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riversedge

(70,238 posts)
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 11:08 PM Jul 2015

Hillary Clinton To Present 'Economic Vision'

Source: Bloomberg.com




Jul 9, 2015 5:14 PM CDT
Democratic front-runner to speak Monday at the New York City's New School.

Jennifer Epstein


Hillary Clinton will lay out her economic agenda in a major speech Monday that will set the tone for more detailed policy announcements this summer and much of her messaging through the rest of her presidential campaign.

The Democratic front-runner's choice of venue may be telling: She'll be delivering her address in Manhattan's Greenwich Village neighborhood at The New School, a university whose economics department takes a decidedly leftist tilt. Her campaign announced the speech with a press release promising that Clinton would be offering an "economic vision" and a "framework for an economy that grows faster, fairer and more sustainably."

The speech comes as several of Clinton's Democratic rivals are staking out emphatic positions against major financial interests. Former Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley on Thursday issued a white paper that made detailed policy recommendations aimed at cracking down on Wall Street. Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont has made confrontation with the "billionaire class" his campaign hallmark.

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And despite having been a beneficiary its campaign donations in the past, Clinton also has focused some of her fire on Wall Street, especially when it comes to executive pay and capital gains tax rates. The nation’s top 25 hedge fund managers "make more than all of Americans' kindergarten teachers combined and often paying a lower tax rate,” she often says on the campaign trail. ................

Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-07-09/hillary-clinton-to-present-economic-vision-

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Hillary Clinton To Present 'Economic Vision' (Original Post) riversedge Jul 2015 OP
More vague "we have to do better" stuff, no doubt MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #1
Those sour grapes go straight to your typed comments. riversedge Jul 2015 #3
I note that you don't disagree, nor MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #4
She has not given her speech yet so riversedge Jul 2015 #22
One doughnut to a dozen Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #27
I bet that is right Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #28
I guess it was impossible to wait until she spoke... brooklynite Jul 2015 #11
Not impossible, but probably not necessary either Red Oak Jul 2015 #17
I'm sure... quickesst Jul 2015 #31
Yes, and I'm one of them. Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #32
That's fine quickesst Jul 2015 #36
Then you need to consider doing it in a way Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #37
Well quickesst Jul 2015 #39
Allow me to recap: Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #40
If you say so... quickesst Jul 2015 #41
Exactly. Just like the TPP. hughee99 Jul 2015 #45
OK. nt bemildred Jul 2015 #2
Good. She needs some feel-good sound bites for her $2.5billion campaign. delrem Jul 2015 #5
$2.5 billion! Larry Engels Jul 2015 #35
SUMMARY OF HER ECONOMIC VISION: The rich should get more and fuck everybody else. Hoppy Jul 2015 #6
Just guessing? Or did Hill's campaign provide you with oasis Jul 2015 #9
That's why she voted against the Bush tax cuts for the 1%, right? brooklynite Jul 2015 #12
Only two Senate Democrats voted against them. nt MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #13
Why wasn't she the third? brooklynite Jul 2015 #14
Not enough cover when running for President. MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #16
Oh please! hrmjustin Jul 2015 #26
Did she show leadership in opposing these tax cuts? Red Oak Jul 2015 #15
"What Hillary Clinton's Voting Record Reveals About Her Tax Plan" PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #29
I predict vapid, jejune, hackneyed platitudes tularetom Jul 2015 #7
Aw shit. No fair. Someone provided you with an advance copy of her address. Hoppy Jul 2015 #10
+1 CharlotteVale Jul 2015 #44
I'll be watching to see if she addresses the TPP Red Oak Jul 2015 #8
I'm with you Populist_Prole Jul 2015 #19
well put restorefreedom Jul 2015 #43
She's going to sound very populist.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #18
I look forward to hearing what she has to say. jalan48 Jul 2015 #20
thanks riversedge! Cha Jul 2015 #21
I am looking forward to hear riversedge Jul 2015 #23
I'm looking forward to hearing Her comments also.. Oldenuff Jul 2015 #24
She's already outlined her economic vision on her website... PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #25
Not one word on Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #30
Will She Wear a Bright Designer Suit with Expensive Jewelry? McKim Jul 2015 #33
The good news JonLP24 Jul 2015 #34
Her economic vision: rule by the rich. Beauregard Jul 2015 #38
i want to hear specifics and hard numbers restorefreedom Jul 2015 #42
those are great questions...well thought out... CTyankee Jul 2015 #46
thx...i didn.t catch the speech restorefreedom Jul 2015 #47
me, too, when I see the speech! Let us know what you think... CTyankee Jul 2015 #48
here ya go.... restorefreedom Jul 2015 #49
 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
1. More vague "we have to do better" stuff, no doubt
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 11:14 PM
Jul 2015

