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Omaha Steve

(99,679 posts)
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 01:54 PM Jul 2015

Brad Pitt, Bill Maher slam Costco, speak up for caged hens

Source: AP

By SANDY COHEN

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Brad Pitt and Bill Maher say Costco contributes to animal cruelty by selling eggs from caged hens.

Pitt sent a letter to the chief executive of the big-box chain Thursday asking the company to stop selling eggs produced this way. Pitt's letter to Craig Jelinek says caged birds suffer atrophy of their muscles and bones from years of immobility, adding that the cages have been banned in California and much of Europe.

"As you know, these birds producing eggs for your shelves are crammed five or more into cages that are not large enough for even one hen to spread her wings," Pitt writes.

Maher took aim at the company in an editorial published last week by The New York Times.

FULL story at link.



FILE - In this Oct. 19, 2014 file photo, actor Brad Pitt poses for photographers at the premiere for the film "Fury," which closes the BFI London Film Festival, at the Odeon cinema in central London. Brad Pitt and Bill Maher say Costco contributes to animal cruelty by selling eggs from caged hens. Pitt sent a letter to the chief executive of the big-box chain Thursday, July 16, 2015, asking the company to stop selling eggs produced this way. (Photo by Joel Ryan/Invision/AP, File)

Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/bf6b8439b7d340ff86ef2e46889cc32c/brad-pitt-bill-maher-slam-costco-speak-caged-hens



