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muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts) Thu Jul 30, 2015, 12:29 PM Jul 2015

Jerusalem Gay Pride: Six stabbed 'by ultra-Orthodox Jew'

Last edited Thu Jul 30, 2015, 01:02 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: BBC

Police have arrested a man after six people were wounded in a stabbing at the Gay Pride parade in Jerusalem.

A police spokesperson told the BBC that the suspect was the same man who stabbed four people at the parade in 2005.

Yishai Schlissel, an ultra-Orthodox Jew, was sentenced to 12 years in prison for that attack and was released from prison three weeks ago.

Two of the injured are in a serious condition, the ambulance service said.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-33726634

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Jerusalem Gay Pride: Six stabbed 'by ultra-Orthodox Jew' (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 OP

That's terrible. The LGBTQ community should not R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #1

So different than Reform Jews, who were among the first to perform lgbt marriages... Nt JudyM Jul 2015 #2

they won't call it terrorism because it was ultra-orthodox instead of a Palestinian perp geek tragedy Jul 2015 #3

If the attacker had been Palestinian R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #10

Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #13

But it was a terrorist attack none-the-less dbackjon Jul 2015 #11

Absolutely, you are correct. nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #14

Yup. closeupready Jul 2015 #15

Fanaticism is a shit stain on humanity Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #4

Conservative Judaism also embraces our lgbt brothers and sisters Danmel Jul 2015 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author 6chars Jul 2015 #6

Isn't religion wonderful? It adds so much to the human experience. /s WestSeattle2 Jul 2015 #7

If god hadn't invented religion, we'd have to have something like the republican party or KKK. erronis Jul 2015 #9

Huh? shenmue Jul 2015 #26

Asshole leftynyc Jul 2015 #8

Yup! Behind the Aegis Jul 2015 #12

I'm sure many gay Palestinians feel precisely the same way (nt) shaayecanaan Jul 2015 #20

We know gay Israelis do. n/t Behind the Aegis Jul 2015 #23

Perhaps that was too subtle shaayecanaan Jul 2015 #25

Oh, I thought you were talking about an attack at a pride march in Ramallah. Behind the Aegis Jul 2015 #27

How was this guy not being watched, stranger81 Jul 2015 #16

How do you differentiate "Ultra" from regular Orthodox? maxsolomon Jul 2015 #17

Haredi Judaism has nothing to do with modern orthodox Judaism hack89 Jul 2015 #18

thanks, now i know! maxsolomon Jul 2015 #21

The basics: muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #19

"So you're my Onkel Yishai? Better get used to those bars, kid." Aristus Jul 2015 #22

can he stay in prison for life now, please? Sunlei Jul 2015 #24

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)

1. That's terrible. The LGBTQ community should not

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 12:33 PM

Jul 2015

Have to endure this shit anywhere!

JudyM

(29,251 posts)

2. So different than Reform Jews, who were among the first to perform lgbt marriages... Nt

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 12:34 PM

Jul 2015

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)

3. they won't call it terrorism because it was ultra-orthodox instead of a Palestinian perp

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 12:35 PM

Jul 2015

Funny how that works.

Fundamentalism kills.

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)

10. If the attacker had been Palestinian

Reply to geek tragedy (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 01:15 PM

Jul 2015

They probably would have ben shot.

Response to R. Daneel Olivaw (Reply #10)

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dbackjon

(6,578 posts)

11. But it was a terrorist attack none-the-less

Reply to geek tragedy (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 01:19 PM

Jul 2015

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)

14. Absolutely, you are correct. nt

Reply to dbackjon (Reply #11)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 01:24 PM

Jul 2015

closeupready

(29,503 posts)

15. Yup.

Reply to geek tragedy (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 01:49 PM

Jul 2015

Funny also how you and I are of the same minds these days on lots of current events, lol.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)

4. Fanaticism is a shit stain on humanity

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 12:35 PM

Jul 2015

No matter where we find it.

