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restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 10:34 AM Aug 2015

Cecil the lion: big game hunting banned in Zimbabwe as outrage grows over animal killing

Source: Mirror

Big game hunting has been BANNED in Zimbabwe following the global disgust at the slaughter of Cecil the lion by a US dentist.

Authorities in the south African country announced the move after it emerged a second American hunter is wanted for allegedly killing a different lion in April.

According to the Daily Record, bow hunting has also been suspended.

Zimbabwean officials want to extradite 55-year-old dentist Palmer from Minnesota. He is reported to have paid £32,000 to hunt and kill Cecil, one of the best known lions in Africa.

Read more: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/cecil-lion-big-game-hunting-6185351



this could actually be the beginning of the end of trophy killing. we need to keep the pressure on.
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Cecil the lion: big game hunting banned in Zimbabwe as outrage grows over animal killing (Original Post) restorefreedom Aug 2015 OP
so many of those big game hunting private breeding camps all over Africa. Sunlei Aug 2015 #1
Good news. How about a ban in the U.S. next? Auggie Aug 2015 #2
Thats the ticket.......................... turbinetree Aug 2015 #3
Yay and yes. BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2015 #4
If you listen to some of the news broadcasts swilton Aug 2015 #12
Well, I guess animals are going to be treated better there than gays are. NYC Liberal Aug 2015 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author bloom Aug 2015 #7
A step forward is a step forward. And a step forward generally makes another step 1monster Aug 2015 #10
it is not a contest restorefreedom Aug 2015 #11
Not what I said at all. In fact, I think this is great news. NYC Liberal Aug 2015 #13
sorry if i misunderstood. restorefreedom Aug 2015 #15
+1 jonno99 Aug 2015 #28
Good grief kwolf68 Aug 2015 #35
Another one of what, exactly? NYC Liberal Aug 2015 #36
YES! Now extradite Palmer's ass and let him rot is a prison in Zimbabwe. n/t Still In Wisconsin Aug 2015 #6
Protest Against Second Illeagal Trophy Hunting 'Creature' Wednesday 6:00 p.m. swilton Aug 2015 #8
My adopted father was a big game hunter. mithnanthy Aug 2015 #9
Wow, that's a lot of trophies. harun Aug 2015 #16
i'm sorry for what you had to go through shanti Aug 2015 #21
like the others, I am sorry for what you had to go through. how utterly awful. niyad Aug 2015 #24
What a shocking and disgusting picture of death. What creeps!!! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2015 #26
to be surrounded by so much death, and glory in it, is truly sickening. niyad Aug 2015 #39
That looks very much like "home". mithnanthy Aug 2015 #32
I cannot even begin to imagine what it was like to be surrounded by such horror. niyad Aug 2015 #40
extradite the asshole dentist and doctor samsingh Aug 2015 #14
Some of it's not even hunting. Just animals kept in cages and released before getting shot. mainer Aug 2015 #17
that is why I refer to it as trophy killing restorefreedom Aug 2015 #19
Exactly what they are, "psycho scumbags." And they are one step away from hunting humans. IMO RKP5637 Aug 2015 #27
boy would i like to see that. nt restorefreedom Aug 2015 #30
I don't understand why so many doctors in this arena. juajen Aug 2015 #34
It's weird, isn't it. Maybe because they have lots of money and can afford to do it. Maybe RKP5637 Aug 2015 #37
its creepy restorefreedom Aug 2015 #38
Jan Siske, too. Extradite and throw his sorry ass in Zimbabwe jail. magical thyme Aug 2015 #18
perfect! shanti Aug 2015 #20
Hope they won't back down, and will enforce this ban strictly. It's time to grow up. n/t Judi Lynn Aug 2015 #22
Maybe this noble creature lost his life for a noble cause. Marie Marie Aug 2015 #23
GOOD, it's about bloody time they did that Warpy Aug 2015 #25
That's a qualified success. no_hypocrisy Aug 2015 #29
The legal trade in trophies and hides provides them cover. LeftyMom Aug 2015 #31
This should have been done years ago. Third Doctor Aug 2015 #33
 

swilton

(5,069 posts)
12. If you listen to some of the news broadcasts
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 11:53 AM
Aug 2015

they make it sound like it's an 'African' problem ,

Already Safari Club International is pressuring airlines not to embargo planes transporting trophies

http://www.outdoorhub.com/news/2015/07/28/south-african-airways-lifts-ban-hunting-trophies/


Response to NYC Liberal (Reply #5)

1monster

(11,012 posts)
10. A step forward is a step forward. And a step forward generally makes another step
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 11:49 AM
Aug 2015

forward easier and more likely.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
11. it is not a contest
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 11:51 AM
Aug 2015

people can be compassionate about many different issues at the same time.

this "you can't be outraged over animal cruelty as long as there are injustices against humans" meme is getting tired.


NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
13. Not what I said at all. In fact, I think this is great news.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 11:54 AM
Aug 2015

Just pointing out a sad bit of irony (or hypocrisy).

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
15. sorry if i misunderstood.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 12:03 PM
Aug 2015

on rereading, it looks like you were referring to the plight of gay people in that country.

didn t mean to kneejerk. there have been so many comments like "you can't be upset about animal cruelty because (human group) has been (injustice)." it was getting tiring.



