AMIRITE?

But not surprising.



I hope the video is released from the 14 video cameras from in and around the dealership to show what happened.

I was merely responding to everything on DU lately.

It was sort of a "Thanks Obama" thing.

Take offense if you please. I don't give a rats ass.

Offense at your basic lashing out when called out for said insensitivity? Nah.

You give yourself too much credit.

It wasn't an accident.

Edited to clarify: he didn't get inside the dealership by accident.

past drug arrests.

Not to mention it is a good possibility they didn't know until after they murdered him.

It sounds more like something racist, murdering police department puts out to cover their nazi thug asses.

I worked the streets in a town a couple million people at night doing shootings, stabbings, and delivering kids in areas of low income, so I am more familiar with this than some. The reports indicate they didn't have to kill him, that the officer likely fired prematurely. Which most likely makes that murder of some degree.

in the news about this.

look like he deserved to be shot like an animal.

Or maybe not racists - just jack-booted nazi thugs who are evil regardless of one's skin color.

Intent is something a bit harder to show.

Was it done to discredit it? Perhaps.

But if you look downthread you'll see the exact opposite: he was "high as a kite"--obviously trying to discredit him? Oh. No. Instead the guy was saying he wasn't a burglar, just high and not behaving quite rationally.

Discredit? Justify? Such a fine line, it must take a very good judge of souls and characters, able to read hearts and minds, to make that kind of delicate judgment.

Good Lord.

The officers at the scene could have hardly known that the man had priors until AFTER the cops killed him.

So, this info was put out there after the fact to JUSTIFY the killing of another unarmed black man.

the kind of training that was needed. Police departments need to do a better job of screening and training officers. Most of them are failing to do so.

I think it's going to take a complete overall on all levels of law enforcement throughout the country with strong oversight to make sure each department if following the rules. It would take a lot of money, time, and dedicated people who have the qualifications. I honestly don't know what else could be done other than that.

a hell of alot more money, not that our government couldnt afford to spend the money if they would cut say the defense budget in half they could then use that money to improve the police departments and redo our infrastructure and probably have some change left over for other projects.

And if it drives up the deficit, so be it. We have to do it. The good thing is it WOULD create some jobs. The school I go to has a law enforcement program within the business department and people with DBAs would be perfect to go into the communities and start straightening things out. Hell if the government has to give some student loan debt relief to those who take the job and stay for 5 years.

Someone should seriously start a thread and throw around some ideas because now is the time to get them out so they will be front and center.

any company or corporation that employees (and employee includes 3rd party contractors) more than 50 people and and yet more than 10% of its employees earn under 32400 a year.

Don't be in a rush to make a judgment call on this one. There is more to this story than has been released. Let it play out so that more - other facts will be released.

I'm not saying there are no facts that could come out to make that a justifiable homicide, but it would take a lot.

even old enough to drink in many states?

The part I found interesting was that the stories suggest one cop is tasing him when the rookie decides to unload his weapon into the guy.

Seems like there is always someone suggesting we don't rush to judgement when an unarmed black person is killed, as if the same thing would have happened to a white person.

But sometimes it does...

And this one will take some looking into. Hopefully there is dashcam or shop video. But the guy wasnt some innocent like Eric garner.

That aside its clear that the kid did need to be arrested but some interior or dashcam video as you mentioned would go a long way in showing if the officers choice to shoot was a sound one.
As for Garner, lets be honest he had an extensive record going back decades according to http://www.inquisitr.com/1659026/eric-garner-criminal-past-emerges-30-arrests-in-34-years-including-assault/
Should the officers have used the chokehold on him? No.
Should they have been charged for doing so with atleast manslaughter? Yes.
Was Garner an innocent? No

This is someone high as a kite

but what happened on the inside? they must have interior video as well. And if he jumped on the first cop thru the door, then tough shit for him. But we need to see what happened. Not taking the cops word for it.
Whatever he's doing he looks like he must be on something. Just doesnt make any sense; stomping on that car etc

It seemed like a sort of fugue state. If you asked him what he was doing, and why, there would be no sensible reason. He was just acting in the moment, with no real motivations. Sometimes there would be a vague paranoia. However, he wouldn't be stumbling or staggering, just acting and talking strangely. Like my friend, I doubt that this young man had criminal intentions, in the usual sense of the term.