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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 05:49 PM Aug 2015

Dozens of retired generals, admirals back Iran deal

Source: Washington Post

By Karen DeYoung August 11 at 3:09 PM

Three dozen retired generals and admirals Tuesday released an open letter supporting the Iran nuclear deal and urging Congress to do the same.

Calling the agreement “the most effective means currently available to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons,” the letter said that gaining international support for military action against Iran, should that ever become necessary, “would only be possible if we have first given the diplomatic path a chance.”

The release came as Secretary of State John F. Kerry said U.S. allies were “going to look at us and laugh” if the United States were to abandon the deal and then ask them to back a more aggressive posture against Iran.

Not only would U.S. global credibility be undermined, Kerry said, the dollar’s position as the world’s reserve currency would be threatened.

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Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/retired-generals-and-admirals-back-iran-nuclear-deal/2015/08/11/bd26f6ae-4045-11e5-bfe3-ff1d8549bfd2_story.html?wpisrc=nl_evening&wpmm=1

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Dozens of retired generals, admirals back Iran deal (Original Post) DonViejo Aug 2015 OP
Repukes will not stop the deal cosmicone Aug 2015 #1
That would be a smart, sane, move. lark Aug 2015 #13
Coming from the guys who would have to wage these wars ... Historic NY Aug 2015 #2
Actually, it's from the guys and gals who don't have to fight it anymore since they are 24601 Aug 2015 #4
We know that, how speaking for the guys and gals the higher echelon would have to Historic NY Aug 2015 #6
Noooooo angrychair Aug 2015 #3
one of them's a rabbi no less Enrique Aug 2015 #5
Three dozen flag officers tabasco Aug 2015 #7
Screw Chuck Schummer! mpcamb Aug 2015 #8
and the US? 6chars Aug 2015 #9
Insert it where you'd like. mpcamb Aug 2015 #10
How does the Iran deal work? tjl148 Aug 2015 #11
The text is online if you want to read it. bananas Aug 2015 #12
Thank you tjl148 Aug 2015 #15
Here is the set of pdfs bananas Aug 2015 #18
so what is the odds Keep-Left Aug 2015 #14
Unfortunately, nil Midnight Writer Aug 2015 #17
Why do they hate America....? (N/M) Grins Aug 2015 #16
K & R Scurrilous Aug 2015 #19
 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
1. Repukes will not stop the deal
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 05:53 PM
Aug 2015

They are waiting for cover which will be provided by McInsane, Corker and Orrin Hatch. Once those three say they'll vote for the deal, floodgates will open and most repukes will vote yay.

They are waiting so that it would appear like they studied it every which way. Then they will say it is flawed but voting no would be worse.

lark

(23,158 posts)
13. That would be a smart, sane, move.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 01:18 PM
Aug 2015

In other words, something most Repugs would never ever consider. They will vote NO for 3 reasons,
1 - Bibi worship
2 - Obama
3 - They just always vote wrong

24601

(3,963 posts)
4. Actually, it's from the guys and gals who don't have to fight it anymore since they are
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 07:21 PM
Aug 2015

retired.

It would be highly improper for any active duty officers to insert themselves into a political fight.

36 signed. In 2006, Slate estimated that there were 4700 Retired Generals and Admirals (1 to 4 star officers). So 36 would be 0.00766 or a little over 3/4 of one percent.

Anybody know why Wesley Clark didn't sign?

Historic NY

(37,453 posts)
6. We know that, how speaking for the guys and gals the higher echelon would have to
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 07:26 PM
Aug 2015

command that don't have a voice. The old sages raise their voices.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
5. one of them's a rabbi no less
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 07:22 PM
Aug 2015
Retired Navy Rear Adm. Harold L. Robinson, a Jewish rabbi and former naval chaplain who currently chairs the National Conference on Ministry to the Armed Forces, also signed.

“As a lifelong Zionist, devoted to Israel, and a retired general officer and a rabbi for over 40 years, and operating without institutional encumbrances, I have a unique perspective,” Robinson said in an interview.

He said he decided to speak out to demonstrate that “those of us who love Israel in the United States are not of one mind and one voice on this matter. I thought it was important to represent some of the diversity within the American Jewish community.”
 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
7. Three dozen flag officers
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 07:27 PM
Aug 2015

I'm sure they're just a bunch of naive liberals.

The brilliant republican military experts in Congress can't be fooled so easily!

mpcamb

(2,878 posts)
8. Screw Chuck Schummer!
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 07:33 PM
Aug 2015

Do what's right for:
1) the cause of Middle East peace
2) the world
3) NY State
yeah, and

#4) Israel

tjl148

(185 posts)
11. How does the Iran deal work?
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 09:47 PM
Aug 2015

Who knows the details of this deal like what triggers new sanctions, what needs to be done to reinstate sanctions, what weapons are allowed to be researched and built, who is allowed to inspect and when etc. Is there a link to find this info?

bananas

(27,509 posts)
12. The text is online if you want to read it.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:59 AM
Aug 2015

I'll try to dig up a link later.
Interpreting it, and looking for loopholes and deficiencies is another matter.

There is currently only one physicist in Congress, and he is still undecided:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141162344

I have a lot of respect for Richard Garwin, Frank von Hippel, and Valerie Plane;
they are experts in the field and are in favor of the deal.

I haven't had the time to evaluate it myself.

Midnight Writer

(21,803 posts)
17. Unfortunately, nil
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 01:12 AM
Aug 2015

There is no liberal media. But turn on your radio, or your number one cable news channel, or network news, and you will only hear opposition to the diplomatic solution.

Obama made an excellent impassioned defense of "the deal" a couple of weeks ago, but he needs to do more. Even liberal supporters are not out there making the case to the public. Maybe if they acted all crazy like Trump they would get some media attention.

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