Accompanied by million of dollars of "See! The bold new Hillary." PR.

LOL!

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
4. I note that you don't disagree, nor
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 11:25 PM
Jul 2015

present any evidence that Hillary is other than vague; the only tool you turn to is a personal attack.

riversedge

(70,238 posts)
22. She has not given her speech yet so
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 02:06 AM
Jul 2015

why would I have any evidence of vagueness at this point. Yet you are more than willing to be critical of her-- for an article that is just an announcement of her upcoming speech. Enough said!

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
27. One doughnut to a dozen
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 08:59 AM
Jul 2015

that the entire speech will be long on nice sounding generalities and absent specific policies. She can't upset her Wall Street funders.

brooklynite

(94,581 posts)
11. I guess it was impossible to wait until she spoke...
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 12:17 AM
Jul 2015

...and THEN comment on what she did or didn't say.

Red Oak

(697 posts)
17. Not impossible, but probably not necessary either
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 12:38 AM
Jul 2015

I'll be glad if she proves me wrong.

She isn't an unknown and it is so hard for the leopard to change its spots.

It would be a fun exercise for us to write the speech on DU, right now, and see how close we get!

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
31. I'm sure...
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 09:42 AM
Jul 2015

...There are many who will admire your keen powers of precogniton, and will cheer on the condemnation before the fact.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
32. Yes, and I'm one of them.
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:21 AM
Jul 2015

Manny is a well-loved person by those who understand the difference between policy proposals and vague talking points written by a half-dozen speech writers after conducting several focus groups to determine how she will "lead."

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
36. That's fine
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 12:15 PM
Jul 2015

I prefer to form my own opinion after the fact, and not let someone else do it based on what they think a person might say. The thread is about a speech she has yet to give.
"I'm one of them". See, my post was spot on, and that your friend is well loved has zero meaning to me. Thanks for your reply.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
37. Then you need to consider doing it in a way
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 12:18 PM
Jul 2015

that is not disrespectful to a valuable, long-time, well-respected DU member.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
39. Well
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 01:55 PM
Jul 2015

If you believe it was that disrespectful, and if you believe you can speak on his behalf, there is always the alert tab. Perhaps you'll get lucky and end up with a majority of the right people on the jury. I've been curious ever since 2004 about the experience of a hide anyway. Or you could grow some thicker than tissue skin. Either way.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
40. Allow me to recap:
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 01:59 PM
Jul 2015

This was your original statement: "There are many who will admire your keen powers of precognition . . ." As one who is one of Manny's admirers, I was answering for myself, so, fail.

But keep digging, it's getting near lunchtime and I have a hankering for pizza.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
45. Exactly. Just like the TPP.
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 05:52 PM
Jul 2015

"If it's good for America, I'll support it, and if it's not, I'll oppose it."

 

Larry Engels

(387 posts)
35. $2.5 billion!
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:37 AM
Jul 2015

Now who would pay $2.5 billion to elect her? Who has $2.5 billion? So far, 90% of her contributions come from 10% of her donors. So we already know what her economic policies are going to be, now don't we? Whatever will benefit that 10%, or more accurately, 10% of that 10%. Guess who that is.

