Ohio Judge Will Perform All Marriages After Colleague Refused Gay Couple
Source: ASSOCIATED PRESS
TOLEDO, Ohio (AP) After a municipal court judge in Toledo refused to perform a same-sex wedding this week, the presiding judge says she will now perform all marriages in her courtroom.
Toledo Municipal Judge Michelle Wagner says she doesn't want to see a same-sex couple go before a judge who is not interested in conducting the ceremony. She said it is her privilege to perform those weddings.
Her decision came after her colleague, Municipal Judge C. Allen McConnell, said he didn't marry a same-sex couple earlier this week because of his religious beliefs. Another judge was brought in to perform the wedding the same day.
The court typically uses a weekly rotation of judges to perform marriages and handle other unscheduled matters. McConnell was on duty Monday when he refused to perform the wedding.
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irisblue
(32,975 posts)and Judge McConnell, you do recall municipal judges are elected, right?
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)According to the bible I've seen quoted and quoted back. Separation of church and state, Judge McConnell.
aggiesal
(8,916 posts)Nobody is asking Judge McConnell to not go against his religious beliefs.
Since you're apparently NOT gay, you'll never be in a gay marriage.
But since Judge McConnell is a public servant. Being paid by our tax dollars,
including I assume the gay couple asking for a marriage to be performed,
then your religious beliefs end at the courtroom door.
We have a secular government. If Judge McConnell wants to have a
religious government there are other countries where he can actually
practice his religious beliefs while serving the public that pays him.
Any middle-east country comes to mind.
msongs
(67,409 posts)PSPS
(13,599 posts)Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)Fire anyone who refuses to do their job en masse!
former9thward
(32,016 posts)They can't be fired.
redwitch
(14,944 posts)Any Catholic who supports marriage equality and receives communion is "profaning the Eucharist". His Catholic relative ( me) is really sad for him( and pissed off at his cruelty and narrow mindedness ). I believe that nothing separates us from the love of God, especially loving other people and letting them love whom they love. I have very dear friends who attend my church that are lesbians ( We attended their wedding in another state because NY had not yet passed marriage equality) and I know my pastor feels as I do.
Churches may do as they will but governments in the US are bound by the law of the land. Good for Judge Wagner and the rest of them should be removed from their judgeships!
Thespian2
(2,741 posts)is not above the LAW...
Judge Wagner did what she thought was right...but the McConnell person should be dismissed as a judge immediately...
former9thward
(32,016 posts)They can't be fired.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Can they go to jail or at least be fined for breaking the law?
former9thward
(32,016 posts)They can be recalled or defeated at the next election. This guy has little to worry about. He is president of the Toledo NAACP. He won't be defeated.
Thespian2
(2,741 posts)Sorry that he probably won't be recalled, at least...
then this asshole should be stripped of his court, disbarred and so fourth. HE IS A PUBLIC SERVANT PERIOD.
dembotoz
(16,806 posts)charin
(62 posts)I heard the refusing Judge hooked them up with the willing one. Now it's easy to get hitched in Toledo.
Judges do so much, needing help on this administrative matter is trivial to his worthiness.
And KUDOS for the cool Judge.
murielm99
(30,741 posts)The guy is an elected official. He can't be fired, and apparently he won't be voted out of office.
If someone else is willing to do this, well, all right. At least gay people are getting married there. It seems like the judges are trying to handle everything without creating a huge uproar.
Do I think it is okay to be a bigot? No. But I won't change that person's mind by calling him names.
malthaussen
(17,200 posts)But her colleague should be out of a job. As he is elected, he should be impeached.
The law is not a matter of opinion, and no officer of the court should be allowed to try on the "aw shucks, I don't agree" line. If the judge had even the slightest integrity, he would resign if his beliefs seriously impede his execution of his office. This is a major point of principle, and the city of Toledo should not just grin and bear it.
-- Mal
JohnnyRingo
(18,634 posts)If it were my once in a lifetime event, I wouldn't want someone to perform the ceremony under duress, gritting their teeth as they read the rites. A marriage is supposed to be seen as a happy occasion, not a stick in the eye to someone who doesn't "approve".
As long as there's a reliable system to ensure someone is always able to step up and act on behalf of such bigoted officials, I see no problem. Does having someone punished for their beliefs somehow make a wedding better? Eventually, I believe same sex marriage will be considered the norm -like interracial unions- and such dissenters will be virtually non-existent.
Holy rollers can be brought into the 21st century kicking and screaming, but they will arrive.
christx30
(6,241 posts)You'll never win people over by punishing them and trying to destroy their lives. You have to show that you are a better person than them.