We've had Kremlin talking points about this that have defied the laws of physics.

that Kyiv was using passenger jets as human shields to fly their own fighters in the shadow.

The plane was diverted by Kyiv air traffic control from its usual and customary route so that Ukrainian fighter jets could be launched without fear of being shot down.

Seriously, I hope the Russians are paying good money.

The plane traveled at a speed that far exceeded the the speed of the Ukrainian fighters and it flew higher in the sky. The former means that only for a short interval of time could one be directly above the other.

In hindsight, internationally they should have rerouted all air traffic away from the area. However, even a short time before no one considered the rebels either flew planes or could hit something that high.

it is for a radar. The Kyiv people wanted the separatists to not fire because they would be shooting at a passenger jet.

The fighter jets travel a LOT faster than a passenger plane and can easily hover over passenger traffic to fool the radar.

Kiev didn't want to change the standard flight route so they could fly their fighters on the same route safely. This made it extremely difficult for the radar operators to discern friend from foe.

any modern radar could have easily distinguished the two and the physical separation would have made a missile engagement against the fighter easy.

They're a tool of the empire.

CNN has called Kiev (capital of Ukraine) both Ulan-Bator (capital of Mongolia) and Lugansk (city hundreds of miles east), and they also say Ukraine is somewhere near Pakistan and India. Calls Syria Afghanistan. Places Hong Kong in South America, calls Pennsylvania New York, puts Tripoli in Lebanon, misplaces Missouri, Alabama, and Mississippi all on the same map, puts Iraq in Europe, moves Cambodia to Africa, and calls Florida Cuba. And that's just in geography.

Anyone who trusts CNN is a fool...

But Holland is a Tool of the Empire as well, right?

I never heard of any of these -- and they are all strange enough to get attention. Therefore, I would like some links. If not to CNN itself, as they would have (and should have) corrected the mistakes. However, there would be links to screen captures or real time comments on this.

I suspect this is complete BS .... and it has nothing to do with the facts that the pro-Russian rebels shot down the plane. This always seemed most likely - especially as they had claimed downing a fighter jet soon after the attack, which was subsequently scrubbed. For both Russia and the rebels, a better path might have been to own up to the mistake and take responsibility.

Therein lies your answer.