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uhnope

(6,419 posts)
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 03:01 PM Aug 2015

Django film actress arrested for public sex asked to write less passive-aggressive apology to police

Source: National Post (Canada)

Django Unchained actress Daniele Watts was arrested last September after police said they spotted her and her boyfriend Brian James Lucas having sex in a parked car.

Watts and Lucas were ordered to write apology letters to the cops who arrested them in exchange for having the case dropped. Watts tweeted her apology last week, which she said was rejected by the courts, likely for omitting words like “sorry” and “apology”.

In the letter, Watts describes the encounter between she and Lucas, who is white, and the police officers as racial profiling which caused her “fear, shame and anxiety.” She says she felt provoked when one officer disregarded her “many disheartening experiences related to ‘being black’” by telling her “Thank you for bringing up the race card, I never hear that.”

Watts comes close to saying “sorry” when she writes “Hopefully you can forgive the fact that my heightened emotions disturbed what might have been an otherwise carefree stop on your way to a nice cup of coffee.” And she does thank them for creating an opportunity “for the public to discuss, and more deeply understand the ‘taboo’ subject of interracial relationships.”

Read more: http://news.nationalpost.com/arts/django-unchained-actress-arrested-her-for-having-sex-in-public-asked-to-write-a-less-passive-aggressive-apology-to-police



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Django film actress arrested for public sex asked to write less passive-aggressive apology to police (Original Post) uhnope Aug 2015 OP
Lame. Try again. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #1
I'd apply that very same sentiment to your disputation as well. LanternWaste Aug 2015 #7
I didn't get caught having sex in public and then try to make a race thing out of it. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #8
The letter says she's an entitled, narcissistic, mean and unpleasant person. Shrike47 Aug 2015 #2
If she wasn't famous, she'd be sent to jail Democat Aug 2015 #3
Several years ago I had an employer order me to apologize to a vendor we did business with bluestateguy Aug 2015 #4
What is it about people today that there are like ZERO standards of decency? closeupready Aug 2015 #5
Interracial relationships are "taboo"? In California? . . . Journeyman Aug 2015 #6
Damn...If a court can order that Blue_Tires Aug 2015 #9
The apology letter was part of an plea agreement, branford Aug 2015 #16
I know what a court-ordered apology is Blue_Tires Aug 2015 #20
Interracial is taboo? Since when? This letter makes me want to. . . Feeling the Bern Aug 2015 #10
While it has little to do with public sex yes interracial relationships are still taboo Exultant Democracy Aug 2015 #21
check your private messages. Feeling the Bern Aug 2015 #22
Jeezuz almighty - if fornication in a car was a sin erronis Aug 2015 #11
I vaguely remember this case--I think they were parked in front of an office building of glass MADem Aug 2015 #12
I think we're way too uptight about sex and nudity in this country. Frank Cannon Aug 2015 #26
Or the xerox repairman and the temp.... MADem Aug 2015 #27
That was a perfectly respectful apology. I think the pigs were being overly sensitive. Monk06 Aug 2015 #13
It was the judge that rejected the letter, not the cops. Gigabear Aug 2015 #18
There was a small humour element in that post. Monk06 Aug 2015 #19
Having sex in public should not be something you go to jail for!!! Helen Borg Aug 2015 #14
The complain to the relevant elected representatives. branford Aug 2015 #15
The police were just trying to give her a warning. Yo_Mama Aug 2015 #25
No, and if you didn't even have sex in public reorg Aug 2015 #28
All these stupid puritanic laws Helen Borg Aug 2015 #29
Revise and resubmit alcibiades_mystery Aug 2015 #17
If you don't want to see it, quit looking. hunter Aug 2015 #23
'at a certain point I think: enough is enough' reorg Aug 2015 #24
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
7. I'd apply that very same sentiment to your disputation as well.
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 03:52 PM
Aug 2015

I'd apply that very same sentiment to your disputation as well.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
8. I didn't get caught having sex in public and then try to make a race thing out of it.
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 04:00 PM
Aug 2015

Your mileage may vary.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
2. The letter says she's an entitled, narcissistic, mean and unpleasant person.
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 03:20 PM
Aug 2015

Based on that 'apology', I'd want to kick her ass.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
3. If she wasn't famous, she'd be sent to jail
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 03:24 PM
Aug 2015

She doesn't feel lucky to be famous and get away with things that others would probably be thrown in jail for?

An average poor person, black or white, might even be labeled a sex offender for life.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
4. Several years ago I had an employer order me to apologize to a vendor we did business with
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 03:31 PM
Aug 2015

I felt I had done nothing wrong, but I parsed the most gobbledygook non-apology apology I could wordsmith together. My manager let the issue drop after that, and I left the job a year later anyway.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
5. What is it about people today that there are like ZERO standards of decency?
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 03:39 PM
Aug 2015

People walking about town in bathing suits, or even simple undershorts and nothing else.

Or, as with her, having sexual intercourse in a public place within view of pedestrians who were passing by?

No, Lena Dunham is not really walking around naked, and if she were, I can guarantee you everyone around her would be fleeing in terror. Same with this one.

