Why women will support Hillary on Nov 2016.

...and preferred candidates loud and clear.

Is this not also a family issue? Do women not want our support on this and on other family issues. Yes, old white guys are messing with women's ability to control their own bodies, as are many white women. But please notice, the old white guys are republicans. As a matter of respect or at least a matter of political strategy, women should assume that male democrats support them with Planned Parenthood. Women do so much for their families which include men. Most of us value that and should not be thought of as uncaring or the enemy or whatever other reason women use to exclude us from helping them.
Hillary supporters sometimes seem to have a women only fixation, why is this? In any case, it is divisive and will not succeed. Hillary Clinton will not right the wrongs done to women over many centuries, no more than election of President Obama got rid of racism. Women can choose for themselves, but many men are here to help along the way and ignoring that to pander to women voters is a terrible strategy.
I love the -I am woman, here me roar concept and I welcome it but it can be limitinng your success when you forget many of the male sex in your calls for action.

that men will have their backs.

if they had done that, they would never have gotten the right to vote.

you generally make an ass of yourself when you try to lecture women.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=448741

I suggest you take the opportunity to keep quiet from now on.

P.S. Where are O'Malley and Sanders when PP needs defending?

If they don't, well that tells me something I needed to know.

Planned Parenthood is very near and dear to my heart. I started going there as an 18 year old college student when my ob/gyn wouldn't give me a rx for birth control pills because I wasn't married. It was a great place to go for young women who wanted to control their own reproduction but didn't have any other resource due to the patriarchal attitude of most doctors back then.

Bravo, I say, bravo.

Thank you for sharing. I think.

a thousand words.

Every Democrat should stand up for a woman's right to chose!

Go Hillary

in a community Women's Health Clinic (a few years later it became affiliated with PP). We did so much--testing and treatment for STD (men and women), pap smears, mammogram, birth control planning, nutrition of new mom's and babies. breast feeding education. etc etc. . They places are needed.

I worked in the recovery room, their were no teenagers
getting abortions. (When I was there)

Teens mostly kept there babies, it was mostly married couples
who could not afford a third or fourth child. (very few singles)

I personally had all my questions answer about birth control at
PP, I thought is thorough and very interesting. (I was at UofM )

Three cheers for PP:

Thanks for standing with PP.

As a woman, she has far more credibility and power on the issue than a man.

But since Hillary is trying to win votes by being a woman, this is to be expected from her supporters. It does not matter about credibility on this issue, She cannot persuade anyone to change their positions on women's rights and planned parenthood. Hillary fixation on women turns many of us off. Being raised by my mother I never saw the attitude toward men that Hillary and her supporters seem to embrace. She is not male bashing and we get that but believing she should be president because she is a woman is altogether insulting to thinking men and women.

Ugh.



UGGHHH!!!!

O'Malley's?

ANY other presidential candidate's?

have issued statements in opposition to eating razor blades, either.

This line of "reasoning" is for shit.

Standing by these champions of women's most basic liberty--the right to control our own bodies--is not "for shit." Ask your mother.

I don't want PP to go the way of Acorn. Speaking out will help stop that. Silence is acquiescence.

Planned Parenthood is much more firmly ingrained in my memory than ACORN ever was.

Thanks for the reminder that we're all not in our late-fifties. I probably had that coming.

and those who did need to answer for it. bernie has always been a supporter of women's healthcare options and has been a champion of gender equality. no reason to think his support for pp has changed.

to get these tapes....mistake no. 1. and they spoke extremely coldly and lightheartedly about harvesting fetal organs for research. one does not have to be a forced birth gop wacko to find their tone troubling, insensitive, or even horrifying. they are still talking about early stage humans, and they are talking about a living being, even if it is still in utero and subject to the woman's discretion. it was cavalier, insensitive and strategically stupid imo.

Yes, you do have to be a forced birth wacko to feel you need to talk about such things in hushed, reverential tones.

"Cecile Richards, the president of Planned Parenthood, apologized for the callous-sounding tone of the staffers filmed in the videos..."

Quoted from further down in this thread...

She is bowing to political reality. She would not need to prostrate herself like this if PP was supported by all our Dems and all of our Dem politicians had guts. Well, at least we have Hillary.

I'll bear that in mind and keep my lady-thoughts about my lady-parts to myself. Will that help?

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Hillary has been speaking out for women and children for a long, long time.

She knows this will turn some voters off, but not the ones who are still looking for the right to make their own decisions, and not for the men who want women to be allowed to make their own decisions.

I'm hopeful all the democratic candidates will follow suit.

Thanks again, Hillary, for understanding and for being first in line to support women.

Hopefully O'Malley and Sanders will get around to doing the same--doesn't look great for them for her to be the only one doing this.

it's only a womans issue.

she is the only one who has credibility on this issue and certainly it plays into her attempt to remove support from male candidates, Democrats across the board, male and female, support Planned Parenthood, What I like about Sanders and O Malley is they will always take a progressive stand for the people, so we know where they stand on this issue. Hillary takes a number of conservative positions and it is hard to not notice these are on issues which continue to create more and more economic inequity and rewards her rich donors at the people's expense.

women who stand up for their civil rights.

