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RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 03:56 PM Jul 2015

BREAKING: White House considers extradition of Cecil lion killer Walter Palmer

Source: Express

The White House is to review a public petition to extradite Walter Palmer, who killed Cecil the lion, paving the way for the American dentist to be sent back to Africa to face charges.

The petition has exceeded 100,000 signatures and US government officials said it was now up to the justice department to respond to the extradition order.

Cecil's death is currently being investigated by Zimbabwean authorities and the US Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS).

In a statement released on Thursday, the organisation said: "We are currently gathering facts about the issue and will assist Zimbabwe officials in whatever manner requested. At this point in time, however, multiple efforts to contact Dr Walter Palmer have been unsuccessful."

Read more: http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/595028/White-House-extradition-Cecil-lion-killer-Walter-Palmer

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BREAKING: White House considers extradition of Cecil lion killer Walter Palmer (Original Post) RKP5637 Jul 2015 OP
Where is this guy? Still in Zimbabwe? EEO Jul 2015 #1
Someone said they thought he was up in Canada now, but who knows. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2015 #3
Canada also has an extradition treaty with Zimbabwe. n/t totodeinhere Jul 2015 #75
That's great to hear!!! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2015 #92
I know there is a posse out looking for him: dixiegrrrrl Jul 2015 #106
I wonder if he's a jogger! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2015 #113
wherever he is Skittles Jul 2015 #38
Ha passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #52
:D C Moon Jul 2015 #55
Yep. (nt) paleotn Jul 2015 #61
Love it. 840high Jul 2015 #65
Won't disagree with that sentiment. As the human, he should have known better. EEO Jul 2015 #74
I just love it when cowards get a taste of their own medicine Skittles Jul 2015 #79
I'm fascinated by the reactions people are having musiclawyer Jul 2015 #73
interesting analysis flamingdem Aug 2015 #124
Great News Politicalboi Jul 2015 #2
I believe the maximum sentence for poaching is 15 years, but I would be okay with that ... Auggie Jul 2015 #4
I'm not sure if it would be justice to sentence him to prison for 15 years though. cstanleytech Jul 2015 #59
I don't think he'd survive too long outside the walls of prison magical thyme Jul 2015 #100
I don't think he would live too long in an..... Bonhomme Richard Jul 2015 #45
But then again.... Capt.Rocky300 Jul 2015 #53
Visions of Marathon Man Demeter Jul 2015 #81
I don't think they let inmates have sharp metal dental instruments... Elmer S. E. Dump Jul 2015 #115
Extradition requires the approval of both the executive and judicial branch. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #5
Even if there's an extradition treaty in place already? Aristus Jul 2015 #13
we do have a treaty with them. nt restorefreedom Jul 2015 #29
Yes there is one in force... PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #33
Well which is it? Thor_MN Jul 2015 #51
Since both the Executive branch and Judicial branch need to approve an extradition request PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #56
Should the decision to extradite be driven by a petition? 6chars Aug 2015 #126
ummmmm melm00se Jul 2015 #6
I know thats what the petion answer will be, no one has charged him with any crime. Sunlei Jul 2015 #14
Turn him over to Mugabe! Give him to Mugabe!!!! bluestateguy Jul 2015 #7
are you sure that money doesn't buy you innocence? hollysmom Jul 2015 #12
As someone posted a few days ago it would be nice if folks would be at least as concerned when still_one Jul 2015 #8
make a petition at the white house, its very easy for anyone to do. Sunlei Jul 2015 #11
are you kidding heaven05 Jul 2015 #15
Ding ding ding. L0oniX Jul 2015 #18
I'm actually quite capable of doing both bluestateguy Jul 2015 #22
It always seems that there are people on this forum that are so damn stupid... Frank Cannon Jul 2015 #109
^^ this Myrina Jul 2015 #117
We are Polly Hennessey Jul 2015 #24
many of us are capable of emotional multitasking restorefreedom Jul 2015 #32
And drones killing civilians!! pocoloco Jul 2015 #44
Believe it or not, arikara Jul 2015 #54
That's silly. It's not an either/or. I am brokenhearted about Cecil. Zen Democrat Jul 2015 #58
Can't you be concerned about both? 840high Jul 2015 #66
I am. Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #84
People can mentally walk and chew gum at the same time Adenoid_Hynkel Jul 2015 #97
+a million and thank you. nt magical thyme Jul 2015 #101
need more sigs please!! and President Obama said all WH petions will be answered. Sunlei Jul 2015 #9
