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tuvor

(15,663 posts)
Tue May 8, 2012, 09:22 PM May 2012

Michele Bachmann claims Swiss citizenship

Source: Politico.com

Bachmann (R-Minn.) recently became a citizen of Switzerland, making her eligible to run for office in the tiny European nation, according to a Swiss TV report Tuesday.

Arthur Honegger, a reporter for public broadcaster Schweizer Fernsehen, told POLITICO the Swiss consulate in Chicago has confirmed that the former Republican presidential candidate became a citizen March 19.

The Swiss consulate in Chicago covers the state of Minnesota, which Bachmann represents.

Marcus Bachmann, the congresswoman’s husband since 1978, reportedly was eligible for Swiss citizenship due to his parents’ nationality — but only registered it with the Swiss government Feb. 15. Once the process was finalized on March 19, Michele automatically became a citizen as well, according to Honegger.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0512/76072.html



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Michele Bachmann claims Swiss citizenship (Original Post) tuvor May 2012 OP
Let's see the Swiss put up with her bat-shit crazyness notadmblnd May 2012 #1
This isn't an Onion piece? How weird. n/t pnwmom May 2012 #2
I thought Onion piece, too at the first glance. marble falls May 2012 #41
Good. That means she can leave. RandySF May 2012 #3
This is strange. Skinner May 2012 #4
Now she can go over there and watch Willard's money Angry Dragon May 2012 #5
Hmmm....could there be a connection. Extra banking protection and citizenship? Lucinda May 2012 #6
Suspect that you're right with that. Nihil May 2012 #39
Does this mean she'll never be able to run for President again? musical_soul May 2012 #7
I thought she gave us many hours of enjoyment listening to her batshitcrazieness madokie May 2012 #10
Your spell check works. hay rick May 2012 #28
True dat madokie May 2012 #37
Good news for Jim Graves (D)! truthisfreedom May 2012 #8
This has to be a put on Botany May 2012 #9
Can't wait for the photoshops of THIS Canuckistanian May 2012 #11
The Swiss miss Blue Owl May 2012 #18
I don't think Minnesota is going to miss her! n/t customerserviceguy May 2012 #23
I can give her a lift to the airport sarisataka May 2012 #55
A Thought SailorBill May 2012 #67
Ain't that the truth sarisataka May 2012 #68
No Talking Points On This One? Bigredhunk May 2012 #12
A broken cuckoo clock is never right jberryhill May 2012 #13
lol!!!! glinda May 2012 #24
Best post in this whole thread !!!! Thanks edcantor May 2012 #61
there must be a financial angle Enrique May 2012 #14
Do these kinds of people really not see themselves for what they are? Gregorian May 2012 #15
Newt can run her campaign from his office on the moon. n/t deacon May 2012 #16
when is she going to announce her resignation? justabob May 2012 #17
Minnesota's gain is Switzerland's loss n/t dflprincess May 2012 #19
I hope this forces her out of the House. Wonder if they are getting ready to bolt CK_John May 2012 #20
Can she still be a congresswoman when holding Swiss citizenship? Smilo May 2012 #21
Yeah, I thought US law stated that it was illegal to hold dual citizenship... TheMightyFavog May 2012 #27
I think that was changed some years ago. DavidDvorkin May 2012 #31
No, there is no demand that politicians are loyal only to the United States. David__77 May 2012 #32
Dual citizenship is perfectly legal under US law. mwooldri May 2012 #38
My friend with US-British citizenship uses both his passports obamanut2012 May 2012 #43
The passport thing is definitely not true. Daniel537 May 2012 #49
That's what I was meaning... mwooldri May 2012 #69
Dual citizenship is perfectly legal obamanut2012 May 2012 #42
The US recognizes dual citizenship from all countries. Daniel537 May 2012 #47
She's hot for Roger Federer. marmar May 2012 #22
Has anyone broken the bad news to the Swiss yet? glinda May 2012 #25
But but but they have a HEALTH INSURANCE MANDATE! K8-EEE May 2012 #26
not for long...wait til she runs and works to dismantle that Roland99 May 2012 #54
There's nothing about this on the Minneapolis Star-Tribune website, Lydia Leftcoast May 2012 #29
There's a tv interview and her staffers have confirmed it suffragette May 2012 #35
Her CHILDREN wanted to exercise that option?!! Lydia Leftcoast May 2012 #46
Power hungry, much???? nt nanabugg May 2012 #30
LOL. Take her, please!!! qb May 2012 #33
I hope she moves to Switzerland. Kalidurga May 2012 #34
But I doubt Switzerland wants her! Quantess May 2012 #36
The Swiss have a far-right party that would surely welcome her. pampango May 2012 #40
Does she even speak one of the officially recognized Swiss languages? Blue_Tires May 2012 #57
She speaks the Universal Language of Politics: BS harun May 2012 #58
Why does she hate america? Javaman May 2012 #44
Actually one of the men who invented the modern right-wing fundamentalists LibertyLover May 2012 #48
"... they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock." mahatmakanejeeves May 2012 #45
Don't let the doorknob hit you in the ass leaving the US! santamargarita May 2012 #50
Switzerland? Bachmann? Domingo Tavella May 2012 #51
Limbaugh wouldn't fit in any of the Paris Opera's seats. The French are skinny, CTyankee May 2012 #63
does this have anything to do with Swiss Banks? fascisthunter May 2012 #52
How unAmerican. How unsurprising. sofa king May 2012 #53
damn...the Swiss will let anyone into their country, won't they? Blue_Tires May 2012 #56
I wonder if they are eligable to use the Swiss Health Care system now. harun May 2012 #59
The Swiss system works more like Obamacare... jberryhill May 2012 #66
Is this serious? LeftishBrit May 2012 #60
Does this make her swiss bank account legal? sarcasmo May 2012 #62
Run, Michele, run! KamaAina May 2012 #64
Bachman's brain is Swiss cheese meow2u3 May 2012 #65
 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
39. Suspect that you're right with that.
Wed May 9, 2012, 07:30 AM
May 2012

