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Omaha Steve

(99,632 posts)
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 08:10 AM Jul 2015

Sandler says he wasn't trying to offend Native Americans

Source: AP

By JOHN CARUCC

NEW YORK (AP) — Adam Sandler feels that when audiences finally see his upcoming Netflix comedy, "The Ridiculous Six," they will realize he wasn't trying to offend anyone.

The spoof takes its name from the western classic "The Magnificent Seven" and pokes fun at the genre. But not everyone found it funny.

Earlier this year, a group of Native American actors walked off the New Mexico film set over complaints that content in the film was offensive to their culture. The actors objected over the vile names of some of the characters, as well as a Native American woman urinating while smoking a peace pipe.

"It was just a misunderstanding and once the movie is out will be cleared up," Sandler told The Associated Press on Saturday on the red carpet for the world premiere of his new film, "Pixels."

FULL story at link. Here is the original LBN post back in April: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141075479



Adam Sandler and Jackie Sandler attend the world premiere of "Pixels" at Regal E-Walk on Saturday, July 18, 2015, in New York. (Photo by Charles Sykes/Invision/AP)

Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/72bb2d864e034fcf95f167feabf3dbab/sandberg-says-he-wasnt-trying-offend-native-americans

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Sandler says he wasn't trying to offend Native Americans (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jul 2015 OP
Good luck with that. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #1
Two-edged sword. Igel Jul 2015 #8
Not all 'edges' are the same. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #10
Please do not watch stand-up comedy. former9thward Jul 2015 #17
It's been a long time since he has been funny. His "comedies" are awful. EEO Jul 2015 #2
If he skewers all, I'm good with it Android3.14 Jul 2015 #3
Heck, he offends everybody. WhoWoodaKnew Jul 2015 #4
the trick is to be funny, so even the offended laughs. He fails at that. yurbud Jul 2015 #16
That comedy will stay off my Netflix list. ananda Jul 2015 #5
I can't believe Sandler madville Jul 2015 #6
Yeah, I've never gotten his appeal. Tobin S. Jul 2015 #7
It's not my job to defend Adam Sandler... JohnnyRingo Jul 2015 #9
Of course he offended them he's a Republican Historic NY Jul 2015 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #12
I am wondering if any of the groups portrayed in Blazing Saddles found the final product LiberalArkie Jul 2015 #13
Adam Sandler has maybe 1/100th of Mel Brooks' talent. Paladin Jul 2015 #20
No; especially not Richard Pryor (writer) and Cleavon Little (actor) REP Jul 2015 #24
Except me fjlovato Jul 2015 #14
Evidently the actors he was treating like shit on set care. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #26
I'm more offended by his horrible movies. BlueStater Jul 2015 #15
Adam Sandler is no Mel Brooks. uppityperson Jul 2015 #18
I'll defer to Steven Fry on being 'offended' Snow Leopard Jul 2015 #19
he wasn't trying.. DCJ Jul 2015 #21
Adam Sandler movies are more fun to make than watch olddots Jul 2015 #22
To make amends he should stop making movies. At least for the next 20 years. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2015 #23
Joan Rivers gave the one-word response, 'lucky,' to closeupready Jul 2015 #25
I guess it's a good thing he wasn't trying... Kalidurga Jul 2015 #27

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
1. Good luck with that.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 08:24 AM
Jul 2015

Offending people and 'not meaning to offend people' are two different things. It doesn't really matter if you didn't 'intend' to offend if you actually DO offend. Saying you didn't 'mean' to offend is just another nonpology. Acknowledge the offense, understand WHY it's offensive, and then do something about it.

Igel

(35,309 posts)
8. Two-edged sword.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 09:39 AM
Jul 2015

You apologize for the accidental offense.

Those offended, however, also have to admit that they took what wasn't offered, that there was no reason to be offended. That is, if we claim to be one society. Otherwise we have to segregate just to make life reasonable for all.

Otherwise you're saying that your every action is at the mercy of everybody else's feelings. You must be empathetic, considerate, understanding. That's your obligation. They, however, have no obligations to you: they just have the right to be offended, with no mutual obligations, no need for understanding or consideration.

And that's not just offensive. That's repulsive and corrodes social trust with its sheer arrogance. It's the KKK--"you have to treat us with respect, we don't have to treat you with anything but condescension." It's the New Black Panthers. It divides people into two groups--those who must be perpetually on their guard, and those who are entitled to feel they are only victims. It encourages feelings of offense and victimization because it gives them the power they think they're due.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
10. Not all 'edges' are the same.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 09:50 AM
Jul 2015

I think the difference is whether or not you actually have any real respect for the people you've offended.

