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alp227

(32,064 posts)
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 09:03 PM Jul 2015

Ducey orders ban on sale of fetal tissue

Source: Arizona Republic

Gov. Doug Ducey ordered state health officials to immediately put into effect “emergency rules” to ban the illegal sale of tissue from aborted fetuses.

The Republican governor’s directive Monday came in response to footage released by an anti-abortion group that showed a Planned Parenthood executive discussing procedures for providing fetal body parts to researchers.

The group behind the undercover video, the Center for Medical Progress, has claimed Planned Parenthood violated federal laws by selling fetal tissue of aborted fetuses to medical researchers. Planned Parenthood has said that’s false and criticized the group behind the video, saying the “outrageous claims are flat-out untrue.”

The president of Planned Parenthood of Arizona has said such procedures do not occur in Arizona.

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/arizona/politics/2015/07/20/ducey-ban-sale-fetal-tissue/30428665/

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ananda

(28,879 posts)
1. So a supposed pro lifer is ..
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 09:13 PM
Jul 2015

.. banning a potentially life saving policy
just because .. why now? he wishes to
believe lies in order to destroy PP and
make women's lives even more hellish.
Right

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
5. If I understand correctly, a supposed pro-lifer is banning something
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 09:27 PM
Jul 2015

that's already illegal, and isn't being done anyway. If this wasn't happening anyway, it won't affect PP's operations at all, and will only result in no more than a day or two's worth of mildly negative press that only other pro-lifers really care about.

AngryDem001

(684 posts)
7. Why do repukes do that?
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 11:14 PM
Jul 2015

Spend money and time to ban something that is ALREADY ILLEGAL!! Geez!

Teh stoopid! It BURNS!!

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
8. Red meat to the base. I'll bet he had this in a fundraising letter
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 11:52 PM
Jul 2015

before the ink dried on the bill.

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
12. to give the impression to their mouth breathing supporters that they are doing something...
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 09:59 AM
Jul 2015

when in fact they aren't.

and to the supporters of this who have a "clue", look at this as just more butter to their already buttered bread.

their "logic" is withering in its stupidity.

ananda

(28,879 posts)
14. So the next question is:
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 12:33 PM
Jul 2015

Why is a potentially life-saving practice made illegal
and supported by pro-lifers?

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
15. Why is PP not allowed to sell fetal tissue to anyone who wants it?
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 12:37 PM
Jul 2015

Well, if you don't believe that a fetus is a human, than it's just like any other body part. I can't sell my kidney, a removed tumor or even extracted bone chips, why should a "nonviable tissue mass" be treated any differently.

ananda

(28,879 posts)
16. Logic 101
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 12:45 PM
Jul 2015

You can't sell your body parts for your own personal gain, but you can donate them if you wish.

Fetal tissue is a whole nother matter. When you think in terms of stem cell research and use, and the number of lives that could be improved or saved, the logic says: this is PRO LIFE ... yet the crazee pro lifers will make it illegal or ban it. They are nasty, ugly, shameless hypocrites.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
17. What is alleged (and what PP says is NOT happening) is that they are SELLING body parts.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 01:38 PM
Jul 2015

Not donating, SELLING... for profit. Not even asking the "donor" of that tissue or compensating them, just selling it.

As far as stem cell research goes, a vast majority of it is taking place with existing stem cell lines and is using adult, rather than embryonic, stem cells.

In any case, this isn't really about stem cells as much as it is organs, selling fetal livers, lungs and hearts to medical schools and such.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
2. There is no sale of tissue from aborted fetuses
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 09:16 PM
Jul 2015

but never let it be said that a piece of shit Republican Governor won't lie through his fucking teeth to bullshit the electorate.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,220 posts)
10. They do not sell the tissue
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 12:30 AM
Jul 2015

but it would normally be disposed as medical waste. There may be some small fee for preparing and preserving the tissue for donation.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
11. No, I realize that, just trying to parse that first paragraph.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 12:36 AM
Jul 2015

It reads like 'its banned so we'll make it illegal', dafuq?


But yes, you're right, this isn't a cash for parts thing or anything like that. It's salvaging material, which costs PP something, and that can be *reimbursed*, there is no profit whatsoever.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
6. I have a fetus on a leash
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 09:29 PM
Jul 2015

With a shorter future than my past and practicing what I preach with a sixty ton catastrophe on a ten pound chain ...

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