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Initech

(100,081 posts)
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 05:08 PM Aug 2015

Delta Is Latest Airline To Join Big Game Trophy Transport Ban

Source: New York Times

The recent killing of a popular lion named Cecil by an American dentist in Zimbabwe sparked considerable outrage on social media and elsewhere against safari hunting. The event has also brought to light the role that airlines play in transporting trophy kills as cargo, and may have contributed to changing airline policy.

On Monday, Delta Air Lines became the latest carrier to change its rules about transporting hunting trophies. Its announcement came as a group of airlines including Air France, KLM, Iberia, IAG Cargo, Singapore Airlines and Qantas signaled last week they would ban the transport of trophy-hunting kills, according to Paul Ferris, the campaign director at SumOfUs.org, a consumer-based petition agency in Brooklyn, which has pressed for changing cargo policies.

“Airlines and other large travel corporations would be foolish to ignore the public reaction to the killing of Cecil the lion, and growing concern about the plight of endangered species,” Mr. Ferris said.

Such a ban was initiated by South African Airways in April, and Emirates, Lufthansa and British Airways later joined. These airlines pledged not to carry big game trophies, including elephants, rhinos, lions and tigers as cargo.

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Excellent news!
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Delta Is Latest Airline To Join Big Game Trophy Transport Ban (Original Post) Initech Aug 2015 OP
This is great news Gothmog Aug 2015 #1
Cecil's memory lives on flamingdem Aug 2015 #2
Delta....gets you there....unless you're the carcass of an animal shot by a Big Game hunter! MADem Aug 2015 #3
thank you Delta. magical thyme Aug 2015 #4
1,000 Recs - Thanks for posting swilton Aug 2015 #5
we will see how long this lasts. niyad Aug 2015 #6
Yay, Delta! City Lights Aug 2015 #7
Excellent! denvine Aug 2015 #8
hey its a free market decision restorefreedom Aug 2015 #9
Safe decision and meaningless cosmicone Aug 2015 #10
They were being shipped as cargo, on airlines. SoapBox Aug 2015 #11
Precisely Aerows Aug 2015 #18
Actually Aerows Aug 2015 #17
I once sat next to a moose on the plane cosmicone Aug 2015 #24
His smell could fell a moose Aerows Aug 2015 #25
The big-money-erection-challenged set likely fly private Ruby the Liberal Aug 2015 #12
Am I alone in thinking it's strange elias49 Aug 2015 #13
My husband flew Delta to South Africa on a National Geographic excursion mnhtnbb Aug 2015 #14
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #15
I was on a flight next to a bowhunter Aerows Aug 2015 #16
That is quite disturbing. Initech Aug 2015 #19
Try being in the middle seat Aerows Aug 2015 #20
I'd just put my headphones on and tune out life in that situation. Initech Aug 2015 #23
Good for Delta! okasha Aug 2015 #21
I am optomistic that Delta's ban will hold up. BlueEye Aug 2015 #22
Unless you're willing to pay an extra fee for carrion luggage. Atman Aug 2015 #26
Good one! Califonz Aug 2015 #27
I once flew to Prague and they charged me for Czeched baggage. Atman Aug 2015 #28
DUzy awoke_in_2003 Aug 2015 #33
Good to hear davidpdx Aug 2015 #29
This is great-who is still transporting trophies? Gothmog Aug 2015 #30
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #31
Does this airline serve the US? Gothmog Aug 2015 #32
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #34

MADem

(135,425 posts)
3. Delta....gets you there....unless you're the carcass of an animal shot by a Big Game hunter!
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 05:13 PM
Aug 2015

Good for them!!!!!

 

swilton

(5,069 posts)
5. 1,000 Recs - Thanks for posting
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 05:17 PM
Aug 2015

Just read that South African Airlines had rescinded their ban after only 3 months.. ..SCI - Safari Club International is putting a lot of pressure on the airline industry.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027038378

While I agree that the countries' have corrupt governments, the real problem is driven by the demand - largely from US trophy hunters - that is costing the wildlife.

denvine

(802 posts)
8. Excellent!
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 05:41 PM
Aug 2015

Thank you Delta for changing your rules and putting the squeeze on this perverted practice...

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
10. Safe decision and meaningless
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 06:22 PM
Aug 2015

a) people generally don't transport trophies in personal baggage which is X-rayed at many points
b) The trophies are too large to check-in anyway
c) Customs of various countries (including the US) are likely to confiscate them.

Trophies are most probably shipped in container cargo to Mexico and then driven up the road.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
17. Actually
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 08:23 PM
Aug 2015

Deer, Elk and Moose are regularly transported on planes. I know because I sat next to a guy on the plane that had a deer in the cargo hold of the plane.

I'm pretty sure that I know every damn step he made in bagging said deer because he wouldn't shut up about it, and I saw him collect his trunk in baggage.

Bow hunters are a pompous lot.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
25. His smell could fell a moose
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 11:56 PM
Aug 2015

at 50 paces. It was eye watering, and I endured him from Chicago to Atlanta.

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
13. Am I alone in thinking it's strange
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 07:18 PM
Aug 2015

that the press, from the very beginning and continuing, refers to that jerk as "...an American dentist" rather than simply "an American man"? Just seems odd and unnecessary.

"The recent killing of a popular lion named Cecil by an American in Zimbabwe sparked considerable outrage..."

mnhtnbb

(31,392 posts)
14. My husband flew Delta to South Africa on a National Geographic excursion
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 07:58 PM
Aug 2015

several years ago. It is definitely an important carrier to/from South Africa.

I wouldn't discount the number of trophy hunters who have probably flown first class on Delta to/from Africa.

You'd have to be at the really big bucks income level to fly a private jet to Africa--more than what the dentist
or OB/Gyn made in a year.

On edit: my husband flew coach.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
16. I was on a flight next to a bowhunter
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 08:20 PM
Aug 2015

He endlessly discussed the hunt he had (I fell asleep because I had been working for 18 hours straight to bring up a server). We are in baggage claim and his trunk comes by - blood is leaking out of it.

I thought to myself, you can carry bloody cargo but a water bottle is prohibited.

It was just gross.

BlueEye

(449 posts)
22. I am optomistic that Delta's ban will hold up.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 10:46 PM
Aug 2015

Unlike South African Airlines, which is beholden to the big game hunting special interest groups in J-burg and Cape Town, Delta's African market is more evenly distributed across the continent. Other than Johannesburg, Delta serves Lagos, Nigeria, Dakar, Senegal, and Accra, Ghana. From what I've read, the governments of Nigeria, Senegal, and Ghana have publicly and vociferously opposed poaching (enforcement is a different question, but the policies are there).

Delta has worked to develop close relationships with those governments in order to fly there (as is customary in many African countries), and so this new policy will sow some goodwill with the citizens of those nations, and by default, the politicians/bureaucrats that Delta works with. If Delta were to renege on this agreement, it would look very bad and could endanger their business in these markets. For example, the West African Lion is the beloved national animal of Senegal.

Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
30. This is great-who is still transporting trophies?
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 08:41 AM
Aug 2015

We need to boycott or make the public aware of the airlines who still participate and support big game hunting

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