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riversedge

(70,311 posts)
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:00 PM Aug 2015

Bernie Sanders: Criticism of Hillary Clinton is 'sexist'

Source: cnn




By Eric Bradner, CNN

Updated 11:50 AM ET, Sun August 9, 2015



Bernie Sanders defended Democratic presidential primary foe Hillary Clinton against "sexist" criticism on Sunday.



Washington (CNN)Bernie Sanders is battling Hillary Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination -- but he's defending her trustworthiness, saying the former secretary of state is facing "sexist" criticism.

"I think for a variety of reasons, Hillary Clinton has been under all kinds of attack for many, many years. In fact, I can't think of many personalities who have been attacked for more reasons than Hillary Clinton. And by the way, let me be frank and I'm running against her: Some of it is sexist," Sanders, the Vermont senator, said Sunday in an interview on CBS's "Face the Nation."
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Sanders said he's focused on issues like trade and Wall Street reform, and doesn't plan to lodge the same kinds of complaints about Clinton's personal style that many Republican presidential contenders have.

"I don't know that a man would be treated the same way that Hillary is," Sanders said. "So all that I can say is I have known Hillary Clinton for 25 years. I admire her. I respect her. I like her. She and I have very different points of view on a number of issues."............

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/09/politics/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-sexist-criticism/



Thank you Sen. Sanders.
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Bernie Sanders: Criticism of Hillary Clinton is 'sexist' (Original Post) riversedge Aug 2015 OP
He said SOME of it is sexist - LiberalElite Aug 2015 #1
The OP title is identical to the CNN title... CNN--not known for neutrality. HappyPlace Aug 2015 #25
It's a bad headline. MsInformed Aug 2015 #30
Hillary has gotten a roundly sexist treatment through most of my political life Hydra Aug 2015 #2
"Some of it is sexist." OnyxCollie Aug 2015 #3
Yes. Just as some criticism of President Obama is racist RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #16
Is there an example of this you can show? MsInformed Aug 2015 #31
Here's a couple examples of an "attack" on HRC. OnyxCollie Aug 2015 #37
Looks like valid concerns to me. Bubzer Aug 2015 #52
I wish she would come to his defense Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #4
The contrast is instructive pscot Aug 2015 #13
well to me it just proves Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #17
Now, stop it with your sexist criticism! BeanMusical Aug 2015 #34
On what should she defend him? George II Aug 2015 #23
that he has a long and clear Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #29
Bernie said "some of it is sexist". Deadshot Aug 2015 #5
typical journalism Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #8
Sanders is a class act. He is refusing to take the bait. diabeticman Aug 2015 #6
yep Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #10
Bernie is a Hillary surrogate. She helped get him elected. LuvLoogie Aug 2015 #7
Helping someone get elected does not make them your surrogate. Flying Squirrel Aug 2015 #22
Perhaps the poster is being sarcastic? merrily Aug 2015 #26
So it would follow Buzz cook Aug 2015 #35
I did specify "In some instances it is true." n/t Flying Squirrel Aug 2015 #40
Ha nt Buzz cook Aug 2015 #45
LuvLoogie navarth Aug 2015 #41
I disagree with her a lot on policy grounds, and her record. Fuddnik Aug 2015 #9
me too, and that is not sexist Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #11
It could be sexist or Buzz cook Aug 2015 #36
I forgot about the pantsuits. Didn't care back when and don't care now. It's not an issue. A Simple Game Aug 2015 #46
That made me laugh. deurbano Aug 2015 #51
This is one of the reasons I support him. MuseRider Aug 2015 #12
he is a class act all the way restorefreedom Aug 2015 #14
That's why we all love Bernie. juajen Aug 2015 #15
Same here. I'm supporting HRC, but Nernie is awesome. nt Adrahil Aug 2015 #21
Thank you for posting. SoapBox Aug 2015 #18
^^^ n/t BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2015 #48
Only for those who pay no attention to her policy and track record Demeter Aug 2015 #19
He is being gracious here. candelista Aug 2015 #20
Classy mcar Aug 2015 #24
Linkbait from CNN Doingto Aug 2015 #27
Bernie is not only a really great guy, he's also a realist. Johnyawl Aug 2015 #28
Agree. He is classy and gracious. One thought passed my mind that inadvertently libdem4life Aug 2015 #32
We were watching "Die Hard III" last night.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #33
Bernie does not have a sexist, racist bone in his body. If he critisizes her it is on issues. Some still_one Aug 2015 #38
Thought the qualifications comment was a bit sexist... TomCADem Apr 2016 #56
That was written in August 2015. My views on Bernie have changed considerably since then still_one Apr 2016 #57
just curious restorefreedom Aug 2015 #39
If you don't pay attention to the colon in the headline, it comes out differently. elias49 Aug 2015 #42
there are few accidents imo restorefreedom Aug 2015 #44
He is a good man passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #43
He's a very honest and good person. Sunlei Aug 2015 #47
True story ... LannyDeVaney Aug 2015 #49
Bernie knocks it out of the park, again! lark Aug 2015 #50
Sander's character is solid Farmbrook Aug 2015 #53
Congratulations on your 5555th post, riversedge! Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #54
I agree Bradical79 Aug 2015 #55
 