Love Costco but they need to change this.
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Brad Pitt, Bill Maher slam Costco, speak up for caged hens (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jul 2015 OP
Unfortunately most of the egg industry are caged hens. I would like to see Costco change their jwirr Jul 2015 #1
That's a good place to start. If anyone will listen, it's this company. C Moon Jul 2015 #2
I make sure I buy cage-free, hormone free eggs. dorkzilla Jul 2015 #3
Me too--the cost difference can be made up elsewhere. spooky3 Jul 2015 #25
Love costco, glad LittleGirl Jul 2015 #4
K & R ctsnowman Jul 2015 #5
Cage free is really no better than caged chernabog Jul 2015 #6
This is what we buy Organic Smart Chicken Certified Humane Omaha Steve Jul 2015 #7
Certified Humane chernabog Jul 2015 #8
OUR MISSION Omaha Steve Jul 2015 #9
If you really care about animals that much chernabog Jul 2015 #12
Eggs are not yet animals. nt roody Jul 2015 #32
I am well aware of that chernabog Jul 2015 #33
Baby steps Omaha Steve Jul 2015 #44
Fish oil and krill oil are 2 different things TexasBushwhacker Jul 2015 #46
CVS: Vacuuming Antarctica for krill | SumOfUs Omaha Steve Jul 2015 #47
Thanks for that. red dog 1 Jul 2015 #36
certified humane is just feel good mumbo jumbo before you hack them to pieces and eat them lol nt msongs Jul 2015 #16
Exactly chernabog Jul 2015 #23
Tecumseh isn't available for a lot Ilsa Jul 2015 #22
Stop selling eggs altogether? Indydem Jul 2015 #10
My opinion- chernabog Jul 2015 #11
Yeah. I'm not a progressive. Indydem Jul 2015 #13
That's a myth chernabog Jul 2015 #14
Eating eggs is cruel? That's a broad brush MissB Jul 2015 #15
no it's not chernabog Jul 2015 #17
not for the male chicks restorefreedom Jul 2015 #48
I like to pretend I'm more progressive than people I simply disagree with too. LanternWaste Jul 2015 #19
Why don't you state your position on the subject chernabog Jul 2015 #21
It's not cruel to eat an egg, the production of some eggs may be cruel. ToxMarz Jul 2015 #24
Unless you are eating your own eggs, chernabog Jul 2015 #26
Well iI enjoy eating chicken too, I bet they would wish I stuck to just eggs. ToxMarz Jul 2015 #27
haha, yeah! chernabog Jul 2015 #28
Eggs are UNfertilized. Where is the cruelty? PassingFair Jul 2015 #73
The harvesting of the eggs chernabog Jul 2015 #74
What if I raised my own hens, still "cruel"? Why? nt PassingFair Jul 2015 #75
Yes, still cruel chernabog Jul 2015 #76
Hens are gifts that will retire in air-conditioned luxury. PassingFair Jul 2015 #79
Do they also lay golden eggs chernabog Jul 2015 #80
If you want them to. PassingFair Jul 2015 #81
Did the hen give you permission chernabog Jul 2015 #82
It pecked out its consent. nt PassingFair Jul 2015 #84
No doubt you'll supply objective, peer-reviewed analysis rather than a pretty picture LanternWaste Jul 2015 #18
I'm stating my opinion, chernabog Jul 2015 #20
The minimum standard should follow CA's Prop. 2 Gormy Cuss Jul 2015 #53
Do you really believe this is going to happen? chernabog Jul 2015 #54
It's already happening. Gormy Cuss Jul 2015 #58
Will Love Costco even more when they do this J_J_ Jul 2015 #29
It's not bad store when the only thing Unknown Beatle Jul 2015 #30
Union busters. Indydem Jul 2015 #45
Well, fuck me. Unknown Beatle Jul 2015 #49
People who buy them also contribute to the cruelty. nt roody Jul 2015 #31
Costco will listen. What about Walmart, Kroger, Publix, Ingels, etc. etc. YOHABLO Jul 2015 #34
I doubt if Walmart or Kroger will listen. red dog 1 Jul 2015 #38
Are they fans of "vegan" hens, too? Those chickens like meat!! MADem Jul 2015 #35
Are you concerned when they are killed? chernabog Jul 2015 #37
Nope--I love me some chicken kebab. MADem Jul 2015 #41
Oh, cool chernabog Jul 2015 #42
No. Pedal your lifestyle choices someplace else. Indydem Jul 2015 #51
I'm just trying to promote a less-cruel alternative. chernabog Jul 2015 #52
Yes, that's it, exactly. It's all good! MADem Jul 2015 #63
Huge K&R red dog 1 Jul 2015 #39
The Humane Farming Myth oberliner Jul 2015 #40
This chernabog Jul 2015 #43
Absolutely true and just more deplorable stuff behind the curtain. JudyM Jul 2015 #65
It is the USDA who has weak, outdated regulations and allows animal cruelty like puppymills Sunlei Jul 2015 #70
cage free is a small step restorefreedom Jul 2015 #50
God, that's grotesque. I always buy cage-free eggs where chickens have been fed valerief Jul 2015 #55
Christie Vetoes Pig Crate Bill In Controversial Move Omaha Steve Jul 2015 #56
Vile. I don't eat red meat or pork. I can live without bacon. valerief Jul 2015 #57
Humans can live without any animal products chernabog Jul 2015 #62
Well no, I really can't moonscape Jul 2015 #64
Did your nutritionist tell you that? chernabog Jul 2015 #66
That's not true for me, nor moonscape Jul 2015 #72
Cage free is still cruel chernabog Jul 2015 #59
Well, I guess I'll just have to take your word for it. nt valerief Jul 2015 #60
It's not just me saying it chernabog Jul 2015 #61
Yes they do need to change this. Never buy eggs from them until they respond. lonestarnot Jul 2015 #67
No one is perfect. romanic Jul 2015 #68
animal hoarders are considered animal abusers, why do factory farms get a pass to abuse animals? Sunlei Jul 2015 #69
I really appreciate Pitt using his fame to further good causes tabasco Jul 2015 #71
I'm a vegan who eats eggs gwheezie Jul 2015 #77
How can you consider yourself a vegan if you eat eggs? chernabog Jul 2015 #78
Seriously it's not an animal gwheezie Jul 2015 #83
I raised chickens. tazkcmo Jul 2015 #85

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
1. Unfortunately most of the egg industry are caged hens. I would like to see Costco change their
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 02:01 PM
Jul 2015

supplier but most of us are buying eggs from caged hens.

Except those of us who are raising our own.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
3. I make sure I buy cage-free, hormone free eggs.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 02:09 PM
Jul 2015

And Costco is a really responsive/responsible company...I’m sure they’ll make good on this one.

I’d love to raise my own but I don’t think (I’m pretty sure) my town allows them.

spooky3

(34,462 posts)
25. Me too--the cost difference can be made up elsewhere.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 04:23 PM
Jul 2015

If those who can afford it demand humane conditions and refuse to buy products from cruel producers, change will happen.