Not just making the paper trail far more obscure but also being able
to claim a whole host of "protections" for any financial irregularities
being investigated ...


madokie

(51,076 posts)
10. I thought she gave us many hours of enjoyment listening to her batshitcrazieness
Tue May 8, 2012, 09:43 PM
May 2012

Please don't tell me she won't be here to do that anymore. Now I'm sad

OT: could it be my spell check is broken as it didn't flag batshitcrazieness,

hay rick

(7,639 posts)
28. Your spell check works.
Tue May 8, 2012, 10:58 PM
May 2012

Batshitcrazy is now officially a word. No definition given or needed- just a picture of Michelle Bachmann.

Botany

(70,581 posts)
9. This has to be a put on
Tue May 8, 2012, 09:43 PM
May 2012

Why would somebody running for the US Congress become a citizen of
another country?


"The Minnesota lady is bat shit crazy too." New Swiss Yodel

Bigredhunk

(1,351 posts)
12. No Talking Points On This One?
Tue May 8, 2012, 09:52 PM
May 2012

Can you imagine if a Dem did this? "So & so is too good for America"..."So and so is an elitist with a taste for swiss truffles"...

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
14. there must be a financial angle
Tue May 8, 2012, 09:55 PM
May 2012

they showed great resourcefulness milking various benefits out of the U.S. treasury, now they're going international.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
15. Do these kinds of people really not see themselves for what they are?
Tue May 8, 2012, 09:57 PM
May 2012

Sheesh. I wish I were that unaware. Life would be so fun.

I'm working on an engineering project with someone who just doesn't see the light with this concept we're working on. Someone has already done it. It's over, and time to move on to something else. I had to write "know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em.".

justabob

(3,069 posts)
17. when is she going to announce her resignation?
Tue May 8, 2012, 10:02 PM
May 2012

How can she be a Swiss citizen and still serve in our Congress?

CK_John

(10,005 posts)
20. I hope this forces her out of the House. Wonder if they are getting ready to bolt
Tue May 8, 2012, 10:10 PM
May 2012

for a far away canton with secret banking laws.

TheMightyFavog

(13,770 posts)
27. Yeah, I thought US law stated that it was illegal to hold dual citizenship...
Tue May 8, 2012, 10:55 PM
May 2012

Maybe she'll have to renounce her US Citizenship...

