Shouldn't they write "Bruce" and "he" when referring to the time period of the accident?

Guess there's no AP Stylebook entry for this sort of thing yet.

Anyway he was already a she when it happened. She just wasn't public about it yet.

Would Jenner go in a man or woman's jail?

Either way the RWNJs would go nuts.

no way Jenner is in the general population, they might have to do a pete rose and put Caitlyn in a 'super max' style buliding beacuase of the press

The ones that probably distracted her and managed to get photos seconds after the accident.

Elements of Style indicates that (all things being equal) the pronoun used in the here and now is the appropriate pronoun for past and future tense usage also.

We have a more local story, an Iraq war vet, evidence of PTSD, was nonetheless allegedly driving drunk and killed someone. Sad story all around. It's made me sick to see Jenner basking in celebrity while this war vet is having his life torn apart in the process of just accountability. His life has been nothing but that accident, while her life seems to be everything but that accident

or using a cell phone.

So why on earth should you celebrate this?

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-manslaughter-charge-caitlyn-jenner-20150820-story.html

Legal experts describe the charge Jenner could face as low-level. “Basically, anyone can get into this situation behind the wheel like Ms. Jenner. There is no drugs or alcohol involved. This is just unsafe driving,” said attorney Dmitry Gorin, a former Los Angeles County prosecutor. “I remember a law professor getting charged.... If you commit a road infraction that results in a death, that becomes a traffic misdemeanor manslaughter.”

I've been rear-ended twice, with fortunately no injuries. The drivers behind me were momentarily distracted. I think it could happen to virtually anybody.

I don't know what "traffic misdemeanor manslaughter" means.

I know that if I ever drive unsafely and kill someone, it will devastate me and prey on my mind and make me want to prostrate myself before the victim's family and consider killing myself. (I was in a similar situation once.).

Maybe Jenner feels like that. But it's hard to tell from the VF cover shot. And it's pretty jarring to think of the dead person's family crying and having to see Jenner beaming on magazine covers and interviews and getting celebrated and called a hero.

Justice for the dead, please.

but there are step-children who are suing Jenner now. The same step-children who supposedly were left out of her will.

http://www.tmz.com/2015/04/02/bruce-jenner-wrongful-death-lawsuit-crash-car-accident-victim-stepchildren/

Kim does have 2 grown stepkids, neither of whom live in California. We spoke with people who were extremely close to Kim who tell us she had "virtually no relationship" with either stepchild.

Nonetheless, were told both stepchildren have lawyered up, because they're the only remaining people who have a legal right to file a wrongful death lawsuit. In California, stepchildren have legal standing to sue, even if they were estranged from the stepparent.

Sources tell us, the lawyer for one of the stepchildren has already asked his client to find as many pictures and other evidence showing some relationship between himself and Kim ... presumably to help establish damages in the lawsuit.
One thing we know ... the stepchildren will not inherit Kim's property. We're told she has a trust with millions in assets that are earmarked for charity. And there's a will with a modest amount -- $55k -- that also benefits various animal charities, including, PETA, Lange Foundation, PAWS (Performing Animal Welfare Society), Doris Day Animal League and The Elephant Sanctuary of Tennessee.

Well, not really. She's very rich, and rich people's justice is quite different from what you or I would face.

but it is pretty much smooth sailing from here.

And since there is no allegation she was speeding, using a cell phone, or on drugs or alcohol, they might decide not to. And I wouldn't blame them. Cars are dangerous and people make mistakes.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-manslaughter-charge-caitlyn-jenner-20150820-story.html

Legal experts describe the charge Jenner could face as low-level. “Basically, anyone can get into this situation behind the wheel like Ms. Jenner. There is no drugs or alcohol involved. This is just unsafe driving,” said attorney Dmitry Gorin, a former Los Angeles County prosecutor. “I remember a law professor getting charged.... If you commit a road infraction that results in a death, that becomes a traffic misdemeanor manslaughter.”

really want to minimize Jenner's responsibility.

