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brooklynite

(94,723 posts)
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 09:51 AM Jul 2015

North Korean elections 'achieve 99.97 per cent turnout'

Source: The Telegraph

North Koreans went to the polls on Sunday for tightly controlled local elections that saw a 99.97 per cent turnout, state media reported.

Pyongyang's state news agency reported that voters were "singing and dancing" as they cast their votes in polls to elect new provincial, city and county representatives put forward by the ruling party.

All polling stations were "clad in a festive atmosphere", according to official Korean Central News Agency.

The elections were the first at the local level since Kim Jong-un, the supreme leader and first secretary of the Workers' Party of Korea, inherited the leadership of the world's only hereditary communist dictatorship in December 2011.

Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/11748166/North-Korean-elections-not-too-close-to-call.html



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North Korean elections 'achieve 99.97 per cent turnout' (Original Post) brooklynite Jul 2015 OP
We'll be seeing a repeat of this in Venezuela... Archae Jul 2015 #1
If there was zero abstinence in Venezuela, Maduro would've probably never been elected Marksman_91 Jul 2015 #3
What an absolute pile of shit LiberalLovinLug Jul 2015 #11
They take care of their opponents by not allowing them on the ballot madville Jul 2015 #13
But weirdly when Fateh el-Sisi gets these results, he's totally credible Scootaloo Jul 2015 #26
it will be adjusted to 100% after the population loses .03 percent to anti-aircraft fire samsingh Jul 2015 #2
And in a stunning victory.. padfun Jul 2015 #4
Hmm... That's down four points since the last election. Orrex Jul 2015 #5
Well, you're not accounting for the statistical margin of error... brooklynite Jul 2015 #8
I wondered where Ken Blackwell was working now Botany Jul 2015 #6
I'm surprised they didn't just say 110% of the vote tomm2thumbs Jul 2015 #7
"hereditary communist dictatorship"? North Korea has NOT been Communist since the early 1960s happyslug Jul 2015 #9
Good point. What do you call a "hereditary dictatorship" where the government owns everything? pampango Jul 2015 #10
"Absolute monarchy" Scootaloo Jul 2015 #27
"clad in a festive atmosphere" sarisataka Jul 2015 #12
A former Soviet 152mm SP howitzer outside a BRITISH polling station happyslug Jul 2015 #14
Can't say the Brits sarisataka Jul 2015 #15
Took me a few minutes, the English "Polling Place" with what was NOT an M109 was the question happyslug Jul 2015 #17
It's a census, people YoungDemCA Jul 2015 #16
Yup. Travis_0004 Jul 2015 #18
No no no. Every ballot is cast for Kim Il-sung Scootaloo Jul 2015 #28
Here, we fiigure how many people went to the polls on election day ... undiegrinder Jul 2015 #21
Honestly, if you don't laugh at this you might cry. Arkana Jul 2015 #19
At least the North Korean fixed elections are obvious daleo Jul 2015 #20
So who ran against Kim Jong-un? Reter Jul 2015 #22
The guy's funeral was yesterday. Archae Jul 2015 #23
Whoever's in the .03 percent better have a good excuse! nt elias49 Jul 2015 #24
I'm sure if they didn't turn out they could expect the worse JonLP24 Jul 2015 #25

Archae

(46,344 posts)
1. We'll be seeing a repeat of this in Venezuela...
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 10:25 AM
Jul 2015

Well, Maduro is throwing in jail or banning from office anyone who seriously challenges his rule by decree.

 

Marksman_91

(2,035 posts)
3. If there was zero abstinence in Venezuela, Maduro would've probably never been elected
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 10:53 AM
Jul 2015

This is coming from a Venezuelan, by the way

LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
11. What an absolute pile of shit
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 03:37 PM
Jul 2015

Or are you calling Jimmy Carter a liar?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dan-kovalik/us-must-recognize-venezuela_b_3103540.html

"In short, the observers' experience this past week aligns with former U.S. president Jimmy Carter's observation last year that Venezuela's electoral system is indeed the "the best in the world."

You may have legitimate issues with the strong arm tactics of Maduro and Chavez before him, and their reactions, (or over-reactions) against the international moneyed elite multi-faceted attacks on their attempts to slow the unhinged redistribution of wealth upwards over the last century in their country. But please don't compare the election system that allows international observers and oversight to a much much higher standard than the USA to that of North Korea.