So you are actually helping their case.

It's not a matter of credibility because she's a woman.

It's that no one else bothers to speak so strongly for women. Pres Obama is one of the few male politicians who does.

We would LOVE it if others showed they take women's lives seriously.

when these stories and videos come out about PP you don't hear anyone defending PP. I get requests from PP all the time for donations when these things happen, but who else is defending them. This has to stop. Abortion is legal in this country for cryin out loud.

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Hillary Clinton Defends Planned Parenthood After Sting Videos
"It’s really an attack against a woman’s right to choose."
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Posted: 07/23/2015 | Edited: 2 hours ago



Hillary Clinton spoke out for the first time Thursday about the undercover videos of Planned Parenthood doctors discussing the donation of fetal tissue, calling political attacks on the family planning provider "an attack on women's right to choose."

"I think it is unfortunate that Planned Parenthood has been the object of such a concerted attack for so many years," the Democratic presidential candidate said at a campaign event in Greenville, South Carolina. "And it’s really an attack against a woman’s right to choose, to make the most personal, difficult decisions that any woman would face, based on her faith and the medical advice that she’s given."

An anti-abortion group called the Center for Medical Progress created a fake tissue procurement company in order to trick Planned Parenthood doctors into meeting with them to discuss the donation of fetal body parts for science. Undercover actors filmed Planned Parenthood staffers discussing reimbursement for tissue specimens and explaining how doctors would carefully perform an abortion to preserve the fetal organs.

Anti-abortion activists and Republicans in Congress believe the heavily edited videos show Planned Parenthood illegally selling fetal tissue after abortions, and they have called for a federal investigation into the family planning provider. Planned Parenthood, meanwhile, says the videos are misleading, and that what they actually show are doctors discussing the legal, not-for-profit donation of tissue for the purposes of medical research.



Cecile Richards, the president of Planned Parenthood, apologized for the callous-sounding tone of the staffers filmed in the videos, but maintained that the videos did not show her organization doing anything illegal.

The founder of the Center for Medical Progress, David Daleiden, previously worked for the anti-abortion group Live Action, which has been secretly filming Planned Parenthood for years in an attempt to catch its staffers performing illegal activities.

While previous "sting" videos did not lead to any legal action against Planned Parenthood, the new videos have prompted Republicans in Congress, including presidential candidates Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and Ted Cruz (R-Texas), to escalate their efforts to strip federal family planning funding from the nation's largest provider.

Clinton defended Planned Parenthood, saying it "remains a very important part of the whole healthcare delivery system, particularly, but not exclusively, for poor women."

But Clinton also acknowledged she does not know the specifics of this particular case.

"I don’t have all the facts," she said, "but Planned Parenthood has apologized for the insensitivity of the employee that was taped, and they will continue to answer questions from Congress and others."

Earlier On HuffPost:

Can't wait to hear about her views on eating live monkey brains.

Let me guess: she's firmly against it, correct?

no explanation would suffice.

no good at all with bullshit like this.

that Clinton be swamped with accolades for stating the obvious?

I'll thank you not to presume how I can best support my candidate.

If you think Clinton can unequivocally assert that babies are cute and expect that it will reflect badly on Sanders if he fails to echo the sentiment, I have reason to suspect your understanding of the issues.

Good Lord. Spare me.

why the two male candidates are ducking it.

Bernie had time to comment about Ed Schultz's show being cancelled. He certainly could stand up for Planned Parenthood if properly motivated.

Instead, we got stuff like this:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/17/politics/planned-parenthood-video-bernie-sanders/

Clinton is saying the stuff we wish Bernie was saying. Unfortunately, he's not.

that women are less capable than men of being able to do their own research on candidates' positions, and need to be spoon-fed sound bites on the same?

Because that's how your comment reads...

"...why the two male candidates are ducking it."

Need I say more?

...snark while you're at it? It really, really made no sense.

You can do that, right?

fear of offending working white class men?

this does not speak well to their willingness to stand up for women when the chips are down.

Explain this, please.

Will the candidate stand up for women's rights, or duck and cover?

If O'Malley and Sanders want to argue that they'll be as strong on advocating and defending women's rights as Clinton, they need to step up their game.

Because right now she's pretty clearly outclassing them on this.

Planned Parenthood is in real danger of getting ACORNed.

of whether the candidates need to explicitly state where they stand on issues (e.g., puppies=cute, eating live monkey brains=bad) and whether Clinton should be afforded any particular gravitas courtesy of her gender.

As far as PP is concerned, I'm not too worried. Pissed about the recent smear attempts--certainly. Worried--no.

they will stick by those beliefs under duress

O'malley and Sanders are failing that test here, just as Clinton failed it on the TPP.

But ... when you get right down to it ... this is some fairly mealy-mouthed hedging going on right here:

But Clinton also acknowledged she does not know the specifics of this particular case.