Good, I hope he heaven05 Jul 2015 #10
At the risk of sounding like a sinsei, the predator seems to have become the prey rocktivity Jul 2015 #16
So they can send him but not Cheney? postulater Jul 2015 #17
Ding ding ding. L0oniX Jul 2015 #19
I see the usual critics are unimpressed BeyondGeography Jul 2015 #20
did you post this link hopemountain Jul 2015 #62
thanks very much for this! MBS Jul 2015 #69
It's a keeper, and you're most welcome BeyondGeography Jul 2015 #70
YES!! MBS Jul 2015 #77
on the same theme. . MBS Jul 2015 #83
+100 BeyondGeography Jul 2015 #93
GOOD Skittles Jul 2015 #21
And they are cowards. They go out armed to the teeth against defenseless animals. I have absolutley RKP5637 Jul 2015 #25
anyone who finds killing entertaining is a coward Skittles Jul 2015 #26
I grew up near some hunters, it was always a WTF to me. My father used to tell me how RKP5637 Jul 2015 #31
it's disgusting Skittles Jul 2015 #35
Well said. narnian60 Jul 2015 #48
THIS. nt navarth Jul 2015 #68
There is some truth in the starvation point RichVRichV Jul 2015 #71
Many a family in Michigan lives through the winter on venison in the freezer Demeter Jul 2015 #82
I eat deer also RichVRichV Jul 2015 #85
THANK YOU Skittles Jul 2015 #87
Like any predator, wolves will go after the easiest prey TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #122
It's amazing how nature tends to reach an equilibrium when we're not messing with it. RichVRichV Aug 2015 #123
+1 million darkangel218 Jul 2015 #102
Recommended FOREVER! LeftOfWest Jul 2015 #110
see, I EAT EVERYTHING I KILL!!! Skittles Jul 2015 #111
Like Donald Trump's sons used to do. moonscape Jul 2015 #112
Yeeessss!!!! TheCowsCameHome Jul 2015 #23
I wonder how he feels. Like a worthless POS I hope. I hope he feels threatened, constantly RKP5637 Jul 2015 #28
Ahhhhh, Polly Hennessey Jul 2015 #30
Same here! Definitely! This asshole is getting a taste of his own medicine. Not everyone sees RKP5637 Jul 2015 #34
Yes, please. Warpy Jul 2015 #27
that number again is 1800 extraditethescumbag restorefreedom Jul 2015 #36
I read the best idea for how to punish him for his crime. LynneSin Jul 2015 #37
That, is a very positive approach to all of this, and he might in fact learn something about RKP5637 Jul 2015 #40
I like this... dhill926 Jul 2015 #42
great idea! alterfurz Jul 2015 #49
I agree Stargazer09 Jul 2015 #104
maybe he could remain hopemountain Jul 2015 #60
Yeah, although I like the idea, I too wonder if it's a cure. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2015 #94
A sadist like him wouldn't get anywhere near my mouth. Myrina Jul 2015 #118
You and I have choices for dentist LynneSin Jul 2015 #119
'Considers' is the operative word here swilton Jul 2015 #39
Yep! A fuzzy word with lots of wiggle room. Sounds familiar! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2015 #41
What a poorly written article. former9thward Jul 2015 #43
The article did not claim there is an extradition order. LanternWaste Jul 2015 #46
I guess we are reading two different articles. former9thward Jul 2015 #47
Nothing is going to happen either still_one Jul 2015 #57
Who's squealing now? Helen Borg Jul 2015 #50
Palmer belongs in a Zimbabwe jail for a long time Joey Liberal Jul 2015 #63
I have a problem extraditing ANYONE to Mugabe. roamer65 Jul 2015 #64
A POS and Butcher sent to a POS 840high Jul 2015 #67
That is not our problem bluestateguy Jul 2015 #76
There has been no extradition request. former9thward Jul 2015 #88
yes I know bluestateguy Jul 2015 #96
I seriously doubt any charges will be filed. former9thward Jul 2015 #108
Sad, but very true. roamer65 Jul 2015 #114
I am perfectly fine with sending him to Mugabe. totodeinhere Jul 2015 #78
Non-story: the White House "reviews" every petition alcibiades_mystery Jul 2015 #72
no, they have answered every petition that met the sig. requirements. and even some that did not. Sunlei Jul 2015 #91
Fresh Meat! Legacy! Here, Prezzy, prezzy, prezzy! Demeter Jul 2015 #80
Dr. Pissant Palmer donated to Mittens. nt magical thyme Jul 2015 #103
For Romney. nt msanthrope Jul 2015 #107
Now the Justice Department has 30? days to respond to petition. Sunlei Jul 2015 #86
And they will say: former9thward Jul 2015 #89
I know. There are no 'charges' from any country. Sunlei Jul 2015 #90
Yep, that is what will likely happen. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2015 #95
And now he becomes the hunted. complain jane Jul 2015 #98
I didn't think they'd do it. I was #36 or 37 on the petition magical thyme Jul 2015 #99
Yeah, umm.. no. 1) There's no extraditable charge levied. 2) We're unlikely to extradite.. X_Digger Jul 2015 #105
I agree. djg21 Aug 2015 #121
Damn well better extradite him. Myrina Jul 2015 #116
Good. Now, how about Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Yoo, et al? Scuba Jul 2015 #120
Where's Walter? Aerows Aug 2015 #125

