Drudge is saying there are at least nine ready to be revealed, so this order that covers only three only covers a third of them.

Anyway, let them be seen. Let the people decide for themselves what is shown, and how fair it all is. This is America.

Frist, you mentioned "Drudge", which has almost the same effect around here as saying "Fox".
Second, you dare to suggest that these videos be released because it may make somebody look bad!

BTW, Drudge is a fucking liar. That's why people here don't like him. Same thing with Fox.

MAybe posts a sensationalist headline sometimes, but big whoop. Just because he provides links to stories you dont like doesnt mean shit. And most of those links are NOT to RW news sites.
Drudge & Fox are 2 different animals.
I dont know why you'd think I "dont like DU", I enjoy a lot of DU; thats why I've been here for years. I just think its silly how so many heads explode at the mere mention of either of them. But there are also a lot of folks here that have a fine sense of humor & some good ideas

Careful selection of links that tell the false story he wants to tell.

Most every site like his does the exact same thing; post links to stories at other sources. Hell, we do it here on DU! Plenty of news doesnt get posted here because the majority wouldnt like it.
You obviously dont go to his site, which is absolutely fine.

He doesn't just put whatever is news up. He chooses the stories, usually links to the Washington Times, Fox, and Newsmax with exaggerated and excitable headlines.

Took some folks like a minute "to decide" what that was all about!

Time to decide is what the propagandists need to complete their smear and defund PP like they did ACORN, when too many were conned over time.

Took me only a minute to again decide this was ACORN Redux, because I know the source of the distorted videos, just another distorted RW propaganda machine funded by GOP political operatives, and I do not suffer from amnesia or distraction.

And this is identical to ACORn, identical, so what is there to decide?

How much time does anyone need to decide to fight back, now?

what I've seen.

I don't need anyone deciding for me, telling me what to think, and I would hope most people share that view.

violent anti-abortion group with violent members with a criminal record....I am telling this because it is the truth the mass media refuse to tell.....why would anyone need to know more....why does anyone need to watch distorted videos manufactured for propaganda without a shred of truth.


http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/07/21/the-extreme-and-violent-background-of-the-group/204519

clear violation of first amendment

let the videos come out. if pp says they are authentic, then let them stand behind what they said. of they can't do that, then i would want to know why

It's that people don't get the chance to see if they are real or not. So when they are suppressed, people can still wonder if they're real. Doubt bubbles under the surface. They can only be exposed and debunked if they are available for people to see. They have to be exposed to be disproven.

It's a pretty narrow temporary restraining order related to violating the privacy of the non-PP employees/patients.

I don't think that even that is likely to succeed. It's possible that someone will be able to sue for damages, but not likely that they'll be able to block the release of the videos entirely.

Logically if the distorted videos were possibly taken illegally and are possibly causing harm, then more distorted videos have to be stopped now so a judge can hear full argument before granting a full injunction against release...that is how temporary restraint orders work.

The lawyers for PP have obviously made out a prima facie case of illegality and irreparable harm against the James O'Keefe prodigy, so your legal analysis I am afraid is just wrong. I am familiar with the legal issues surrounding temporary injunctions, they are complex, so that is why we have lawyers and judges.

There is no magical protection against maliciousness because you put your evil on tape!

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The TRO had nothing at all to do with whether or not the videos were distorted.

Fox and a few other sources mis-reported the TRO as blocking further video releases... but this TRO is limited only to release of video footage of three specific StemExpress officials. It doesn't bar release of other videos (distorted or otherwise). In fact, I understand that a 4th video was released today. It reportedly doesn't include StemExpress employees and (supposedly) wasn't filmed in California - and thus wouldn't be covered by the TRO. StemExpress and Planned Parenthood reportedly made some arguments along the lines of what you're claiming, but those were all rejected by the court (or, at least, rejected as sufficient grounds for the court to issue a broader TRO in anticipation of trial).

The lawyers for PP have obviously made out a prima facie case of illegality and irreparable harm

Not even that I'm afraid (ignoring the fact that PP isn't even party to this action). Their initial petition was rejected and their follow-up petition was mostly rejected. There remained a piece that might be carried to a larger hearing/trial, but right now it's just a TRO pending a response from the other side.