David__77

(23,501 posts)
32. No, there is no demand that politicians are loyal only to the United States.
Wed May 9, 2012, 12:29 AM
May 2012

There are in fact a number of politicians that owe allegiance to multiple homelands.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
38. Dual citizenship is perfectly legal under US law.
Wed May 9, 2012, 07:20 AM
May 2012

However...

if you exercise your priviledges as that foreign citizen (e.g. run for political office, enter or leave the USA on the foreign passport) then you lose your US citizenship - and you don't even need to formally renounce it. Just demonstrating your loyalty to another country and having that country's citizenship is

That is the problem with being a dual citizen - sure you can have the two passports but to leave and then re-enter the USA you have to use your US passport. You buy your plane tickets using your US passport information... but when you get to your destination you whip out your other passport and enter the citizens line for that country.

obamanut2012

(26,137 posts)
43. My friend with US-British citizenship uses both his passports
Wed May 9, 2012, 08:35 AM
May 2012

And has never had any problem with it whatsoever, and also hold a rather high US security clearance. He's been told on both sides of the pond this is fine, and he also voted in all the British elections.

I just texted my friend with US-Irish, and she does the same thing.

 

Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
49. The passport thing is definitely not true.
Wed May 9, 2012, 09:32 AM
May 2012

Your required to use your American passport when entering the US, but even if you don't its not an offense that could cost you your citizenship.

"Most U.S. citizens, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country. Use of the foreign passport does not endanger U.S. citizenship."

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
69. That's what I was meaning...
Fri May 11, 2012, 02:08 PM
May 2012

"Most US citizens must use a US passport to enter and leave the US. "

What if a US citizen uses a non-US passport to get back INTO the USA? That's my point.

Although the State Department says use of the foreign passport does not endanger US citizenship, it doesn't state what the consequences are of not using a US passport to get into the USA - as a US citizen. I can imagine that the person would be fingerprinted... if they're not from a country where the visa waiver pilot program is in place they'd be asked for their visa... and if they are in a country under the visa waiver pilot asked why they did not enter their information into the website before going to the USA... and if they're let in they may get clearance for 90 days and treated as a visitor. If the immigration officer treats it as such. The immigration officer may also turn around and say "welcome home" and you're good... the officer may also say "you're not allowed here" and send you on the next flight back to where the other passport says you come from.

It's this intent thing in US law that makes it easier for US citizens to lose their citizenship.

obamanut2012

(26,137 posts)
42. Dual citizenship is perfectly legal
Wed May 9, 2012, 08:32 AM
May 2012

Although it is only recognized from certain countries, like Canada, the EU, etc. I have three friends who hold it: Irish, British, and German. They have two different passports.

About the only thing they can't do with it is hold certain government jobs (foreign service, and I think FBI and CIA).

 

Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
47. The US recognizes dual citizenship from all countries.
Wed May 9, 2012, 09:30 AM
May 2012

My mother, for example, has both Cuban and American citizenship. There's no law prohibiting recognition of dual citizenship from any single country.

K8-EEE

(15,667 posts)
26. But but but they have a HEALTH INSURANCE MANDATE!
Tue May 8, 2012, 10:52 PM
May 2012

Doesn't that make her a SLAVE to the tyranny of having health insurance, ZOMG DID SHE GIVE UP HER FREE-DUMB TO BE UNINSURED? Cuz compulsory health insurance is super s-s-scary according to her.....just sayin!

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
29. There's nothing about this on the Minneapolis Star-Tribune website,
Tue May 8, 2012, 11:31 PM
May 2012

which is odd, because her district takes in some of the northern suburbs.

But if the story is true, I'd love to see the righties' reaction when their goddess becomes a citizen of a country in Europe.

Again, if the story is true and she moves to Switzerland, she may move right back, because the Swiss are too educated and sensible to fall for her demented Barbie doll shtick.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
35. There's a tv interview and her staffers have confirmed it
Wed May 9, 2012, 02:52 AM
May 2012
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/collections/special/columns/polinaut/archive/2012/05/bachmann_now_a.shtml

Staffers for Minnesota Congresswoman Michele Bachmann are confirming a Swiss television news report that Bachmann is now a citizen of Switzerland. Bachmann's congressional spokeswoman Becky Rogness said Bachmann now enjoys dual citizenship with the US and Switzerland.

"Congresswoman Bachmann's husband is of Swiss descent so she has been eligible for dual-citizenship since they got married in 1978," said Rogness. "However, recently some of their children wanted to exercise their eligibility for dual-citizenship so they went through the process as a family."

Bachmann represents Minnesota's 6th Congressional District and is seeking re-election to a 4th term following a failed GOP presidential campaign. Bachmann's critics have accused her of neglecting her Minnesota constituents in favor of promoting broader ambitions.



They also have a link to the video of the Swiss TV interview.


Still, my immediate reaction on seeing the OP was to think of "Ripley's Believe It or Not."