EEO

(1,620 posts)
1. Where is this guy? Still in Zimbabwe?
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 03:57 PM
Jul 2015

Zimbabwe Unable to Locate Impotent White American in Possession of Lion's Head - See more at: http://www.theniladmirari.com/#sthash.B76V63G9.dpuf

musiclawyer

(2,335 posts)
73. I'm fascinated by the reactions people are having
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:22 PM
Jul 2015

I know of two level headed, law abiding boomers, with education and assets, and local community regard who have told me they would "kill" this guy in cold blood if they had a chance and could get away with it. I believe them. There is something this horrific act has triggered in the vestigial brain. I think this guy is dead man walking and knows it. We humans have an awe of animals and the natural order that we rarely admit. This act hit that nerve.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
124. interesting analysis
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 02:03 AM
Aug 2015

I think your use of hit a nerve was perfect considering the killer was a dentist 😉

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
2. Great News
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:00 PM
Jul 2015

I hope he spends his life in an African prison. Although I would rather see him chased by a pride of lions.

Auggie

(31,173 posts)
4. I believe the maximum sentence for poaching is 15 years, but I would be okay with that ...
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:02 PM
Jul 2015

15 years in an African prison would probably feel like a lifetime anyway.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
59. I'm not sure if it would be justice to sentence him to prison for 15 years though.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 06:01 PM
Jul 2015

Now sentencing him to 10 to 15 years of having to live in the country and have him travel to the varies rural towns and villages to provide his dental services at no charge sounds very much like justice.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
100. I don't think he'd survive too long outside the walls of prison
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 10:09 PM
Jul 2015

he's made himself a bucketload of enemies in the world.

Aristus

(66,384 posts)
13. Even if there's an extradition treaty in place already?
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:10 PM
Jul 2015

Do we have an extradition treaty with Zimbabwe?

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
33. Yes there is one in force...
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:53 PM
Jul 2015

Copy of the treaty: https://www.congress.gov/105/cdoc/tdoc33/CDOC-105tdoc33.pdf

It appears to have the usual "if the crime is a crime in both countries" requirement.

Either the executive branch or the judicial branch of the US can stop an extradition.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
51. Well which is it?
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 05:42 PM
Jul 2015

You have cited two criteria now. That both Executive Branch and Judicial need to approve and that either can stop.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
56. Since both the Executive branch and Judicial branch need to approve an extradition request
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 05:49 PM
Jul 2015

if either doesn't approve the request the extradition doesn't happen.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
126. Should the decision to extradite be driven by a petition?
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 04:25 AM
Aug 2015

I am not so comfortable with that. But I guess the executive branch can do what it wants.

melm00se

(4,993 posts)
6. ummmmm
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:05 PM
Jul 2015

until this:

Mr Palmer has not been charged in Zimbabwe or the United States.


changes and a request for extradition is delivered to the appropriate authorities, the US government can't ship Mr. Palmer off to Zimbabwe.

still_one

(92,217 posts)
8. As someone posted a few days ago it would be nice if folks would be at least as concerned when
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:07 PM
Jul 2015

African Americans are abused and killed by law enforcement

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
15. are you kidding
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:12 PM
Jul 2015

never happen, not in this godforsaken country. Racism is a tool needed by those who are fooled into thinking they are superior and a tool for those who encourage those who think they are racially superior.