Orrex

(63,221 posts)
5. Hmm... That's down four points since the last election.
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 11:22 AM
Jul 2015

I imagine that the supreme leader must be quite disappointed.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
7. I'm surprised they didn't just say 110% of the vote
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 11:50 AM
Jul 2015

They aren't that bright and afterall, it IS a bigger number... <g>

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
9. "hereditary communist dictatorship"? North Korea has NOT been Communist since the early 1960s
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 02:10 PM
Jul 2015

Technically the doctrine is "Juche", or "Self-Reliance" a very Nationalistic, doctrine the rejects the concept of a revolution of all of the workers of the world (The heart of Marxism). It is based on the extended family not class.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche

Within the North Korean Government you have a complex system of classifying people, only 25% of the population are trusted, 50% is considered willing to support ANY government (The present government or even the South Korean Government), and the remaining 25% is considered hostile to the present government of North Korea:

http://newfocusintl.com/north-koreas-hidden-power-system/



http://www.brookings.edu/research/testimony/2003/06/05northkorea-oh

pampango

(24,692 posts)
10. Good point. What do you call a "hereditary dictatorship" where the government owns everything?
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 02:36 PM
Jul 2015

"Hereditary dictators" are by nature nationalistic. They are good at controlling their own people and opposition but know that the rest of the world is a potential powerful threat to their longevity. Hence, their emphasis on 'non-interference' by others in their internal affairs.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
14. A former Soviet 152mm SP howitzer outside a BRITISH polling station
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 05:12 PM
Jul 2015
2S3 M-1973 Akatsiya 152-mm self-propelled gun howitzer tank outside the Greenwich Heritage Centre, set up as a polling station in London on May 7, 2015,

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/man-passes-2s3-m-1973-akatsiya-152-mm-photo-193335833.html
 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
17. Took me a few minutes, the English "Polling Place" with what was NOT an M109 was the question
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 07:01 PM
Jul 2015

Last edited Tue Jul 21, 2015, 09:15 AM - Edit history (1)

At first look it did NOT look like an American M109 Self Propelled Howitzer. While I operated towed 105 Howitzers I did work with the M109 at times and while the overall configuration is the same as the M109, the details were wrong. I then looked at British 155 SPs, and they did not match, then I looked at Soviet SPs, and found what I was looking for.

Since the end of the Cold War, the Russian Army has "downsized" tremendously. While a replacement for the 152mm howitzer was on the board in 1989, it still has NOT replaced the 152mm in the photo. The main 152mm Howitzer of the Russian Army today is the one shown. It is a good SP Howitzer. The former Warsaw Pact Nations traded in a lot of them for Western Howitzers, more to be compatible in ammunition (and that the US was giving away M109s as part of its modernization program, as where the Germans). Poland still has a lot of old Soviet 152mm but is slowly replacing them with new 155mm SP howitzers.

Thus a lot of these old 152mm howitzers are around, but in poor shape except for use as monuments.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
18. Yup.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 01:28 PM
Jul 2015

I've heard people who left the country have gone back into North Korea to vote, because if they don't their family could be rounded up.

I do believe that people are given a choice in the election though.

"you may drop your ballot for Kim Jong-Un in this box, or if you would like to vote against him you may hand your ballot to that group of men with AK-47's."

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
28. No no no. Every ballot is cast for Kim Il-sung
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 03:12 AM
Jul 2015

Jong-un simply manages the house and wrestles mountains whie granddad is busy fighting aliens with his burning laser-vision.

undiegrinder

(79 posts)
21. Here, we fiigure how many people went to the polls on election day ...
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:01 PM
Jul 2015

and the result is a "voter turnout" ...

North Korea figures out who DIDN'T go and the result is a "death toll."

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
19. Honestly, if you don't laugh at this you might cry.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 01:37 PM
Jul 2015

It's not just lies, but they're like Trump-style lies. So outlandish and ridiculous that you have trouble figuring out how they even live with themselves.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
20. At least the North Korean fixed elections are obvious
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 10:16 PM
Jul 2015

Ours are much slicker, harder to be sure about.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
25. I'm sure if they didn't turn out they could expect the worse
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:40 AM
Jul 2015

like the people who didn't show the appropriate amount of weeping or sorrow for his father's funeral parade.

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