"I don’t have all the facts," she said, "but Planned Parenthood has apologized for the insensitivity of the employee that was taped, and they will continue to answer questions from Congress and others."

So ... THAT ... is supposed to be the gold standard of 'leadership on behalf of women'?

I mean, 'WE' (us DU types) pretty much already know the 'details', right? We all know who's behind this ... the same people as who were behind the ACORN videos, right? But somehow ... she's still 'in the dark'?

Fact is, she not only left the door open for the possibility that she could change her mind about the whole thing, but she also granted the entire subject 'merit' it absolutely does NOT deserve. Kinda like she did in 2002 from the Senate Floor ...

Sorry, but you can color me UN-impressed.

Meanwhile, not a word of defense from Sanders. In fact, he just joined the piling on against PP, saying PP was "terribly wrong."
http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2015/07/planned-parenthood-sting-videos-explained

I gave my opinion and you decided to interpret from there. That's entirely your problem.

"Bernie supporters do their candidate no good at all with bullshit like this."

Sounds pretty presumptuous to me.

Absolutely nothing other than being of the opinion Bernie supporters don't do their candidate any good with bullshit like this? I don't even know why I'm arguing with you about this. I simply don't care enough about this to take any more time.

Yes, the Fox narrative is false, but many Dems fear these sting videos might have something to them--those Dems have no faith in PP.

When you're in the hot seat is when you find out who your friends are--and which one of them have guts.

Is someone who you feel we can 100% 'count on' as a 'friend'?

Well, I'm glad that YOU have that kind of faith.

Personally, I remember 2002 a little bit too well to just up and ASSUME what 'I don't have all the facts ... ' actually means to Hillary Clinton.

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I'm a little bit disappointed in his not saying anything on the subject (so far), but I bet $$$ to donuts that at some point we'll find him proffering a very spirited defense of PP. And I suspect it will be one that does not hedge his bets with 'I don't have all the facts'.

Could be wrong, but that's my bet.

But trying to make the point that 'its because he's a man' (as some have done on this thread) as if NO Democrat who's male is going strongly stand up for women's reproductive rights (and that by extension all lady Dems *need* to rally around Hillary) is both a divisive and a disingenuous line of argument ... IMHO.

There's PLENTY of us guys who COMPLETELY, and 100% ... HAVE YOUR BACKS when it comes to this subject! And I think you can count on Bernie to have your back on this every bit as much as Hillary, even if he's not waded into the fray on this just yet.

they are top drawer in my book!

With a swift response.

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I stopped giving to the national long ago...They only play defense...here are my suggestions

(I only to the regional groups which provides services....in my case, Rocky Mountain PP)

PP needs a much better PR machine...They and other groups really have dropped the ball for YEARS.

They used to run ads addressing "privacy in the bedroom" but have just gone to defense...

They should point out the hypocrisy of the GOP re: lots of unwanted babies and their policies re: feeding them and allowing acces to health care

They should point out the hypocrisy of the GOP with regard to denying birth control access.

They should point out the hypocrisy of "small government" vs. shoving probes up women and demanding medically unnecessary
ultrasounds.

They should point out the hypocrisy of Hobby Lobby not wanting to provide birth control to employees because of "religious" beliefs, while they are invested in companies that make the morning after pill.

They should point out the hypocrisy of abortion being in the insurance provided by the RNC, which they then pulled when someone got wind of it.

They should aggressively go after this "partial birth abortion" crap...again, losing the battle on language, as the left often does as well. It's not "partial birth abortion," there is NO SUCH THING...It's called......SURGERY! Of course, Democrats let this thing go on all the time, so no help there...so it's up to Cecile Richards to act more like her mother!!

I could think of other things that they need to go after so they go on OFFENSE!

I wrote a letter eons ago to NARAL....no response.

The big national offices are not doing the job....and where is NOW??

There are a couple of organization that actually fund travel and expenses.

Why don't these groups all have a summit and divide up the tasks...services, travel, legal, etc.

They are absolutely losing this battle and they don't show any real effort to turn it around.

Court is nice, but the court of public opinion has to be considered too!

THEY NEED TO MOUNT A CAMPAIGN TO DISCREDIT critics, like the critics do to discredit PP!

How about you email a letter to the editor of a major newspaper and help them out with some free PR?

I think this is one of those times to break out the pen and paper. Write to your senators, representatives and the president. Write letters to the editor of your local newspaper, and if at all possible, make a donation.

The thing that really burns me up is that women with money will always be able to get a safe, legal abortion, even if they have to travel to another country. By making abortion illegal or stripping funding from Planned Parenthood, all they are really doing is denying safe, legal abortions and healthcare to POOR women.

at a large in-state university many young women went to Planned Parenthood for exams/contraceptives. Especially women who did not come from wealthy families with guaranteed medical insurance or parents paying their bills for them. To this day I support them and I'm glad to see Hillary does too.

Good.

Done!