Kudos to people who use their fame to bring about good.

 

chernabog

(480 posts)
6. Cage free is really no better than caged
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 02:22 PM
Jul 2015

I wish Brad and Bill would urge them to stop selling eggs altogether.

Omaha Steve

(99,679 posts)
7. This is what we buy Organic Smart Chicken Certified Humane
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 02:54 PM
Jul 2015

The company is local and in all the stores.

https://www.cafetecumseh.com/SmartChicken/Default.aspx

In addition to the care and husbandry that goes
into raising and processing Smart Chicken,
Tecumseh Farms Organic birds are exclusively
fed a certified organic grain diet. Tecumseh Farms
is the only chicken producer in the country
to offer a product line that is both certified
organic and certified humane by
Humane Farm Animal Care.

Omaha Steve

(99,679 posts)
9. OUR MISSION
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 03:12 PM
Jul 2015



http://certifiedhumane.org/

Humane Farm Animal Care (HFAC) is the leading non-profit certification organization dedicated to improving the lives of farm animals in food production from birth through slaughter.

The goal of the program is to improve the lives of farm animals by driving consumer demand for kinder and more responsible farm animal practices.

When you see the Certified Humane Raised and Handled® label on a product you can be assured that the food products have come from facilities that meet precise, objective standards for farm animal treatment.




 

chernabog

(480 posts)
12. If you really care about animals that much
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 03:32 PM
Jul 2015

to buy "humane", why not go the extra step and just not eat animals? That way there is no contribution to their death
.
And lol at that picture... its like "We are having such a great time! gonna kill these goats soon lol"

Omaha Steve

(99,679 posts)
44. Baby steps
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 06:09 PM
Jul 2015

Last edited Thu Jul 16, 2015, 07:59 PM - Edit history (1)




I gave up fish oil. It started with my milk. When I was diagnosed with dementia I was told to have DHA Omega 3 fortified milk. The DHA Omega comes from plants, not fish. Then I read how fish oil supplements were bad for the entire food chain because it robs from the bottom. Then I took my granddaughter to see "Whales" at the zoo IMAX. It reinforced that krill kill fact. So I went to a fish oil replacement. Baby steps. I doubt I'll ever give up meat. Trying to make a difference in my buying selections is a start. DHA Omega from plankton below.


My fish free supplement:

My milk that started it:


Video on my milk:

TexasBushwhacker

(20,208 posts)
46. Fish oil and krill oil are 2 different things
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 07:52 PM
Jul 2015

Krill oil is problematic because krill is, as you said, at the bottom if the food chain. The only real issue with fish oil is that it has to be distilled to remove mercury.

Omaha Steve

(99,679 posts)
47. CVS: Vacuuming Antarctica for krill | SumOfUs
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 07:57 PM
Jul 2015

http://action.sumofus.org/a/cvs-antarctic-krill/?sub=homepage




Update: We've already had over 90,000 people call on CVS to stop selling krill oil pills. And now, CVS is hitting back.

CVS is claiming that the krill in its krill oil health supplements are sustainably and responsibly sourced. But the sustainability certification CVS is relying on is deeply flawed; it doesn't account for the importance of krill in the Antarctic food chain, and the fact that krill are vulnerable to climate change.

PS. If you would like to read our longer response on why the certifications are bad, click here.

CVS is supporting the plunder of Antarctica and one of the last unspoiled oceans on the planet.

The pharmacy giant is marketing and selling Antarctic krill oil as a health supplement -- vacuuming krill in vast quantities from the Antarctic oceans and pumping them into pills. It's putting the entire Antarctic ecosystem at risk, and we can stop it.

Much more and petition at link.

msongs

(67,430 posts)
16. certified humane is just feel good mumbo jumbo before you hack them to pieces and eat them lol nt
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 04:00 PM
Jul 2015
 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
10. Stop selling eggs altogether?
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 03:13 PM
Jul 2015

What kind of a elitist 1% statement is that?

Eggs are one of the least expensive, most protein filled foods that many people can afford.

Not everyone can afford to buy eggs raised in some kind of new age chicken mansion, or have the space or resources to raise our own.

Ridiculous.

