they promise - even in the USA.

Did it just piss off the bullies?

And, frankly, it looks like we may be fomenting it since the government doesn't want to allow the wealthy to screw its people over like we do in neoliberal land.

Wiki: Relations were strong under conservative neoliberal[citation needed] governments in Venezuela like that of Rafael Caldera. However, tensions increased after the socialist President Hugo Chávez assumed elected office in 1999. Tensions between the countries increased after Venezuela accused the administration of George W. Bush of supporting the Venezuelan failed coup attempt in 2002 against Chavez.[neutrality is disputed] Venezuela broke off diplomatic relations with the U.S. in September 2008 in solidarity with Bolivia after a U.S. ambassador was accused of cooperating with violent anti-government groups in that country, though relations were reestablished under President Barack Obama in June 2009. In February 2014, Venezuelan Government ordered three American diplomats to leave the country on charges of promoting violence.[


http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/United-States/Venezuela/Crime

is today's Venezuela under the Chavez-Maduro model of 'governing'.

And only 58.3% finish after 6 years. So with only a third dropping out it's better than the US average. Way to go Venezuela.

What percentage of US students with full paid scholarships finish in 6 years?

Many a rich person I know never finished college because they were just NOT motivated to attend.

Tenn offers a small scholarship for its college students but their graduation rate has not increased significantly.

I am NOT the shell answer man so I wont research your questions but it's still a fairly high number.

This article is merely another hit piece by a capitalist organization attacking a socialist country with fake "news".

Not every medical student becomes a doctor. Although not a frequent problem, about 6 percent of medical students are unsuccessful in meeting their dream within seven years, according to a 2007 study from the Association of American Medical Colleges.

This failure is almost never an academic problem or an inability to handle the material. Admissions committees in the U.S. do not accept candidates they believe will fail to become physicians.



http://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/medical-school-admissions-doctor/2013/10/22/understand-common-reasons-students-leave-medical-school

For Venezuela it was a third over in less than a year. You fail just like the chavista government.

LOL

At least 1,000 Palestinians will receive a free university education in Venezuela.

The president of the Republic of Venezuela, Nicolas Maduro, welcomed 119 Palestinian students who will be trained in the field of medicine through the new Yasser Arafat Scholarship Program, and announced the expansion of the program.

"We will train at least 1,000 doctors, quickly, now. It is a hard goal but we can’t fail on this, we have no excuses. It will be difficult but we will train at least 1,000 Palestinian students. I just ordered the Ministry of Education to expand the program not just in medicine, we also will enable them to study engineering, architecture and every field of knowledge," Maduro announced, in an address Thursday in front of the newly arrived Palestinian student delegation to Caracas, the Venezuelan capital

http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/1.625477

It is good that there was some followup to this story. Unfortunate that it didn't work out so well for these kids.

Oh well--it wasn't a total waste. It was rather like an "immersion year abroad." I'll bet they brushed up on their Spanish--maybe they can now get into a program in Spain or some other Spanish speaking nation with a decent reputation for medical training. Hell, even Cuba would have been a better bet--they do teach their doctors well and they know how to do a lot with very little!

This is merely propaganda posted by capitalist tools.

over one year.

http://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/medical-school-admissions-doctor/2013/10/22/understand-common-reasons-students-leave-medical-school


Why do you like the Venezuelan government again?

The article said med studies and mentioned other fields. Med school only offers medical studies so it is more likely equivalent to a US college pre-med program, which can be quite vigorous.

I would think they would go on to.....Cuba for their doctorate. Oh wait you don't like Cuba either because they too call themselves socialist.

At least socialist countries are trying something new. Unlike capitalist countries that allow their banksters and corporate elite to rule over them with ever more power every year.

"Today, Palestine enters the heart of Venezuela," Maduro declared in November when he greeted the first 119 recipients of a medical school scholarship, adding that the historic exchange with a key ideological ally had made him cry.
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The students' decision to leave prompted Venezuela to freeze the scholarship program that was supposed to bring in hundreds more Palestinians to study in various fields, according to an official in the Palestinian Education Ministry in the West Bank city of Ramallah. The young people's choices have raised diplomatic tensions between the two allies, said the official, who insisted on anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the media.

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The Salvador Allende medical school, a sister facility to Cuba's Latin American School of Medicine, is named for the Marxist president of Chile who killed himself while being overthrown by a 1973 coup. The school outside Caracas is adorned with shaggy palm trees and busts of revolutionary figures.



My numbers on US medical school drop outs are the only comparison that makes sense, not yours on undergrad drop out rate. I am pretty happy to be in the US rather than in the West Bank or Caracas, thank you.

American medical schools have a completion rate of just over 90%

But it's okay. Google is hard.

They don't require a shred of proof. All you have to do is make groundless assertions and dismiss any and all arguments to the contrary as propaganda disseminated by the architects of the conspiracy.

we don't know from the article if the students are all from there. It's a scholarship program, I kind of think they'd open it to all Palestinians, not just those from WB...?

It is completely and utterly unlikely that these people are from Gaza (governed by Hamas).

Nevermind that Gaza is effectively an open air prison and almost nobody gets out of that shithole...

It just baffles me why we have folks who just cant admit that the "revolution" is and has BEEN a failure. And it will CONTINUE to fail, as all proof shows, until the people are able to rid themselves of the cancer ruining their lives

Maduro's lack of governing skills. Whatever the reason, this has turned out to be a failure of EPIC proportions for the Venezuelan people.

It really is an art form for some

They don't point to the nordic countries.

Venezuela is fucked up. Anyone with an IQ above a turnip can see that.

However, they are not fucked up because of the have a socialist government, they are fucked up because of they have an incompetent, corrupt, and stupid government.

None of them take over privately owned companies. They have much lower corporate tax rates. They all have a national sales tax, which most DUers are against. I'm not; i think its needed here. But their continued success is vulnerable. High immigration is going to put a strain on the "system". It will also drop their productivity as time goes by. I'm sure some folks here might disagree, but other countries are prime examples of whats likely to be down the road for the Nordic countries.
But I also think they are a good example of how things can be done a bit differently here to improve several different areas

Much like Maduro himself, whom I don't think is wrapped too tight.

training to learn to do community health type healthcare"?

How come the USA doesn't pick 50 persons (use a lottery system) and fund 50 Doctors education a year?

Instead we get billions squandered on homeland security.

Americans go to Mexico, Grenada, where ever they can get accepted for medical training.

I think we need a few MORE medical schools in this country, but the doctors have lobbies, too--if there are too many doctors, why, the salaries go down! Can't have that, now, can we....?

kind of like when they "price set" a barrel of oil. Americas people are just meat to our governments lobbyists.

What we should do (and it is starting, but it is slow) is not requiring people to see a "doctor" for every frigging thing. People should have more access to medical care, not less.

Thats a good start

Anyone with a high deductible should shop around--I know there are "urgent care" clinics with better prices. http://www.cvs.com/minuteclinic/services/price-lists

"Eyelash lengthening consultations" are cheap, though....!

Where I live, the urgent care centers are just offshoots of the hospitals, so they've got some pretty high prices too. Its possible that privately run locations may be a much cheaper option. I hear Wal MArt is going to start clinics as well.
I have a friend who is self employed and just started offering cash to doctors and I was surprised at how big a discount he would get for some stuff. Of course, thats only an option if you can write the check.

In some of the 'economically challenged' neighborhoods, you can usually get in and out of those for under fifty bucks. Some are subsidized, and that keeps costs down, too.