'Shocking' New Poll: Carly Fiorina Clear Winner of GOP Debate
Source: The Imperial Valley News
Washington, DC - A massive new poll of nearly 6,000 people across the U.S. picked Carly Fiorina as the clear-cut winner of Thursday's GOP debate. Thirty-seven percent or 3,710 of the respondents chose Ms. Fiorina as their candidate of choice; Donald Trump, who has dominated the headlines in the past few weeks came in third with just 14% or 1,379 of those participating in the survey opting for him.
The Association of Mature American Citizens posted the poll on their Web site, www.amac.com, yesterday and by Saturday morning more than 10,000 members and visitors to the site had picked their favorites.
Ted Cruz came took second place with 17% or 1,704 votes.
Dan Weber, president of AMAC, which boasts more than 1.3 members throughout the country, called it "a shocker. Ms. Fiorina participated in the Republican debates as part of a seven-person, second-tier event; but she apparently managed to overshadow the top-ten prime time debaters by a wide margin."
Read more: http://www.imperialvalleynews.com/index.php/news/national-news/4673-carly-fiorina-clear-winner-of-gop-debates.html
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busterbrown
(8,515 posts)I wonder if they heard about Carly’s views on Social Security or Medicare..
Ted Cruz came in second.. Most of the respondents were probably asleep during debate..
I know, because I’m a Mature American Citizen..
big_dog
(4,144 posts)was someone who wasn't even on the stage!! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAhaha!
Cal33
(7,018 posts)took place at 5 P.M. The place was nearly empty. Apparently not many people
knew about it. Yes, they were on the stage.
big_dog
(4,144 posts)this proves Faux News had absolutely no clue what they were doing
lobodons
(1,290 posts)Tells you all you need to know about the credibility of that poll.
big_dog
(4,144 posts)so dont be shocked if he is the next meteor after Trump's shady buisness connections flame out
karynnj
(59,504 posts)Possibly multiple times. Not to mention an organization not really heard of.
Exultant Democracy
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Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)This has the whiff of unreliability.
I understand that other post-debate polling has Fiorina doing well and winning the debate, but nothing approaching this. I have also heard of some post-debate polling that had Cruz second, but it was second to Trump.
OnlinePoker
(5,727 posts)If the poll was of 6000 people, 3710 would be nearly 62%. Shows the quality of the information being presented.
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Jim__
(14,083 posts)The first paragraph says 6,000; the 2nd paragraph says more than 10,000. I'm not sure what the hell they're talking about.
ISUGRADIA
(2,571 posts)AMAC = self styled conservative alternative to the AARP
Demeter
(85,373 posts)but not anybody's idea of a winner....
big_dog
(4,144 posts)but 36-17-14 is a pretty big margin, given she was not even on the stage
Doingto
(135 posts)Therefore it is not shocking.
gordianot
(15,245 posts)big_dog
(4,144 posts)Trump exits then Cruz on the warpath alienating more moderate voters, gives the rebel handle to Huckster who then finally cedes to Walker.
bucolic_frolic
(43,311 posts)on excitement. Political energy, novelty.
They know Hillary doesn't exactly generate enthusiasm in a lot of places.
big_dog
(4,144 posts)the prospect electing the first female president in US History will carry the day long term cloud view.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)A Better Business Review:
http://www.bbb.org/new-york-city/business-reviews/associations/association-of-mature-american-citizens-inc-in-bohemia-ny-122665/
From AMAC (emphasis added):
The Association of Mature American Citizens (AMAC) is here to protect your interests, and to offer an alternative perspective on how to best solve the problems seniors face today. AMAC has stepped forward with a mission to restore America’s moral compass, to make America better. But we can’t do it alone. We need you. America needs you.
From a mere start-up in 2007, AMAC has evolved into an extraordinary force with considerable traction in our nation’s Capital. With over a million members, AMAC has positioned itself as an organization that our country’s leaders are taking note of, and we’re accomplishing this by advancing solutions instead of rhetoric. The conservative philosophies we share with our members pave the way for everything we do. In fact, we rely on input and participation from our members as prime ingredients in the initiatives we undertake. The opinions and the views put forth by AMAC on Capitol Hill are based on careful research and analysis, as evidenced by the “AMAC Social Security Guarantee” legislative proposal now under consideration in Washington.
http://amac.us/about-us/
PolitiFact:
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ASSOCIATION OF MATURE AMERICAN CITIZENS
"If you and I fail to defund ObamaCare now, some 16,000 new IRS agents will be begin prying into our private medical records, eyeing each and every one of our treatments and prescriptions for "violations’."
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/association-mature-american-citizens/statements/byruling/pants-fire/
David__77
(23,520 posts)I would find no outcome shocking.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)and Christie is falling (link).
Also, NBC did an online poll that had these horserace numbers: Trump 23%, Cruz 13%, Carson 11%, Fiorina 8%, Rubio 8%, Bush 7%, Walker 7%, Paul 5%, Huckabee 4%, Kasich 2%, Perry 2%; along with these who-won-the-debate numbers Fiorina 22%, Trump 18%, Rubio 13% Cruz 12%, Carson 8%, Huckabee 5%, Paul 3%, Walker 3%, Bush, 2%, Christie 2%, Kasich 2%(link).
big_dog
(4,144 posts)PublicPolicyPolling
PublicPolicyPolling – ?@ppppolls
It will take a while for the Trump stuff to sort itself out but one thing very clear in our polling last night- Fiorina moving into top tier
7:56 - 8 Aug 2015 https://mobile.twitter.com/ppppolls/status/630029713730314240
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)big_dog
(4,144 posts)Who won the debate:
Fiorina 22%, Trump 18%, Rubio 13% Cruz 12%, Carson 8%, Huckabee 5%, Paul 3%, Walker 3%, Bush, 2%, Christie 2%, Kasich 2%
Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/-nerdscreen--who-won--and-lost--thursdays-debate-501119555665
This poll employs an online methodology so take it for what it is worth
Kingofalldems
(38,487 posts)You can give us all the republican news for the day.
big_dog
(4,144 posts)just like last time. a good defense is the best offense! 
allinthegame
(132 posts)just like 2012...the current shiny object happens to be from the kids' table
patricia92243
(12,603 posts)Republicans would like a woman - any woman - to run so they can show how open minded they are. Plus they could get rid of Trump at the same time. I've got a feeling ol' Jeb is now out of the picture and the republicans now have a new fair-haired girl.
Turbineguy
(37,372 posts)the cheap shot.
PSPS
(13,618 posts)totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)There were two separate debates. Carly may have won the first debate but she couldn't have won the second debate because she wasn't in it. Such nonsense.
momrois
(98 posts)They'll be on to someone else next week, same as it played out in 2012.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)What will 'The Donald' say?
olddad56
(5,732 posts)olddad56
(5,732 posts)and the controversy surrounding her failure to vote in most elections prior to entering politics and the controversy surrounding her attempts to not pay off her campaign debt, I see no reason why she wouldn't lead all of the bigger losers among the GOP hopefuls.
In the realm of the GOP pretenders, she might be the best they have to offer.
candelista
(1,986 posts)Here is one of their proposals for "saving" Social Security.
http://amac.us/social-security/