 

swilton

(5,069 posts)
8. Protest Against Second Illeagal Trophy Hunting 'Creature' Wednesday 6:00 p.m.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 11:46 AM
Aug 2015

Last edited Mon Aug 3, 2015, 12:22 PM - Edit history (1)

3358 Fifth Avenue Pittsburgh 15213

As of 12:15 EST > 75 people going

https://www.facebook.com/events/1677736535789435/




mithnanthy

(1,725 posts)
9. My adopted father was a big game hunter.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 11:46 AM
Aug 2015

He was also a Doctor and belonged to the Safari International club and the Boone and Crockett club. Over the years he filled our house, cellar and office with trophies. I called it the "dead zoo"as a young girl. One bear he shot was displayed in the Museum of Natural History in N.Y. because it was so large and an award winning trophy. When he passed away, he left me some trophies but gave most away to other people. (Thank Goddess.) He also "murdered" an elephant and brought home tusks and had foot stools made out of it's feet and also an cocktail tray. He had it's penis (inside bone)made into a cane. He killed a walrus and I have an "ozic" large club like bone from it's penis. I have earrings and bracelet also made from that bone and he had half of the animals mounted to display on walls. He killed a polar bear and my brother has that rug. He killed a lion and had it's testicals made into cocktail cups. He killed a tiger and a leopard (I have those mounts) and I've named them Cleo and Anthony and they are positioned in my house looking out the window to the lush backyard for them to "look" at. We love and honor them.( Doc didn't like me or cats because I didn't like his murderous hunting). He killed and had trophies mounted of a Musk Ox, kangaroo,water buffalo, seal, moose, caribou, elk, 3 zebras, an iguana, many antler bearing animals, a mountain goat and too many more to mention. As a child, I was forced to watch 16 millimeter films of the many "hunts' and how they took their skins off. I still have nightmares, especially now with these 2 other trophy hunting doctors in the news. We were forced at dinner to eat some of these animals' meat. I haven't eaten any meat in 39 years. I hope those doctors are sent to prison in Africa for a long time. I hesitated in writing all this but I needed to express my disgust for trophy hunting.

harun

(11,348 posts)
16. Wow, that's a lot of trophies.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 12:05 PM
Aug 2015

Grew up hunting and know a lot of hunters. None of them were trophy hunters, all hunted for food. None of us understood the trophy hunting. Always figured it was for people with way too much money/time on their hands who didn't have anything better to do with it.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
21. i'm sorry for what you had to go through
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 03:00 PM
Aug 2015
it's particularly creepy that he had so many items made from genitals, ugh!

niyad

(113,333 posts)
24. like the others, I am sorry for what you had to go through. how utterly awful.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 10:34 PM
Aug 2015

was your father by chance related to this person:

mithnanthy

(1,725 posts)
32. That looks very much like "home".
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 01:13 PM
Aug 2015

Doc had more trophies but he never killed a giraffe....probably because our ceilings were so low. I notice the trophy wife in this picture...proud of her "man". Thank you for understanding the horror of it all.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
17. Some of it's not even hunting. Just animals kept in cages and released before getting shot.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 12:33 PM
Aug 2015

There are game farms that raise animals who are so used to humans that they don't run when they're released. They just walk out of the cage and look at you as you shoot it. Those are the "hunts" that guarantee a trophy.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
27. Exactly what they are, "psycho scumbags." And they are one step away from hunting humans. IMO
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 09:03 AM
Aug 2015

these are dangerous people and should be carefully watched. And in the big picture they should be held accountable the same as if they were actually shooting people.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
37. It's weird, isn't it. Maybe because they have lots of money and can afford to do it. Maybe
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 02:16 PM
Aug 2015

something about killing things. Sometime ago a workman here said he was saving to go to Africa and kill elephants, apparently a company thing I guess. We dropped them as a vendor.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
38. its creepy
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 08:13 PM
Aug 2015

i do think it is a combination of having a lot of disposable income with the so called God complex.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
18. Jan Siske, too. Extradite and throw his sorry ass in Zimbabwe jail.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 01:06 PM
Aug 2015

He also bought nearly a million dollars worth of illegal, unapproved cancer drugs a couple years ago. Fined $100,000. and had to take out 2 ads advising people the dangers of buying drugs w/out FDA approval.

Scum. of. the. earth.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
23. Maybe this noble creature lost his life for a noble cause.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 03:41 PM
Aug 2015

We can only hope that there might be something good that comes out of this.

Warpy

(111,270 posts)
25. GOOD, it's about bloody time they did that
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 08:50 AM
Aug 2015

While it might be a source of revenue, it's not that large a source of revenue. Eco tourism of the "take only pictures, leave only footprints" type might be better once they get rid of the guys with the guns.

I would love it if Palmer were extradited. At least one 1%er would have to face the justice system instead of using his (wife's) money to escape it.

no_hypocrisy

(46,119 posts)
29. That's a qualified success.
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 10:11 AM
Aug 2015

There will always be poachers and the "hunters" will just pay that much more for the "thrill" of big-game hunting.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
31. The legal trade in trophies and hides provides them cover.
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 11:22 AM
Aug 2015

If none of it is legal then they have to smuggle the grisly shit and won't be able to display it openly. Drives up the cost and reduces the reward..

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