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brooklynite

(94,609 posts)
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 09:13 AM Aug 2015

Yvette Cooper: leadership candidates urged to pull out to avoid Corbyn win

Source: The Guardian

Labour leadership hopeful Yvette Cooper has admitted that there have been behind-the-scenes manoeuvrings to persuade candidates to bow out of the race to prevent veteran leftwing MP Jeremy Corbyn from winning.

Against a backdrop of increasingly desperate interventions from senior party figures appealing for those registered to vote to back anyone but Corbyn, ballot papers are expected to start arriving through the letterboxes on Monday of the 450,000 people who have registered to take part – many in the wake of Corbyn’s breakthrough in the polls.

...snip...

The controversy about those entitled to vote in the contest deepened as Ben Bradshaw, the Labour deputy leadership candidate and MP for Exeter, said his constituency party had found that 10% of new registered supporters had never voted for Labour before.

“In my own constituency, which is probably the best organised Labour party in the country, we have been through all of the new registered supporters and have cross referenced them with our voting records, which are the best in the country, and consistently 10% of the new registered supporters have always said they have been strongly against Labour. They’ve never voted Labour, they’ve always voted for another party,” he said.


Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/aug/17/yvette-cooper-labour-leadership-candidates-pressured-to-stand-aside-jeremy-corbyn-peter-mandelson
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Yvette Cooper: leadership candidates urged to pull out to avoid Corbyn win (Original Post) brooklynite Aug 2015 OP
Brits getting fed up too. PatrickforO Aug 2015 #1
Trying to understand how dropping out invalidates the vote brooklynite Aug 2015 #2
It's not clear, but I think it's meant to be a protest at allowing the non-members to vote muriel_volestrangler Aug 2015 #4
Disgusting corruption. Gumboot Aug 2015 #3
All this just makes the three mainstream candidates look worse T_i_B Aug 2015 #5
Corbyn boost after condemnations from dreadful people Ichingcarpenter Aug 2015 #6
In a similar vein, we see that David Miliband backing Liz Kendall ... muriel_volestrangler Aug 2015 #8
My link was a british satire site but I thought it was Ichingcarpenter Aug 2015 #9
Yeah, but like good satire, it has an aspect of truth muriel_volestrangler Aug 2015 #10
Meanwhile, at Labour party HQ.... T_i_B Aug 2015 #12
I go by the Independant.co.uk every now and then... uriel1972 Aug 2015 #7
The thing is.... T_i_B Aug 2015 #11

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
4. It's not clear, but I think it's meant to be a protest at allowing the non-members to vote
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 09:56 AM
Aug 2015

Sort of 'if 3 out of the 4 candidates have dropped out because they say we've got anti-Labour people paying £3 to vote, then we've got to suspend the vote and rethink the process'.

The support for Corbyn isn't as great in the members as among the union affiliates or those who paid the £3 to be a 'supporter', and Mandelson presumably thinks limiting the vote could stop Corbyn. However, a poll showed you'd have to restrict it to pre-2010 members before you got someone other than Corbyn to win:





https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/08/10/corbyn-pull-ahead/

Gumboot

(531 posts)
3. Disgusting corruption.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 09:48 AM
Aug 2015

The 'powers that be' desperately trying to stop Labour returning to its blue-collar roots, after 20 years of awful Blairism.

Even more reason to get Jeremy Corbyn elected. Power to the people!




T_i_B

(14,740 posts)
5. All this just makes the three mainstream candidates look worse
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 03:11 AM
Aug 2015

They need to stop arguing about who should drop out in favour of who and start making positive arguments about how they will make this country a better place to live.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
6. Corbyn boost after condemnations from dreadful people
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 05:40 AM
Aug 2015

Jeremy Corbyn’s bid for the Labour leadership looks unstoppable after some genuinely dreadful people came out against him.

Tony Blair was the first truly awful person to really stand up against him.

In a studio interview the former ‘Ugly Rumours’ bassist and war-criminal called for all supporters of Corbyn to have their hearts cut out of their bodies, a strategy it is understood he first planned for all supporters of Gordon Brown during his time as Prime Minister.

This was followed by John McTernan making equally strong comments against Mr Corbyn, which everyone ignored until they remembered that he was chief of Staff to Scottish Labour leader Jim Murphy. A man who’s performance in Scotland was worse than Edward the First.

Yesterday Alistair Campbell, or as he’s better known; Satan, recommended the Labour party adopted an ‘Anyone but Corbyn’ strategy, failing to recognise that Ed Miliband was ‘anyone but Corbyn,’ and that could have worked out better.

Jeremy Corbyn’s team are naturally thrilled at this.

“Well, it’s brilliant,” said a Corbyn insider.

“If someone could organise Gordon Brown or Ed Balls to have a go at Jeremy then I don’t think we’d even have to bother campaigning anymore.”

“But we’d probably do it anyway to annoy Tony Blair.”


http://newsthump.com/2015/08/12/corbyn-boost-after-condemnations-from-dreadful-people/


muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
8. In a similar vein, we see that David Miliband backing Liz Kendall ...
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 06:38 AM
Aug 2015

... tells us Labour made the better choice with his brother, the last time around. Kendall only joined parliament in 2010 (standard political thinktank/special adviser career before that). All she's done is be a junior shadow minister, and she disappeared without trace in that role. I just checked a UK political forum, and the only mentions of her before this election were in a list of a hypothetical Labour cabinet (with most shadow ministers in their same roles, like her), and a Labour supporter this February listing the odds on a Miliband successor, with this comment on the also-rans:

Dan Jarvis (I dont think I have ever heard of him) 20-1
Rachel Reeves (who?) 20-1
Liz Kendall (slightly lower profile than Dan Jarvis) 20-1

She didn't get a single comment on anything good, or bad, that she did in 4 years in a shadow role.

The only possible reason anyone could have for backing Kendall is that she is the furthest right and most ardent Blairite of the 4. David Miliband is just asking for someone to rehabilitate Blair, and thus his own career.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
9. My link was a british satire site but I thought it was
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 06:43 AM
Aug 2015

apropos.....that I just found. they have some other articles on the election that are humorous

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
10. Yeah, but like good satire, it has an aspect of truth
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 06:52 AM
Aug 2015

I do think that the attacks have been helpful to Corbyn in many ways - we see the Blairites lining up to demand control of the party for more of their nonsense.

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
7. I go by the Independant.co.uk every now and then...
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 05:47 AM
Aug 2015

and they seem to be running a 24/7 anti Corbyn-a-thon, The level of vitriol is just plain weird.
They must think he's the second coming of Lenin or something.

T_i_B

(14,740 posts)
11. The thing is....
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 07:13 AM
Aug 2015

...the more the British media gets hysterical about Corbyn, the more his poll numbers rise.

I do actually think that a lot of his policies are a bit wacky, and that he doesn't stand a chance of leading Labour into the next election, much less winning it. However, he's the frontrunner for a reason. Corbyn's 3 Blairite challengers have all run poor campaigns and seem more preoccupied with infighting than offering anything positive.

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