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
109. It always seems that there are people on this forum that are so damn stupid...
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 02:43 AM
Jul 2015

that they are incapable of having opinions on two different subjects at once. And they always expect others to be equally dense.

It's a theme that appears over and over and over again in posts on this board. It's very curious.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
32. many of us are capable of emotional multitasking
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:53 PM
Jul 2015

while i bet some of us can even walk and chew gum at the same time.

surely you are not suggesting we are incapable of being incensed by multiple atrocities....

arikara

(5,562 posts)
54. Believe it or not,
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 05:44 PM
Jul 2015

people are upset about people being killed too. No offence meant but this thread is about the lion and they are different issues.

Zen Democrat

(5,901 posts)
58. That's silly. It's not an either/or. I am brokenhearted about Cecil.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 05:55 PM
Jul 2015

I am inflamed in outrage over what's going on in law enforcement regarding the killing and abuse of African-Americans. It seems like an underground cabal of white-supremacist cops.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
84. I am.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 08:32 PM
Jul 2015

I think this "eater of souls" rw culture of hate and killing and indifference to suffering is all on a similar spectrum.

I wish there was the same level of international outcry though over the police killings of Black people though.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
97. People can mentally walk and chew gum at the same time
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 09:57 PM
Jul 2015

Last I checked, this site has been loaded with threads taking on the issue of blacks being killed by racist cops. Protests have been happening nationwide. The Obama administration has pursued the issue as well.

The whole "You're mad at about this, but not _______" bit is just as pathetic coming from the left as it is coming from the right.

Attacking people for their passion about their issue isn't going to win them to your issue.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
16. At the risk of sounding like a sinsei, the predator seems to have become the prey
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:17 PM
Jul 2015

From the Twelfth Annual "You Call This NEWS?" Awards

[div style="text-align:center"]FIRST RUNNER UP

Corey Knowlton, who won auction to kill endangered black rhino, now fears for his life
Media Source: Raw Story
Posted by: Judi Lynn

Best Post (Other Than Mine): "How's it feel, f*cker?"
-- Tabasco


rocktivity

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
20. I see the usual critics are unimpressed
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:23 PM
Jul 2015

Time to dust off Frank Schaeffer again, who saw it all coming in early 2008:

Obama is the chef who opens a new restaurant and serves honest good and beautifully prepared food made of the most wholesome ingredients only to have the food critic pan his offerings as "all too ordinary." "Where," asks the seen-it-all jaded bored critic, "are the calf's brains marinated in truffle-soaked baby duck's testicles?"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/this-good-friday-let-us-n_b_92645.html

MBS

(9,688 posts)
69. thanks very much for this!
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:08 PM
Jul 2015

I hadn't seen it the first time around, and it's depressingly all too relevant.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
25. And they are cowards. They go out armed to the teeth against defenseless animals. I have absolutley
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:48 PM
Jul 2015

no use, no respect for these asses.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
31. I grew up near some hunters, it was always a WTF to me. My father used to tell me how
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:52 PM
Jul 2015

horrible it was when they (not he) skinned bears. They call it sport. I call it a sickness.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
35. it's disgusting
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:55 PM
Jul 2015

very rarely will they admit they love to kill - they'll go on about hypocrisy if you eat meat, how these poor creatures would starve if they weren't out there slaughtering them, even about how their FEES help with conservation!!! - they won't admit I LOVE STALKING AND KILLING DEFENSELESS CREATURES

RichVRichV

(885 posts)
71. There is some truth in the starvation point
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:15 PM
Jul 2015

though it's technically a half truth. We've wiped out the wolf population in much of the country. This has led to an explosion in the deer population (as well as some other animals). And without the wolves to keep them in check the deer can over breed to the point of mass starvation.

Now the logical fix to restore balance would be to simply reintroduce wolves and let them clean it up as they always did before we came along. However farmers will have none of that (wolves also kill livestock). Besides wolves are scary (we'll ignore the fact that wolf attacks on humans are nearly non-existant).