 

chernabog

(480 posts)
11. My opinion-
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 03:25 PM
Jul 2015

Eating eggs is cruel. Not an elitist statement at all, a very progressive statement. Maybe too progressive for you.

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
13. Yeah. I'm not a progressive.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 03:38 PM
Jul 2015

I'm a Democrat. I've been finding out lately that there is a BIG difference.

Enjoy your progressive, vegan, more expensive lifestyle.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
48. not for the male chicks
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 08:04 PM
Jul 2015

that get ground up alive after being tossed into the "waste" bin because they are "worthless."

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
19. I like to pretend I'm more progressive than people I simply disagree with too.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 04:06 PM
Jul 2015

I like to pretend I'm more progressive than people I simply disagree with too. It's rather self-validating and allows us the pretense we're much more ethical than those around us.

ToxMarz

(2,169 posts)
24. It's not cruel to eat an egg, the production of some eggs may be cruel.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 04:20 PM
Jul 2015

All mammals produce eggs and they are either fertilized or discarded. I guess not just mammals.

 

chernabog

(480 posts)
26. Unless you are eating your own eggs,
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 04:23 PM
Jul 2015

Then it is not your egg to eat, IMO. Humans have no need to consume eggs.

PassingFair

(22,434 posts)
73. Eggs are UNfertilized. Where is the cruelty?
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 07:32 PM
Jul 2015

They have NO potential for growth.
They are less "alive" than plants.

Where is the cruelty?

 

chernabog

(480 posts)
74. The harvesting of the eggs
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 10:52 PM
Jul 2015

Is where the cruelty lies. The treatment of the hens, the male chicks, just do some research.

 

chernabog

(480 posts)
76. Yes, still cruel
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 11:04 PM
Jul 2015

1. Where are you getting the hens from?
2. What happens to the hens when they stop producing eggs?

Exploitation is cruel

PassingFair

(22,434 posts)
81. If you want them to.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 11:14 PM
Jul 2015

The egg itself has no life.
Eating it's perfect proteins is not cruel in and of itself.

I agree that better conditions should be mandated.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
18. No doubt you'll supply objective, peer-reviewed analysis rather than a pretty picture
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 04:04 PM
Jul 2015

No doubt you'll supply objective, peer-reviewed analysis rather than a pretty picture to better support your premise/allegation/bumper-sticker, yes?

 

chernabog

(480 posts)
20. I'm stating my opinion,
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 04:08 PM
Jul 2015

just like Brad Pitt and Bill are doing. Do you ask everyone with an opinion to supply objective, peer-reviewed analysis?

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
53. The minimum standard should follow CA's Prop. 2
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 09:04 PM
Jul 2015

It defines a minimum area for the chicken as enough room to turn around, lie down, and spread its wings, and as of this year that is suppose to apply to the hens who laid eggs sold in the state.

 

chernabog

(480 posts)
54. Do you really believe this is going to happen?
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 09:08 PM
Jul 2015

Who's going to enforce this? Farmers aren't gonna give a shit about this. What's the penalty for not following these standards?

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
58. It's already happening.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 09:51 PM
Jul 2015

Many farmers do in fact give a shit about this and other regulations that may impact their profitability. There are both fines and short term jail stays for violations of Prop 2 and the state will inspect for this just as they inspect for other conditions.

Will everyone adhere to the law? No. Will more hens have better living conditions? Yes, even hens outside of CA because the big producers do not want to be locked out of the state.

The fact that the various meat councils were more upset by this than the egg producers tells me that there's a lot of fear that states would impose more standards on pig farmers and cattle ranchers. There'd be no reason for such fears if they just planned on ignoring the new laws.




 

J_J_

(1,213 posts)
29. Will Love Costco even more when they do this
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 04:48 PM
Jul 2015

Go Brad! (and I guess this makes up for a bit of Bill Maher's assholishness)

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
49. Well, fuck me.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 08:05 PM
Jul 2015

I was unaware. Costco should drop the Reynolds Group immediately and show strong commitment to workers in the US.

red dog 1

(27,837 posts)
38. I doubt if Walmart or Kroger will listen.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 05:38 PM
Jul 2015

Or Safeway, or Albertsons, or Luckys,, or Raleys, or Seven-Eleven, etc. etc.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
35. Are they fans of "vegan" hens, too? Those chickens like meat!!
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 05:32 PM
Jul 2015

They like bugs, worms, all kinds of living creatures. I am always concerned for the poor things when I see the "vegan/vegetarian" label on the egg carton.