I'm probably not going to worry too hard about offending the KKK, because I don't respect them at all. But if I really do respect someone, then it is incumbent on me to figure out why what I say or do is offensive to them, to work to understand their viewpoint.

Am I perfect? No. So sometimes I'm not going to put in the work, sometimes I'm going to make incorrect assumptions about them that stop me from bothering to try and understand where they're coming from. But the more respect I have for them, in general, the more work I'm going to put into trying to see where they're coming from.

former9thward

(32,006 posts)
17. Please do not watch stand-up comedy.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 03:33 PM
Jul 2015

You will be offended. I guess you would like to see satire banned also.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
3. If he skewers all, I'm good with it
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 09:14 AM
Jul 2015

Expecting humor without offense is like expecting sports without competition. Let the box office decide.

madville

(7,410 posts)
6. I can't believe Sandler
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 09:31 AM
Jul 2015

Is making a movie that exploits racial and ethnic or sexist stereotypes and has juvenile potty humor, his career must be in bad shape for him to sink to this level (sarcasm)

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
9. It's not my job to defend Adam Sandler...
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 09:39 AM
Jul 2015

I never cared for him on SNL, but if what he says is true, the claims may be without merit. I say that because the way producers make movies with scenes out of order, what may seem racist at first can be put into context in the final edit. Many actors have no idea what their final product is until they see the complete movie.

If the claims turn out to be true, he's on his own, but I think it's fair to give him the benefit of the doubt until then. If the movie has blatant racial stereotypes, he won't get away with it.

Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
13. I am wondering if any of the groups portrayed in Blazing Saddles found the final product
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 10:45 AM
Jul 2015

offensive? For some reason I always thought it the least offensive of any show I had ever seen. I thought "The Lone Ranger" offensive by the way the American Indians were betrayed. Just wondering.

REP

(21,691 posts)
24. No; especially not Richard Pryor (writer) and Cleavon Little (actor)
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 08:06 AM
Jul 2015

Q: Blazing Saddles also makes frequent use of the "N-word." Could you get away with that today?

A: Never. If they did a remake of Blazing Saddles today, they would leave out the N-word. And then, you've got no movie. And I wouldn't have used it so much if I didn't have Richard Pryor with me on the set as one of my writers. And Cleavon Little [as Sheriff Bart] was great. Even though it was allowed, I kept asking Cleavon, "Is that all right there? Is that too much there? Am I pushing this?" and he'd say, "no, no, no, it's perfect there."


Brooks's movie was using offensive language and stereotypes to ridicule the mindset behind that language and those stereotypes - that's why the movie works so well. That, and fart jokes.

fjlovato

(29 posts)
14. Except me
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 01:02 PM
Jul 2015

Why does everyone(?) get their panties in a wad over everything that is said by anyone? Who cares what Adam Sandler or Donald Trump or anyone says. Only fools bother to comment on what other fools say (present company excepted) is beyond me.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
26. Evidently the actors he was treating like shit on set care.
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 01:03 PM
Jul 2015

if you don't care, that's fine. But nobody cares that you don't care, yet you felt the need to inform us of this.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
15. I'm more offended by his horrible movies.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 01:10 PM
Jul 2015

His attempts at drama are at least passable but his "comedies" are a blight on mankind.

DCJ

(12 posts)
21. he wasn't trying..
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 01:19 AM
Jul 2015

Perhaps it was his being a total ass & not caring about anyone but himself & ignoring what they were telling him??

& so now he is a victim-----

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
25. Joan Rivers gave the one-word response, 'lucky,' to
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 12:59 PM
Jul 2015

the PBS documentarian who asked her for her assessment of Adam Sandler (along with several other names of those who are well-known comics), which I recall at the time was almost the epitome of 'damning with faint praise', i.e., she was really giving and kind about others in her industry about whom she probably could have just said 'boring' or 'bad'.

Interestingly because his name came up already here, Rivers referred to Mel Brooks as a genius, which was simply a fact, IMO.

As a disclaimer, I know nothing about Adam Sandler except I've seen him in a couple films (whose titles I can't recall ATM), and don't recall feeling much about him one way or another.

So even if I were a huge fan, he's a big boy and can handle public criticism without my help.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
27. I guess it's a good thing he wasn't trying...
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 01:04 PM
Jul 2015

cuz he sure did a hell of a job doing that just by being a natural ass.

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