Yes, it could happen to anyone.
Yes, it was unsafe driving.
Yes, if your unsafe driving kills someone, you are guilty of a crime.

I am not saying that this could never happen to you or me. I am saying that if it happened to you or me we would deserve to be convicted and punished according to the law. And Jenner does too.

So she was distracted. They should be held at least partially to blame.

my kids fighting in the back seat, or an emergency call from work. The kids and the nurses don't get the blame.

(Yes, many of us do have distractions while we drive.)

Children can be such a distraction, but they're kids. The paparazzi are adults who have decided to stalk people with cars. And they aren't doing it because there's an emergency.

That seems odd to me.

the prosecutors look at whether you committed ordinary negligence or gross negligence. If ordinary negligence then it is charged as a misdemeanor. If gross negligence then it may be charged as a felony or a misdemeanor. Here the prosecutors are saying Jenner committed ordinary negligence.

Even if, like Jenner, there was no alcohol or drugs, or speeding, or cell phone involved.

The only thing she did wrong was drive too fast "for the conditions" -- meaning, she made a driving mistake but it wasn't intentional.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-manslaughter-charge-caitlyn-jenner-20150820-story.html

Legal experts describe the charge Jenner could face as low-level. “Basically, anyone can get into this situation behind the wheel like Ms. Jenner. There is no drugs or alcohol involved. This is just unsafe driving,” said attorney Dmitry Gorin, a former Los Angeles County prosecutor. “I remember a law professor getting charged.... If you commit a road infraction that results in a death, that becomes a traffic misdemeanor manslaughter.”

that doesn't make someone a murderer. She should not be going to jail over this. Have a little compassion.

Does the other person's life really just mean nothing to you? Not even interested in talking to someone who cares that little.

One is required by law to pay full time and attention to your driving. Else people die for your laziness and ignorance. Wasn't an accident. No one made her drive too close or too fast. Her wheels didn't fall off. She should have and was obligated to stay a safe distance back.

Didn't and killed an innocent person, intentionally driving in an unsafe manner. That's manslaughter.

Is she so inept she can't be held to the same standards we hold l any 16 year old kid to? Seriously? Go waste someone else's time with that one.

Selfish ass clowns are whom we make jail cells for - because there will be another unless something is done. Maybe this will open her eyes to the fact that there are other people in the world. Doubt it.

bye.

Bicycling along a wide street, in the bike lane, middle of the day, run over and killed. Offending driver wasn't even issued a traffic ticket.

Of course, that driver was a Los Angeles County deputy, and he was exonerated because there's an exception to the distracted driving laws in California for emergency responders.

Same standard it seems to me.

She was looking down, feverishly texting with both hands, looking up every 4-5 seconds, then back to her important texting. She was apparently steering with her knees, and she was totally oblivious to me glaring at her with great contempt.

In situations like that, there is NEVER a cop around. Seems they only show up when you don't want them to.

or of using drugs/alcohol, or of texting while driving. The charge is virtually automatic when a person is driving and causes a death, even if no reckless behavior is involved.

This could happen to anybody who is involved in an rear-end collision that results in a death.


http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-manslaughter-charge-caitlyn-jenner-20150820-story.html

Legal experts describe the charge Jenner could face as low-level. “Basically, anyone can get into this situation behind the wheel like Ms. Jenner. There is no drugs or alcohol involved. This is just unsafe driving,” said attorney Dmitry Gorin, a former Los Angeles County prosecutor. “I remember a law professor getting charged.... If you commit a road infraction that results in a death, that becomes a traffic misdemeanor manslaughter.”

It would have been better if she hadn't been tailgating and was able to stop her car in a safe manner without rear ending hard enough to cause a death, but at least she's been charged.

followed by paparazzi?

That could have caused her significant distraction.

They have already established that she wasn't on drugs/alcohol, using a phone, or speeding.