Red Oak

(697 posts)
15. Did she show leadership in opposing these tax cuts?
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 12:32 AM
Jul 2015

Did she raise a stink? Did she persuade others to vote no? Did she make it a big issue? Did she lead?

Or did she vote "against" the tax cuts using the classic politician's ploy of first making sure they would pass, then voting against them for show? The old I was for them before I was against them routine.

Seeing her donor list, my opinion is that it was all show.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
7. I predict vapid, jejune, hackneyed platitudes
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 11:37 PM
Jul 2015

With no specific proposals that she can be pinned down on in case Wall Street has a problem with any of it.

And nothing that could possibly come back to bite her in the ass in the event she is nominated and has to turn around and trash "the left" yet again.

Red Oak

(697 posts)
8. I'll be watching to see if she addresses the TPP
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 11:40 PM
Jul 2015

Given her "follow Pelosi" (and cave?) comments, I'll be interested to see what she has to say about the TPP. Will she bring it up? Will she address why she was almost mute on the subject?

My expectations are for a bunch of empty "middle class", "working Americans" platitudes with no detail. It's what she does. We've seen this play over and over ad nauseum. She simply oozes politician speak.

My opinion is that she rarely, if ever, makes the hard choices and, if she does make a choice, they are most often the wrong choices.

Feel free to correct me on the hard choices she personally took the national lead on. Then explain her IWR vote to me.

I'll be glad to listen.

Change my perspective.

It would have been a pleasure to vote in the first female President. Too bad Sen. Warren chose not to run.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
19. I'm with you
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 12:44 AM
Jul 2015

"My expectations are for a bunch of empty "middle class", "working Americans" platitudes with no detail. It's what she does. We've seen this play over and over ad nauseum. She simply oozes politician speak."

I hope I'm wrong, but the last two decades shown that to be the case.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
43. well put
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 04:53 PM
Jul 2015

i also am curious as to what she say re tpp. think we are gonna have to wait for the debates. unless debbie w-s has the questioner conveniently leave that off the list......

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
30. Not one word on
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 09:11 AM
Jul 2015

Raising taxes on the wealthy and investment tax rates. Nothing about new Wall Street regulations lots of flowering talk with few actual proposals.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
33. Will She Wear a Bright Designer Suit with Expensive Jewelry?
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:31 AM
Jul 2015

Will she keep dressing like she is running the fundraising gala for the Metropolitan Museum of Art and dare to wear that stuff at The New School? There are so many comments here about anticipating her behavior. I guess it is unfair, but many here have seen her behavior over the years and are not expecting anything new and authentic. I will watch the speech but am loathe to believe anything she says after that Iraq War vote and her failure to divorce Bill, I was done long ago.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
34. The good news
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 10:36 AM
Jul 2015

is the banks and investment services are shifting the money to the GOP side, health insurers as well. So whoever is the Democratic nominee will have more of an incentive to serve the people with all the business interests going to the other side though not sure why Hospitals & nursing homes are too, probably administrators though I don't see how they help. If I understand that sector has seen an increase in jobs?

Hope she is serious though, we need to stop the bullying of countries to accept disaster capitalism. We need to put people first across the world.

On edit -- link to this bit of good news "Industry Money Shifts to Republicans" - http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/06/21/us/politics/donors-shift-chart.html?_r=0

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
42. i want to hear specifics and hard numbers
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 05:16 PM
Jul 2015

what percentages should the different brackets pay in taxes?

what does she want the minimum wage to be?

how big (as in dollars of assets) is too big for a bank before it needs to be broken up?

tpp: yes or no?

what does she think is a fair ratio of ceo pay to worker pay?

will she ever support publicly funded elections?

these are all very specific questions with very simple and short answers. Bernie has already gone on the record on all of them. I want to know exactly where Hillary stands on all these questions and more.

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