same wages as people in Mexico and Malaysia. Damn conceited American workers.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
13. Low wages and a weak government are what attract multi-nationals to Mexico
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 11:07 PM
Jul 2015

If criminal cartels that murder people by the tens of thousands are part of the deal, well that doesn't faze international capitalism. Business is business.

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
15. 12 hour shifts, no chairs to sit down, strip searches, no air conditioning, one or two bathroom
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 12:09 AM
Jul 2015

breaks and about $7 a day. Plus, you get docked pay for the time you spend in line waiting to get searched.

Don't worry, the US is getting there too. Just not as fast as you'd like.

Such a brave stance. Just you and a few a few billion dollars of corporate lobbying money paying Congress and the White House to fuck over working families.

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
21. I think the problem here is that you don't
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:50 PM
Jul 2015

You apparently don't want to live among them.

We already know you despise Americans.

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
25. Fuck that. I've have walked the floor of factories in Mexico and China...
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 12:33 PM
Jul 2015

workers are treated like virtual slaves. The VAST number of jobs in Asia and Mexico are going to slow wage workers without rights - they are abused and many of them have nothing but contempt and hatred for arrogant Americans who go into these shops and treat them like shit claiming to be the great white hope.

The vast majority, millions of workers in China and India, are earning less than $7 a day for 12 to 18 hour shifts and they live in poverty without clean water or regular electircity.

And in India and China, US corporations are paying people in sweatshops to spam web sites with pro-TPP, pro-corporate, pro-right wing comments similar to yours.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
32. Would be interested to know why you were there. Do you think their plight will be better without
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 01:09 PM
Jul 2015

jobs that pay more than scratching out a living in dirt? The TPP takes steps to improve the situation. I feel sure, Audi and other big car manufacturers are not doing as you say. I bet with Audi, there is a big, long line applying for those jobs. China will only get better if they are forced to improve by losing jobs to other Asian countries.

Who is paying you to spam anti-TPP stuff?

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
30. Sounds like you think we should lower
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 01:04 PM
Jul 2015

Our pay to that super high rate to complete. I think not. That is what free trade and tariff lowering has gotten us.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
33. No, maybe you spent too much time with your gunz yesterday. Mexico's wages with companies like Audi
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 01:12 PM
Jul 2015

are improving. $8/hour is a huge improvement. You don't get to higher wages without investment in a country. Apparently, Mexico realizes that. I guess you'd feel better if Mexico had no opportunities such as Audi, Ford, Martin Guitars, etc.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
35. not when we lose those jobs here
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 01:27 PM
Jul 2015

it seems you are not very concerned. Whats with the guns insult?

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
37. not the heck with them
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 01:38 PM
Jul 2015

but yes, I am guilty of wanting Americans to have a fair and living wage. I do not like having our workers having to compete in these trade agreements with workers that make very little, have no labor protections and weak to no environmental laws. Sounds to me you do not like American workers, that is disappointing to say the least.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
39. Well, then, you should be a supporter of the TPP. It does all those things. I suspect that
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 02:11 PM
Jul 2015

if the TPP increased wages, and environmental protections, you'd still be against it.

I like American workers just fine, being one, but I know that ignoring the world economy will not work in the long-run. Further, I think we've taken more than our fair share of the world's wealth and resources -- and in Mexico's case, literally stole their best land.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
16. The problem isn't opposing trade agreements the problem is that the
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 02:02 PM
Jul 2015

majority of trade agreements have essentially ended up being pretty shitty for most of us here in the US.

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
24. But he adds a bit of unintentional humor
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:53 PM
Jul 2015

By quoting an Audi public relations release.

The "will shave thousands of dollars off the price of that vehicle" quote by Audi's CEO is good for a daily belly laugh.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
31. Oh yes
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 01:05 PM
Jul 2015

I am sure it will be passed along. Wonder if those Mexican line workers can afford to buy that car?

msongs

(67,413 posts)
9. "free trade" equals low wages and benefits, and corporatists are ok with that
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 08:46 PM
Jul 2015

because profits are the only thing with value, people being totally expendable and all

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
14. This is why Wall Street wants Clinton to win, she'll send more jobs and money to Mexico and Asia
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 12:05 AM
Jul 2015

because those Governments don't give a shit if their population lives and dies as slaves to support the lifestyles of the CEO class.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
23. thank goodness for nafta
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 11:52 PM
Jul 2015

and right to work laws.

oh wait a sec, wrong site......

edit...seriously, this sux and why we need bernie

Stuart G

(38,434 posts)
26. How about these WORDS...."EQUAL TARIFFS TO MAKE THE PLAYING FIELD LEVEL"
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 12:44 PM
Jul 2015

What do you think??? ....who is in favor of equal and fair tariffs to level the playing field?...Then costs would be very close to the same... If tariffs were set to level the playing field, then jobs would come back..It wouldn't pay to move them somewhere else..

What do you think????

Stuart G

(38,434 posts)
28. I was told this today...The car with the most American made parts today..is Toyota..
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 01:00 PM
Jul 2015

I do not know if that is true...but who knows?? I sure don't

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
41. They have plants in KY, TX, AL, MS, WV, and IN
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 04:05 AM
Jul 2015

That's 1500 jobs in MS, 1200 in AL, 10,000 in KY and 9,000 in TX.

dmosh42

(2,217 posts)
34. A shame too! I bought my C-max in 2013, and it's one of the best cars I've had. And a stcker still..
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 01:20 PM
Jul 2015

shows made in Flint, Mi. Solid ride for a small car, nice zip for a hybrid and quite economical. I think it's all about union busting and big bonuses for the scumbags who run the corporation.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
40. I hate new cars
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 02:37 PM
Jul 2015

I despise the "cab forward" design. I hate the modern polyurethane paint on cars that make them all look like they're made of plastic. I hate the fact all cars slant forward now from rear to front to make them artificially look like they're moving even when stopped. I hate the gigantic plastic bumpers on front and rear. I hate the plastic door handles instead of chrome. I hate the fact nearly every car has bucket seats now. I hate the gigantic plastic consoles and dashboards that take up way too much space. You can't move from the passenger's seat to the driver's seat inside a car anymore. I hate the tiny rear windows on modern cars; with the oversized headrests now, You can't see out the back for backing up. And I especially hate the sameness of the designs. Cars all look like eggs or electric shavers now and you can't see a single straight line in the design and I can't tell a Ford from a Mercedes, from a Japanese piece of junk.

Even if I liked modern cars, I wouldn't buy a new car because most of the manufacturers are treating their workers badly. And I hate all the mergers and acquisitions of car companies. In the old days, manufacturers cared more about the tradition and integrity of their brands whereas today they are just MBA assholes who only care about their stockholders.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
42. I'm an AMC man too.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 07:08 AM
Jul 2015

But I ride a jellybean car to work every day because an AMX just isn't economically feasible.

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