Danmel

(4,916 posts)

5. Conservative Judaism also embraces our lgbt brothers and sisters

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 12:36 PM

Jul 2015

Conservative when it comes to Judaism is not conservative in the political sense.

Response to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

6chars This message was self-deleted by its author.

WestSeattle2

(1,730 posts)

7. Isn't religion wonderful? It adds so much to the human experience. /s

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 12:43 PM

Jul 2015

erronis

(15,303 posts)

9. If god hadn't invented religion, we'd have to have something like the republican party or KKK.

Reply to WestSeattle2 (Reply #7)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 01:10 PM

Jul 2015

shenmue

(38,506 posts)

26. Huh?

Reply to erronis (Reply #9)

Fri Jul 31, 2015, 12:13 AM

Jul 2015

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)

8. Asshole

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 12:49 PM

Jul 2015

Glad he got arrested. In some places, he would have been given a parade.

Behind the Aegis

(53,959 posts)

12. Yup!

Reply to leftynyc (Reply #8)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 01:23 PM

Jul 2015

This type of behavior is repulsive, just like those who use it to springboard into their own repulsive attacks.

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)

20. I'm sure many gay Palestinians feel precisely the same way (nt)

Reply to Behind the Aegis (Reply #12)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 02:49 PM

Jul 2015

Behind the Aegis

(53,959 posts)

23. We know gay Israelis do. n/t

Reply to shaayecanaan (Reply #20)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 08:44 PM

Jul 2015

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)

25. Perhaps that was too subtle

Reply to Behind the Aegis (Reply #23)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 11:46 PM

Jul 2015

I meant that many gay Palestinians must resent the fact that their fragile position within their own society is used as a "springboard" by those who hate Palestinians to de-legitimise the national aspirations of all Palestinian people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinkwashing_(LGBT)#Israeli_government_public_relations

Behind the Aegis

(53,959 posts)

27. Oh, I thought you were talking about an attack at a pride march in Ramallah.

Reply to shaayecanaan (Reply #25)

Fri Jul 31, 2015, 12:16 AM

Jul 2015

Is this attack on gay Israelis an example of "pinkwashing?" If not, how is it relevant to the story of Israeli gays being assaulted?

stranger81

(2,345 posts)

16. How was this guy not being watched,

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 02:08 PM

Jul 2015

given that he did exactly the same thing at exactly the same event just a few years ago?

A terrible tragedy. My heat goes out to the victims and their friends and families.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)

17. How do you differentiate "Ultra" from regular Orthodox?

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 02:22 PM

Jul 2015

Are the getups even less appropriate for the climate? Are the beards longer? Or does he just exude Orthodoxy to a greater degree?

Great timing, correctional systerm. At best, he should have been home with an ankle bracelet monitor during this event.

hack89

(39,171 posts)

18. Haredi Judaism has nothing to do with modern orthodox Judaism

Reply to maxsolomon (Reply #17)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 02:30 PM

Jul 2015

Haredi Judaism (Hebrew: חֲרֵדִי Ḥaredi, IPA: [?aʁeˈdi]; also spelled Charedi, plural Charedim) is a stream of Orthodox Judaism characterized by rejection of modern secular culture.[1] Its members are often referred to as strictly Orthodox or ultra-Orthodox in English. However the term "ultra-Orthodox" is considered a derogatory slur by some in the community. Haredim regard themselves as the most religiously authentic group of Jews,[2] and although this claim is contested by other streams, it is a perception which is often held in wider Jewish society.[3][4]

Haredi Judaism emerged in response to the sweeping changes brought upon the Jews in the modern era: emancipation, Enlightenment and the Haskalah movement derived from it, acculturation, secularization, religious Reform in all its forms, Jewish nationalism etc.[5] In contrast to Modern Orthodox Judaism, which hastened to embrace modernity, the approach of the Haredim was to maintain a steadfast adherence to Jewish religious law by segregating itself from modern society

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haredi_Judaism