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
46. Her CHILDREN wanted to exercise that option?!!
Wed May 9, 2012, 09:27 AM
May 2012

Maybe they've seen many of Mom's political associates up close and personal and it scares even them.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
34. I hope she moves to Switzerland.
Wed May 9, 2012, 02:14 AM
May 2012

Yeah, I know they didn't do anything to us and I really like their cheese. But, she has been dragging the good name of Minnesota through the mud long enough. Besides she is really an Iowan as anyone in Minnesota they will tell you.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
36. But I doubt Switzerland wants her!
Wed May 9, 2012, 04:43 AM
May 2012

No, I'm sure they would be welcoming...at first, at least. But after a few months of her antics they'd be hoping she moved back to the US.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
40. The Swiss have a far-right party that would surely welcome her.
Wed May 9, 2012, 07:32 AM
May 2012

The Swiss People's Party is a national conservative and right-wing populist political party which focuses on issues such as euroscepticism and opposition to immigration.

In its foreign policy the SVP opposes increased involvement of Switzerland in intergovernmental and especially supranational organisations, including the UN, EEA, EU, Schengen and Dublin treaties, and closer ties with NATO.

The SVP supports supply-side economics. Thus it is a proponent of lower taxes and is against deficit spending.

In terms of the environment, transportation and energy policy the SVP opposes governmental measures for environmental protection.

In social welfare policy the SVP rejects expansion of the welfare state, and stands for a conservative society. It opposes the public financing of maternity leave and nursery schools. The SVP is sceptical toward governmental support of an equalisation of both genders...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_People's_Party

Those all sound like positions that Bachmann has already publicly supported, so the Swiss far-right should welcome her with open arms.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
57. Does she even speak one of the officially recognized Swiss languages?
Wed May 9, 2012, 01:07 PM
May 2012

Or will she be the first-ever candidate for office who needs to give speeches through an interpreter?

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
44. Why does she hate america?
Wed May 9, 2012, 08:55 AM
May 2012

more so, she was persuing this while running for prez?

oh I wonder how her fundie few mouth breathing supporters square with this?

she is such a sideshow.

LibertyLover

(4,788 posts)
48. Actually one of the men who invented the modern right-wing fundamentalists
Wed May 9, 2012, 09:31 AM
May 2012

was one Francis Schaeffer. He and his wife founded the L'Abri community in Switzerland.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Schaeffer

Bachman has mentioned several times that reading his books were instrumental in bringing her to a pro-life position. Maybe she just wants to be like her idol?

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,600 posts)
45. "... they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
Wed May 9, 2012, 09:20 AM
May 2012
The Third Man

Harry Lime: Don't be so gloomy. After all it's not that awful. Like the fella says, in Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. So long Holly.


The Third Man - Orson Welles' Great Cuckoo Clock Speech against Democracy, Peace and Brotherly Love

 

Domingo Tavella

(41 posts)
51. Switzerland? Bachmann?
Wed May 9, 2012, 11:50 AM
May 2012

If this report is true, Michelle Bachmann must have a direct familial line to Swiss immigrants. It would be a funny spectacle indeed to see this very loud and apish woman trying to learn to live in a civilized nation like Switzerland, where she would have no clue about how to behave (not to mention trying to learn German - priceless.) The closest thing to Bachmann in Switzerland that I can imagine is Limbaugh going to the Opera in Paris.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
63. Limbaugh wouldn't fit in any of the Paris Opera's seats. The French are skinny,
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:12 PM
May 2012

ya know...you don't see people his size walking around Paris.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
66. The Swiss system works more like Obamacare...
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:30 PM
May 2012

There are a handful of private insurance companies which offer coverage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Switzerland

Swiss are required to purchase basic health insurance, which covers a range of treatments detailed in the Federal Act. It is therefore the same throughout the country and avoids double standards in healthcare. Insurers are required to offer this basic insurance to everyone, regardless of age or medical condition. They are not allowed to make a profit off this basic insurance, but can on supplemental plans.

...

The insured pays the insurance premium for the basic plan up to 8% of their personal income. If a premium is higher than this, then the government gives the insured a cash subsidy to pay for any additional premium

LeftishBrit

(41,210 posts)
60. Is this serious?
Wed May 9, 2012, 01:31 PM
May 2012

Well, Switzerland is famous for its cuckoo clocks; maybe now they will manufacture clocks where every hour a Michelle Bachmann doll jumps out and cries 'Cuckoo! Cuckoo!'

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