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moobu2

(4,822 posts)
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 01:39 PM Aug 2015

Police: Man Accidentally Shot, Killed by 2-Year-Old Son

Source: WKRG News (local Alabama)

HOOVER, Ala. (AP) – A 2-year-old boy apparently shot and killed his father in what police in Alabama are calling a horrible accident.

Hoover police Capt. Gregg Rector says investigators have all but ruled out suicide and other scenarios in the shooting.

Rector says an autopsy is being conducted Wednesday on the 31-year-old man. He was found shot once in the head in an apartment on Tuesday afternoon, and no one else was inside other than the toddler.

Rector says there’s no sign of an intruder or a self-inflicted wound, and police know there was a semiautomatic pistol in the apartment.

Read more: http://wkrg.com/2015/08/19/police-man-accidentally-shot-killed-by-2-year-old-son/

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Police: Man Accidentally Shot, Killed by 2-Year-Old Son (Original Post) moobu2 Aug 2015 OP
a horrible accident? EL34x4 Aug 2015 #1
I agree completely. (eom) mak3cats Aug 2015 #4
Accident seems a most appropriate and accurate descriptor of the incident... LanternWaste Aug 2015 #9
It was unintentional but it wasn't an ordinary accident. moobu2 Aug 2015 #13
only because of the 2nd amendment - a loaded handgun around a child is considered samsingh Aug 2015 #21
At least it wasn't the GUN that caused this death Plucketeer Aug 2015 #2
Re: Sarcasm Tag (my sympathies) rock Aug 2015 #26
Nothing "accidental" about it. An irresponsible gun owner left a weapon unsecured . . . Journeyman Aug 2015 #3
+1 Arkansas Granny Aug 2015 #5
his child and his family also suffer samsingh Aug 2015 #22
Gee whiz, there sure are lots of these types of gun owners, aren't there? CTyankee Aug 2015 #23
Another heartbreaking day in East Gunistan alcibiades_mystery Aug 2015 #6
Will the two-year-old remember this? Auggie Aug 2015 #7
Two's pretty young - I can only hope he has no memory of this hatrack Aug 2015 #8
These events should NEVER be called... 3catwoman3 Aug 2015 #10
Hoist by his own Petard maxsolomon Aug 2015 #11
"Of course you're old enough. Here's how you hold it. Here's the barrel, Here's the trig". n/t jtuck004 Aug 2015 #12
let me guess, the father was "cleaning his gun"... Javaman Aug 2015 #14
Ahhh, but never forget that guns make us safer, SheilaT Aug 2015 #15
The color of money blinds one to many sins. Gun-makers want to be able to make a living, Cal33 Aug 2015 #18
Yeppers! CTyankee Aug 2015 #24
Authorities came to the conclusion that it must have been the 2-year-old who had done the shooting, Cal33 Aug 2015 #16
More responsible gun ownership. Yea, guns. Guns, guns, guns. That two year old brat Feeling the Bern Aug 2015 #17
America is such a disfunctional place, it just makes me want to scream. lark Aug 2015 #19
Hear, hear! smirkymonkey Aug 2015 #27
Very sad. romanic Aug 2015 #20
So who called the cops?? Historic NY Aug 2015 #25
 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
1. a horrible accident?
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 01:45 PM
Aug 2015

I would call it horrible negligence.

There's no such thing as an accident when it comes to firearms. If you leave a weapon loaded, cocked, the safety off and the trigger is pulled, it will function exactly as designed.

If you leave them in the vicinity of small children, they will pick them up.

All of these conditions require a deliberate human action.

Heartbreaking, nonetheless.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
9. Accident seems a most appropriate and accurate descriptor of the incident...
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 01:52 PM
Aug 2015

Accident seems a most appropriate and accurate descriptor of the incident as it was undesirable, unfortunate, unintentional and resulted in harm. That is was a consequence of a deliberate action is, for the purposes of both context and definition, irrelevant.

So yes, accidents do indeed happen in regards to firearms, regardless of how we ourselves may deny a valid definition to better justify it as something else.