No, us being who we are, we came up with a much more American way to solve the problem while simultaniously getting our blood lust fill. We'll mass shoot the deer so they don't mass die to starvation.

It's actually brilliant if you think about it.









Too over the top?

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
82. Many a family in Michigan lives through the winter on venison in the freezer
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 08:00 PM
Jul 2015

Deer is a form of cow for this state...as well as sport.

RichVRichV

(885 posts)
85. I eat deer also
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 08:33 PM
Jul 2015

even though I don't hunt. I'm not condemning anyone for hunting. Just pointing some facts out.


It's not nescessary to hunt. We moved from a hunter gatherer society thousands of years ago. We are fully capable of feeding everyone without hunting. That doesn't stop the drive many people have to hunt.


I think some people are just asking for honesty on hunting. People hunt because they enjoy it and they hunt because some animals we like to eat aren't suitable to being livestock. That's really all there is to it. There is no greater noble cause to hunting.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
87. THANK YOU
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 08:52 PM
Jul 2015

they need to stop acting like they're doing something noble when they hunt - they hunt because they enjoy stalking and killing animals, but they never admit that

TexasBushwhacker

(20,196 posts)
122. Like any predator, wolves will go after the easiest prey
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 02:13 PM
Aug 2015

When there were billions of them, prairie dogs were the preferred prey of large carnivores. When ranchers started poisoning them by the millions, saying that their cattle were stepping in holes and breaking their legs, the large carnivores had to move on to something else, like livestock and deer. So then the ranchers solution was to kill the wolves and coyotes.

Prairie dogs also ate mesquite beans and shoots, keeping invasive species in check. Without prairie dogs, mesquite spread far and wide, taking over millions of acres of grassland that had been grazed in the past.

Bison and prairie dogs had a symbiotic relationship for thousands of years. If ranchers want to distract wolves from their livestock and improve the quality of the grasslands, they need to save the prairie dog.

http://gprc.org/research/prairie-dogs-the-truth/prairie-dogs-and-soil-impacts/#.Vb0IF-0o7qA

Don't fuck with mother nature.

RichVRichV

(885 posts)
123. It's amazing how nature tends to reach an equilibrium when we're not messing with it.
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 08:03 PM
Aug 2015

It's an impressive complex machine.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
111. see, I EAT EVERYTHING I KILL!!!
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 04:49 AM
Jul 2015

so that OVERRIDES the fact that I just CANNOT WAIT for HUNTING SEASON TO START! IT'S A *SWELL* SPORT!!!

I

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
28. I wonder how he feels. Like a worthless POS I hope. I hope he feels threatened, constantly
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:50 PM
Jul 2015

looking over his shoulder, wondering who might go after him.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
34. Same here! Definitely! This asshole is getting a taste of his own medicine. Not everyone sees
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:55 PM
Jul 2015

asses such as he as some great hero. And he is a coward, running into hiding, a total waste.

Warpy

(111,270 posts)
27. Yes, please.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:50 PM
Jul 2015

He needs to face up to his utter lack of concern about the nature and terms of his "hobby."

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
37. I read the best idea for how to punish him for his crime.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 05:00 PM
Jul 2015

Obvious for some of us the best punishment would be to let a pack of hungry lions hunt him or probably something more practical like serving time in a Zimbabwe jail, which I can't imagine is a place anyone would want to spend quality time.

But in the end there is a better way that could do a world of good for the people of Zimbabwe and maybe give Dr. Palmer DDS a bit of humility to boot.

The man is a dentist. And I'm sure a country like Zimbabwe there is probably thousands of people there who might benefit from free dental care. He can pay back his time by maybe spending 2-3 years running a free Dental clinic in Zimbabwe where he can offer his services to those people who might not be able to afford to see a dentist. Good dental hygiene and especially healthy gums can lead to a healthier life because diseased gums are one of the easiest ways for germs & bacteria to enter into the blood stream and cause health issues.

I think that would be a fitting punishment and put him to good use for the country he harmed!

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
40. That, is a very positive approach to all of this, and he might in fact learn something about
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 05:04 PM
Jul 2015

helping than killing.

dhill926

(16,343 posts)
42. I like this...
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 05:06 PM
Jul 2015

might help to rehabilitate the asshole...and if it doesn't, THEN feed him to the lions....

alterfurz

(2,474 posts)
49. great idea!
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 05:40 PM
Jul 2015

--except I just can't shake the tiny gnawing suspicion that in addition to the mega-money his practice generates, Walter also gets off a little bit on his patients' pain and suffering, just as the animals in his canned hunts.