Journeyman

(15,042 posts)
6. Interracial relationships are "taboo"? In California? . . .
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 03:44 PM
Aug 2015

Who knew, you can't schtup in public, no matter who you are or what your appearance?

What an idiot. Given an opportunity to gracefully put this behind her, she chooses to thumb her nose at the court. Wouldn't surprise me if the court hauls her in for a couple of nights in county lock up, to give her time to compose an appropriate message.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
9. Damn...If a court can order that
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 04:09 PM
Aug 2015

then I can dredge up 10,000 celebrities/politicians/athletes who need to re-submit their apologies...

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
16. The apology letter was part of an plea agreement,
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 06:26 PM
Aug 2015

and in lieu of more serious penalties for a crime where the defendants were undoubtedly guilty. It was not a simple and voluntary public relations exercise.

Note also that defendants' insincere and false claims of racial bias to avoid the consequences of their actions would likely have aggravated any penalties imposed by the court without such a plea agreement. Ms. Watts was lucky that the court did not revoke the plea agreement and schedule the case for trial. I'm certain she would begin to feel far more apologetic after a few hundred hours wearing an orange jumpsuit and picking up litter on public parks and roads.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
20. I know what a court-ordered apology is
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 07:38 PM
Aug 2015

and there are still countless instances of non-apologies on record...This guy wrote a book full of them (not all of them are court-ordered, though): http://www.amazon.com/Sorry-About-That-Language-Apology/dp/0199300917

Nevermind the fact that there's about a million things the LAPD have yet to apologize for...So they can shove it up their collective asses, as far as I'm concerned...

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
21. While it has little to do with public sex yes interracial relationships are still taboo
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:04 PM
Aug 2015

If you have ever been part of one you would probably know how awkward and insulting the experience of being in an interracial relationship can be in america. It in no way excuses her behavior but it doesn't mean it isn't true. I'm not that old, just in my 30's, and I got the shit beat out of me in highschool for hooking up with the a white girl.

We only lived in Idaho for four months of my freshmen year of high school, but I was almost killed twice and the cops suggested I stop messing with mormon girls rather than pursue my attackers.

erronis

(15,383 posts)
11. Jeezuz almighty - if fornication in a car was a sin
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 04:29 PM
Aug 2015

All normal humans would be going to some xian hot spot.

I've done it in about every place I could. I've had cops in TX knocking on the steamed-up window asking if everything was OK (it was!).

What a stupid country we live in. Get over it. Procreation (and recreation) are part of being alive. If you don't like it, your ancestors wouldn't have given a few tries, and you wouldn't be here.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
12. I vaguely remember this case--I think they were parked in front of an office building of glass
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 04:39 PM
Aug 2015

windows; they were basically giving all the office workers a live show in broad daylight (not in a car on a darkened street with the door closed and newspaper on the windows, that's Neapolitan style) and the initial call to the police was a suspected public prostitution - "Hugh Grant" type complaint. The police arrived with that expectation, not that it was two lovers meeting for a little afternoon delight.

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
26. I think we're way too uptight about sex and nudity in this country.
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 02:04 PM
Aug 2015

But even I might get pissed off if a couple were screwing in front of my building.

For crying out loud, do what our fathers and their secretaries did: get a hotel room.

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
15. The complain to the relevant elected representatives.
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 06:19 PM
Aug 2015

However, in this instance, the police were properly responding to a complaint and enforcing an entirely valid law in a professional and courteous manner. The defendants attempted to claim racial bias in order to avoid the consequences of their actions, but the videos proved them liars.

The defendants were still graciously offered a plea bargain which included letters of apology, a fairly common circumstance for minor crimes. I'm surprised the defendant's lawyer actually provided that "apology" letter to the judge, and the defendant was lucky she's now being given a second chance, rather than him throwing-out the plea agreement entirely.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
25. The police were just trying to give her a warning.
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 01:15 PM
Aug 2015

She's the one who blew the whole thing up with a pack of lies.

She should spend a couple of days in jail while she's writing her next effort.

reorg

(3,317 posts)
28. No, and if you didn't even have sex in public
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 10:29 AM
Aug 2015

but were just making out with your boyfriend in a car you should absolutely be left alone.

Instead, photos were taken by some voyeurs in the adjacent building, some uptight assholes called the police, and when the latter arrived, a scenario similar to the one in Texas with Sandra Bland occurred. The black woman became uppity! And had to be cuffed since she refused to provide identification.

I think it's great that young, well educated and strong women like Daniele Watts put a stop to this and I say: honor and praise to her!

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
29. All these stupid puritanic laws
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 11:01 AM
Aug 2015

About nudity and sex should be abolished. They are just a form of shaming and control over people.

hunter

(38,337 posts)
23. If you don't want to see it, quit looking.
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:36 PM
Aug 2015

Gawd, what a waste of the police and court resources.

Where were the adults?

Isn't it traditional to yell, "Hey! Get a room!"

It amazes me people call the police for incidents like this.

Why?





reorg

(3,317 posts)
24. 'at a certain point I think: enough is enough'
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 12:18 PM
Aug 2015


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