"an undesirable or unfortunate happening that occurs unintentionally and usually results in harm, injury, damage, or loss..."

moobu2

(4,822 posts)
13. It was unintentional but it wasn't an ordinary accident.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 02:19 PM
Aug 2015

It was more like gross negligence or reckless endangerment resulting in death. If the man had lived I think he should have been charged with a crime.

samsingh

(17,601 posts)
21. only because of the 2nd amendment - a loaded handgun around a child is considered
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 04:27 PM
Aug 2015

a horrible accident. how about unavoidable incidents because more guns mean more gun accidents and deaths.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
2. At least it wasn't the GUN that caused this death
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 01:46 PM
Aug 2015

Heh - they don't call them "Terrible Twos" for nothin' ya know!



<- I shouldn't have to put this here. But there's progressives AND regressives in our midst, so I have to play it safe!

rock

(13,218 posts)
26. Re: Sarcasm Tag (my sympathies)
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 07:24 PM
Aug 2015

As I said before on DU, we can't tell your tone so the flag is very helpful. If you're thinking that what you're saying is so ridiculous, so crazy that the readers will surely see you're being sarcastic, then I say sorry, no, there are some posters that would post the same thing without a smidgen of sarcasm (in fact, they may never do sarcasm).

Journeyman

(15,041 posts)
3. Nothing "accidental" about it. An irresponsible gun owner left a weapon unsecured . . .
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 01:47 PM
Aug 2015

and he paid for his criminal neglect.

We have to call these travesties what they truly are, and "accident" serves only to cover up the crime.

samsingh

(17,601 posts)
22. his child and his family also suffer
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 04:29 PM
Aug 2015

but hey the gun lobby continues to make their blood money.

people are completely brainwashed into believing up is down.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
23. Gee whiz, there sure are lots of these types of gun owners, aren't there?
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 04:59 PM
Aug 2015

2nd A! Because FREEDUMB!!!

3catwoman3

(24,054 posts)
10. These events should NEVER be called...
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 01:56 PM
Aug 2015

...accidents. Never. As stated above, it is negligence, plain and simple.

maxsolomon

(33,400 posts)
11. Hoist by his own Petard
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 02:01 PM
Aug 2015

Why do we only hear about the negligent shootings and not the 3 brazillion DGU's every year?

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
15. Ahhh, but never forget that guns make us safer,
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 02:40 PM
Aug 2015

and gun deaths have been declining in this country, so this is just a sad aberration.

Look, everyone, so long as guns are so readily available in this country, incidents like this will happen. Pretty much daily, as a matter of fact. So acting as if it's tragic or unusual is perhaps hypocritical. It IS hypocritical on the part of everyone who supports the current status of gun ownership.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
18. The color of money blinds one to many sins. Gun-makers want to be able to make a living,
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 03:08 PM
Aug 2015

don't they? And as much of it as possible. So they hire lobbyists.......etc......

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
16. Authorities came to the conclusion that it must have been the 2-year-old who had done the shooting,
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 03:00 PM
Aug 2015

because they couldn't find any other reason. To me, this isn't definite proof.

Let me take a wild guess: What if the man was playing with the gun, whirling
it around his index finger (like we see in some Western movies), it accidentally
flew out of his hand, and fired when it hit the floor? This is very unlikely, of
course, but not impossible.

The poor toddler will have to live the rest of his life without his dad.

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
17. More responsible gun ownership. Yea, guns. Guns, guns, guns. That two year old brat
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 03:03 PM
Aug 2015

is just collateral damage. Expand the gun laws! We need lots of new, shiny guns.

lark

(23,158 posts)
19. America is such a disfunctional place, it just makes me want to scream.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 03:50 PM
Aug 2015

There is so little sanity these days and none when it comes to guns. Oh, it's just a non-preventable accident, look that way, there's nothing to see here, sayeth the NRA and it's followers. No law could possibly prevent this, shit just happens. NO! Mandated gun locks would help, mandatory gun training classes would help, background checks on everyone and no gun show loopholes, would help. Doing nothing is what's atrocious. Every year there are hundreds of people accidentally killed by children and the gun protagonists just don't give a shit. I can hardly stand this, it truly fills me with despair.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
27. Hear, hear!
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 08:29 PM
Aug 2015

I am on board with everything you said.

The thing that baffles me is how all these toddlers are killing people with guns. I though guns were kind of difficult to fire? I mean, I thought it took some strength to pull the trigger. I know nothing about guns, but how are all these children pulling off these lethal shots? You would think they would miss every now and then.

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