HappyPlace

(568 posts)
25. The OP title is identical to the CNN title... CNN--not known for neutrality.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 02:58 PM
Aug 2015

Last thing they're going to do is respect Sanders by accurately quoting him in their headline.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
2. Hillary has gotten a roundly sexist treatment through most of my political life
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:07 PM
Aug 2015

The RW especially hates her. It's too bad that she supports policies that hurt people, otherwise I'd happily support her.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
16. Yes. Just as some criticism of President Obama is racist
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:38 PM
Aug 2015

And some people who criticize Israel's occupation of Palestine are anti-semitic.*

But that doesn't inoculate anyone from legitimate criticism.

What we should condemn in no uncertain terms are people who "play the gender card" or the race card or the religion card when voicing their disagreements.

But we should allow -- indeed, encourage -- legitimate criticism that steers clear of smears and other ad hominem attacks.

So any would-be painters who are tempted to get out your broad brush, I respectfully suggest that you put it back in the jar.




*Yes, I know. Both Arabs and Jews are Semites.

MsInformed

(48 posts)
31. Is there an example of this you can show?
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 03:31 PM
Aug 2015

Because just saying that any valid criticism of her gets called sexists is really just a way to deflect and attempt to diminish the very real phenomenon of the horrendous treatment she is getting simply because she is a woman that is on a powerful path.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
52. Looks like valid concerns to me.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 02:07 PM
Aug 2015

But then, I'm a Bernie Sanders supporter, first and foremost.
I'll be a Hillary supporter only if I must. I'd rather not have to hold my nose to vote though.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
4. I wish she would come to his defense
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:08 PM
Aug 2015

on other matters, she has been so silent it is deafening. Almost approving of how he is being treated. I am glad he is standing up for her.

pscot

(21,024 posts)
13. The contrast is instructive
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:14 PM
Aug 2015

Clinton likely sees nothing to be gained by defending Bernie. People who support BLM seem to support her too. Defending Bernie might cost her a vote or two.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
29. that he has a long and clear
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 03:18 PM
Aug 2015

history of supporting black causes and is not a racist as some seem to be portraying him.

 

Flying Squirrel

(3,041 posts)
22. Helping someone get elected does not make them your surrogate.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 02:44 PM
Aug 2015

In some cases that is true but in the majority of cases it is not.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
26. Perhaps the poster is being sarcastic?
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 03:08 PM
Aug 2015

If not, I'd be interested in knowing how and when Hillary helped Bernie get elected.

Buzz cook

(2,474 posts)
35. So it would follow
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 04:20 PM
Aug 2015

That just because Hillary gets donations from Wall Street it doesn't mean she is a surrogate of Wall Street.

I agree with your assessment.

navarth

(5,927 posts)
41. LuvLoogie
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 08:55 PM
Aug 2015

If it makes you feel any better, I understood the humor right away.

LuvLooge is a good handle btw

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
11. me too, and that is not sexist
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:13 PM
Aug 2015

now some of her supporters that talk about her hair style and what she wears, could that be sexist?

Buzz cook

(2,474 posts)
36. It could be sexist or
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 04:26 PM
Aug 2015

It could be a way to combat descriptions of Clinton as a hag that wears ugly pants suits.

In a broader area is Cosmopolitan sexist or are they promoting a positive view of women's bodies? I've heard both sides argued.

Could we say that isms have to include intent?

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
46. I forgot about the pantsuits. Didn't care back when and don't care now. It's not an issue.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 09:11 AM
Aug 2015

I guess Bernie supporters aren't that much into image for some reason. Off the top of my head I just can't quite place it, no wait, let me comb through my thoughts, it'll come to me.

MuseRider

(34,125 posts)
12. This is one of the reasons I support him.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:14 PM
Aug 2015

He does not have to hate someone or hate on them to oppose them. To me these comments are the biggest clue to his feelings about women and our issues (I would say the same about racial issues but that is not for me to decide). She is such an easy target with the tactic of sexism and he could probably pick up supporters just by targeting her as well.

Stay cool Senator and thank you!

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
14. he is a class act all the way
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:15 PM
Aug 2015

just out of curiosity, when is hillary going to come out and say that the racist charges against him by blm disruptors is completely unwarranted?

juajen

(8,515 posts)
15. That's why we all love Bernie.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:38 PM
Aug 2015

I will always speak well of this marvelous Democrat. He deserves all of the accolades he receives and more.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
18. Thank you for posting.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:55 PM
Aug 2015

It's wild times, that will continue until the final results next year.