I like eggs from the farmstand near a relative's house--I don't get near there often enough, but they are definitely like the eggs from my childhood! And I know those guys are scratching round the barnyard, eating all kinds of stuff.

If I ever lived in the countryside, I'd love to have a couple of hens, if I knew what I was doing!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
41. Nope--I love me some chicken kebab.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 05:43 PM
Jul 2015

They are raised to die, the food chickens. I hope they are sacrificed quickly, with dignity, so that I may enjoy their deliciousness.

I'll bet you can't find a single hen to give you a treatise on the joys of living. I'll wager it's something they don't even think about.

What they don't like is to feel pain, and I think they should be comfortable and have pleasant surroundings while they live.

 

chernabog

(480 posts)
42. Oh, cool
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 06:02 PM
Jul 2015

As long as they are comfortable before you eat their dead body, I guess it's all good then.
There are vegan options that taste just like the chicken flesh you so desire. Won't you please consider those options?

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
51. No. Pedal your lifestyle choices someplace else.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 08:22 PM
Jul 2015

People like chicken.

They like eggs.

Most people do not care how they get them.

Ever been pecked by a chicken? They are a nasty, mean, aggressive animal. There is no intelligence or warmth in them.

So, most people aren't going to eat your tofuchicken or whatever it is you are peddling.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
63. Yes, that's it, exactly. It's all good!
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 10:04 PM
Jul 2015

I've tried those "vegan options." I like soy based products just fine, but people who don't eat tasty chicken on a regular basis are not the best arbiters as to what "tastes like chicken" and what does not. Fake meat tastes like fake meat.

I'm an omnivore. I don't eat a half cow at every meal, or Henry VIII the chicken legs all the live-long day, but I like me some chicken on occasion. I also like beef and fish, and I have been known to indulge in a little bacon every now and again. I'm not a fan of lamb or mutton, so I don't eat well at Middle Eastern feasts unless they've got more than one meat on the menu, and I also don't do snake or venison or roadkill. If I were hungry enough, though, I'd overcome every objection.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
40. The Humane Farming Myth
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 05:43 PM
Jul 2015

While it’s sometimes possible to find small farms where the animals have better lives (though this in no way justifies exploiting or killing them), it’s important to realize that humane welfare labeling is largely a marketing ploy that preys on consumer willingness to pay more for better treatment of animals. If you’re buying “cage free,” “free range” or “humane certified” animal products from a grocery store, you are more than likely being deceived about the welfare of animals raised for food. Because “humane” labeling terms are not meaningfully defined or enforced, suppliers are notorious for manipulating intentional loopholes in these loosely interpreted standards. In a recent report, even Trader Joe’s “cage free” egg suppliers were found to debeak their hens, which means the birds also live in severely crowded facilities. Massive confinement operations, like Sparboe Farms and Perdue Farms, that confine millions of chickens in deplorable conditions, are awarded “humanely raised” certification through a USDA-sponsored fraudulent labeling scheme. And there is simply no such thing as a happy dairy cow.

http://woodstocksanctuary.org/learn-3/the-humane-farming-myth/

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
65. Absolutely true and just more deplorable stuff behind the curtain.
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 01:57 AM
Jul 2015

Something's better than nothing, though, I suppose.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
50. cage free is a small step
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 08:07 PM
Jul 2015

towards a more humane diet, which is plant based.

that is the problem with humane" farming. it gives people a feel good reason to keep about their habits which still end up killing 10 billion animals a year (u.s. only, not counting ocean animals as well as so called bycatch).

valerief

(53,235 posts)
55. God, that's grotesque. I always buy cage-free eggs where chickens have been fed
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 09:32 PM
Jul 2015

an organic grain diet. They cost at least twice as much, but I don't feel any guilt eating my eggs every day.

However, Costco isn't the only guilty merchandiser. Everywhere eggs are sold in America (I guess, except California) includes cruelty eggs. Congress is to blame. It won't stop without a law.