Stargazer09

(2,132 posts)
104. I agree
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 11:49 PM
Jul 2015

I wouldn't want him performing dental work on anyone after this, particularly if he was forced to do it as penance for his crime.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
60. maybe he could remain
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 06:22 PM
Jul 2015

incarcerated and be escorted to and from the jail and guarded on clinic days and never receive a penny for his donated services. this perverted human has an incurable deviant brain and no heart. if he were free to roam zimbabwe he would sooner or later get back into poaching. it is what is sick ego demands.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
119. You and I have choices for dentist
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 09:44 AM
Jul 2015

But for someone in Zimbabwe who has never seen a dentist perhaps this is the first time they could have a dental issue addressed. And there would be supervision to ensure he doesn't go crazy.

 

swilton

(5,069 posts)
39. 'Considers' is the operative word here
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 05:03 PM
Jul 2015

Sorry to dash any hopes, but haven't we been down this road before?

former9thward

(32,019 posts)
43. What a poorly written article.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 05:08 PM
Jul 2015

There is no extradition order. This is a public petition which has zero legal effect. The Zimbabwean government has not asked for Palmer to be extradited. Palmer has not been charged with anything in Zimbabwe.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
46. The article did not claim there is an extradition order.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 05:19 PM
Jul 2015

The article did not claim there is an extradition order.

former9thward

(32,019 posts)
47. I guess we are reading two different articles.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 05:21 PM
Jul 2015

This is the one I read:

The petition has exceeded 100,000 signatures and US government officials said it was now up to the justice department to respond to the extradition order.


Which one did you read?

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
64. I have a problem extraditing ANYONE to Mugabe.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 06:49 PM
Jul 2015

That POS is a butcher and a murderer. It's too bad the Zimbabwean people don't have the sense enough to overthrow his ass.
Send Palmer to The Hague or try him here. Flame away if you want.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
76. That is not our problem
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:39 PM
Jul 2015

We are just following the extradition treaty. What happens after that is not our concern.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
96. yes I know
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 09:43 PM
Jul 2015

But if Z knows that we will not fight extradition, they will be more likely to pursue charges.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
78. I am perfectly fine with sending him to Mugabe.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:45 PM
Jul 2015

If he didn't want to go to jail in Mugabe's country he should not have slaughtered that innocent lion.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
91. no, they have answered every petition that met the sig. requirements. and even some that did not.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 09:06 PM
Jul 2015

one petition for unlocked cell phones, even made a bill pass to open cell phones to any carrier. people got answers, my group did.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
80. Fresh Meat! Legacy! Here, Prezzy, prezzy, prezzy!
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:56 PM
Jul 2015

Think Obama will take the bait? Or was this dentist a bundler/donor?

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
86. Now the Justice Department has 30? days to respond to petition.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 08:38 PM
Jul 2015

I really like this petition system, its easy to start a petition.

My only complaints are, I wish they answered faster & didn't require so many signatures.

complain jane

(4,302 posts)
98. And now he becomes the hunted.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 09:57 PM
Jul 2015

By hundreds of thousands. Just signed a petition that had almost 200,000 signatures.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
99. I didn't think they'd do it. I was #36 or 37 on the petition
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 10:07 PM
Jul 2015

I never thought they'd give it serious review. I hope they find his sorry ass and hand him over to the people. Just don't let him take his WMDs with him; confiscate them.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
105. Yeah, umm.. no. 1) There's no extraditable charge levied. 2) We're unlikely to extradite..
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 12:14 AM
Jul 2015

.. to Mugabe's regime any time soon. And 3) Anyone with the cash to blow $50k on a safari will have lawyers good enough to fight it in the courts.

US F&WS can rattle their collective sabers, but that's all they actually can do.

 

djg21

(1,803 posts)
121. I agree.
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 12:25 PM
Aug 2015

The only hope of Palmer being held accountable is if Mugabe offers a substantial bounty for the delivery of Palmer to Zimbabwe's authorities. Even if there were an extraditable offense, the U.S. is unlikely to extradite to Zimbabwe given Mugabe's record of human rights violation and the level of corruption rampant in that country.

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