Sexist crap is something that we Dems should be united against, even if we have policy disagreements.

If there is any doubt about who we don't want to be...just glance again at the PukeBagger insanity.

 

candelista

(1,986 posts)
20. He is being gracious here.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 02:39 PM
Aug 2015

Bernie is defending his opponent against unfair criticism. That puts him on the high road. He is a very clever politician. Or maybe he is just a nice guy.

 

Doingto

(135 posts)
27. Linkbait from CNN
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 03:11 PM
Aug 2015

Sanders said "some" of the attacks have been sexist, but the title pretends that all attacks have been sexist in Sanders' view.

Johnyawl

(3,205 posts)
28. Bernie is not only a really great guy, he's also a realist.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 03:16 PM
Aug 2015

He understands how politics work, and what his odds of winning the nomination are. If HRC wins the nomination Bernie wants to walk into that convention with enough delegates - and good will from HRC and her supporters - to have a major effect on the democratic platform. Even losing he has the potential to move the political conversation in this country back to the left. He will then endorse HRC and campaign for her urging his supporters to vote for her. All of this will be much easier if he can maintain an amiable relationship with Hillary by keeping their disagreements about policy and not making them personal. And it will keep republican scum from throwing any nasty words back in his face.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
32. Agree. He is classy and gracious. One thought passed my mind that inadvertently
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 03:36 PM
Aug 2015

it might chip a bit at the "solid" female vote. It's a shout out, really, for women.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
33. We were watching "Die Hard III" last night....
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 03:44 PM
Aug 2015

The movie came out in 1995. In one scene they're racing across town when a woman in a VW convertible cuts them off and Bruce Willis says, "Hey lady! Who do you think you are? Hillary Clinton?"

That's a sexist attack of course because Hillary didn't stay in her place and it was inspiring other women to get uppity. Imagine if it were a black guy that cut them off and he yelled, "Who do you think you are? Barack Obama?"

Point being - Hillary has been the target of sexist attacks for over 20 years.

still_one

(92,422 posts)
38. Bernie does not have a sexist, racist bone in his body. If he critisizes her it is on issues. Some
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 07:39 PM
Aug 2015

posts on DU have used subtle sexist anatomical slurs, and DU did not put up with it. What was disturbing is the posts that were arguing that it represented censorship, to arguments that the United Kingdom uses those descriptions all the time, and it "isn't considered offensive, therefore it should be "ok"".

Bernie is a straight shooter, and calls them as he sees them. That is why in general, on DU, no matter who the candidate is that they support, the vast majority on DU do not question his integrity. The same was also true of Elizabeth Warren. Sure there are differences on some issues, and some with the belief that he would have a difficult time winning a general election if he wins the nomination, but those are all legitimate points up for discussion.

Personal attacks on DU on a Democratic candidate, do nothing to further the cause of the candidate they are supporting.



TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
56. Thought the qualifications comment was a bit sexist...
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:27 AM
Apr 2016

...in fact it appeared to contradict his former comments.

still_one

(92,422 posts)
57. That was written in August 2015. My views on Bernie have changed considerably since then
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 09:03 AM
Apr 2016

when the primary season started I had a positive view of both candidates. Due to the behavior of some of his supporters, along with his campaign, along with the actual ignorance of Senator Sander's on the issues, I no longer have a favorable view of him

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
39. just curious
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 08:34 PM
Aug 2015

when is hillary going to come to his defense and say that the blm disruptors were out of line?

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
42. If you don't pay attention to the colon in the headline, it comes out differently.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 10:21 PM
Aug 2015

"Bernie Sanders criticism of Hillary Clinton is sexist".. As though it was Bernie's criticism. Clever little bit of propaganda?
If one were reading the story out loud, it could easily be misunderstood.
Darn the English language!

 

LannyDeVaney

(1,033 posts)
49. True story ...
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 11:14 AM
Aug 2015

Many, many years ago I had a friend recommend a new news channel. I wasn't really political at all, but he told me about this new channel called Fox News that seemed to really be informative. So, I gave it a try.

Very first comment, on the very first show I watched, was about Hillary Clinton's thighs.

True story.

Farmbrook

(48 posts)
53. Sander's character is solid
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 03:18 PM
Aug 2015

and this is why I support Sanders as black person. For those trashing BLM protesters, you all should all learn something from him. Thanks Bernie.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
55. I agree
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 07:19 AM
Aug 2015

I agree with the actual quote, not the click bait headline :-P Criticism is good, and tough questions deserve to be asked. Like President Obama, the level of hatred she gets is far disproportionate to any actions or things she said compared to other politicians. There's a loud segment of the population where bigotry is clearly the main issue. As a teenager, I remember after Bill Clinton's cheating on her how some people hated her even more like it was her fault. It was ridiculous. And people still act like she's the devil when at worst she's just a pretty typical politician.

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