Omaha Steve

(99,679 posts)
56. Christie Vetoes Pig Crate Bill In Controversial Move
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 09:48 PM
Jul 2015

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/28/christie-vetoes-pig-bill_n_6238926.html

By JILL COLVIN
Posted: 11/28/2014 7:23 pm EST Updated: 01/28/2015 5:59 am EST

NEWARK, N.J. (AP) — Republican Gov. Chris Christie has vetoed a politically charged bill that would have banned the use of certain pig cages in his state, a move many observers see as aimed at appeasing Iowa voters ahead of a potential 2016 presidential run.

In a veto message issued Friday, Christie called the bill opposing gestation crates a "solution in search of a problem."

"It is a political movement masquerading as substantive policy," he said.

The crates, which are so small that pregnant pigs can't turn around in them, have been criticized by animal welfare activists as cruel. Pigs can spend years in them, and advocates say they don't want their use to spread.

FULL story at link.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
57. Vile. I don't eat red meat or pork. I can live without bacon.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 09:51 PM
Jul 2015

Pigs are highly intelligent animals. But these "leaders" don't give a shit about anyone not in the 1%. nt

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
64. Well no, I really can't
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 11:04 PM
Jul 2015

- at least not healthily.

You see, I'm extremely insulin resistant and must eat <30 carbs/day in order to stay off medication and control my health. Not eating any animal products would mean hugely increased carb intake, something my body can't tolerate.

Besides that, I have no problem accepting animals eating each other as part of the cycle of life. As humans not having any natural predators, I do think it's our responsibility to manage eating animals in as humane a way as possible.

I respect those who don't make that choice, even those who are anti-choice and picket clinics, but personally believe in rational humane choice in all things.

And besides that! - nobody will pry eggs from my cold dead hands!

 

chernabog

(480 posts)
66. Did your nutritionist tell you that?
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 07:35 AM
Jul 2015

A low fat diet with complex healthy carbs is much better suited for those with insulin resistance. Also, exercise helps.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
72. That's not true for me, nor
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 07:19 PM
Jul 2015

for many diabetics. What I listen to is my body, my meter, and resulting lab tests. I've been a moderator on an active diabetes forum for years, and know a lot about this subject, but this isn't the place for a treatise. We just have substantially different views. Mine were derived from research, trial and error, and contact with thousands of diabetics over time.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
71. I really appreciate Pitt using his fame to further good causes
Fri Jul 17, 2015, 05:17 PM
Jul 2015

He and Angelina seem very sincere in their desire to do good.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
77. I'm a vegan who eats eggs
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 11:07 PM
Jul 2015

I have hens, my friends and neighbors have hens, we have more eggs than we know what to do with.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
83. Seriously it's not an animal
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 11:25 PM
Jul 2015

And these eggs are not being produced to even be eaten. They're falling out of the hens.I quess I could leave the eggs for the snakes to eat them but I try not to attract snakes into the coop. I have the chickens for insect control so I don't use pesticides. They're my pets. No one eats them. I currently have 4 of them and a couple of ducks. If the hens don't lay eggs its not like I get mad at them. The girls are very loving and pretty set in their routine.
I do like my snakes though. I have black snakes living in my barn. I'm always glad to see them in the spring. I just don't want them with the hens.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
85. I raised chickens.
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 12:38 AM
Jul 2015

25 each Longhorn, Rhode Island Reds and Plymouth. The longhorns layed 2 to 3 eggs a day while the others did 1 sometimes 2. When they were chicks I would wlak them through my garden to feast on the grasshoppers and such. When they got larger had to keep them out as they would also eat my tomatoes and cucs. They also liked to eat each other on occasion. They're really stupid, too. Always laughed my ass off when one would get out of the chicken yard and run franticly around the fence trying to get back in.

After the garden was harvested, I'd let them all run free during the day. They stayed pretty close to their coop, scratching in the long gravel driveway and dirt patches as well as the harvested garden. After sundown they would roost in the surrounding trees. It was easy to pick 'em out and return them to the safety of their coop as they're pretty heavy sleepers. I loved my chickens and loved eating them, too. The one thing they all had in common besides laying eggs (except for the few roosters I had, of course) was they were delicious!

Many municipalities allow up to 3 chickens for individuals. Just make sure you build your coop so it protects against burrowing (underground barrier at least 18 inches deep and flying predators (A roof made of chicken wire for their "yard&quot .

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