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bananas

(27,509 posts)
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 01:30 AM Aug 2015

You Can't Do Squat About Spotify's Eerie New Privacy Policy

Source: Wired

Spotify released a new privacy policy that is now in effect, and it turns out that the company wants to learn a lot more about you and there’s not much you can do about it.

We encourage everyone to read the whole privacy policy before downloading the update or checking off the “Accept” box, but in case you have better things to do, here are some highlights from it.

Spotify Wants to Go Through Your Phone

“With your permission, we may collect information stored on your mobile device, such as contacts, photos, or media files. Local law may require that you seek the consent of your contacts to provide their personal information to Spotify, which may use that information for the purposes specified in this Privacy Policy.” – Spotify


Like a jealous ex, Spotify wants to see (and collect) your photos and see who you’re talking to. What kind of media files Spotify will collect from you is vague, and why the company needs it is unclear, but it’s doing it regardless. Also, the fact that Spotify expects you to go through your contact list and ask everyone for their consent in sharing their data with Spotify is–what’s the word? Oh yes: it’s ridiculous.

Spotify Wants to Know Where You’re Going

<snip>

Spotify Wants to Be Your Facebook Friend

<snip>

So, What Can You Do About This?

Sadly, not a whole lot.

“If you don’t agree with the terms of this Privacy Policy, then please don’t use the Service.” – Spotify


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Read more: http://www.wired.com/2015/08/cant-squat-spotifys-eerie-new-privacy-policy/
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You Can't Do Squat About Spotify's Eerie New Privacy Policy (Original Post) bananas Aug 2015 OP
Whoa...seriously? thecrow Aug 2015 #1
If you like one person on Facebook jberryhill Aug 2015 #6
You can do something... TreasonousBastard Aug 2015 #2
+1 n/t MosheFeingold Aug 2015 #15
creepy. thanks for the heads up. bbgrunt Aug 2015 #3
Bernie's been talking about all of the information gathering on us by government Live and Learn Aug 2015 #4
I've heard Bernie and a lot of other people talking about what the government collects ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #20
You can cancel your spotify service underthematrix Aug 2015 #5
I just deleted it from my phone. Fuddnik Aug 2015 #7
No different than many apps on your smartphone TekGryphon Aug 2015 #8
Wow, I was just a click away Not Sure Aug 2015 #9
don't use it and never will. hobbit709 Aug 2015 #10
I bet I can...IF you don't use it, the policy doesn't apply. ileus Aug 2015 #11
Of course I can do something. drm604 Aug 2015 #12
Haven't used it yet, will never use it now - like google and facebook. marble falls Aug 2015 #13
There is something you can do: don't use Spotify. Oneironaut Aug 2015 #14
I haven't used Spotify in years SwankyXomb Aug 2015 #29
This needs to be exposed to the masses. If everyone objects, they'll change. 7962 Aug 2015 #16
Thanks, just deleted it Fiendish Thingy Aug 2015 #17
Instead of companies telling citizens their privacy policy, lawmakers should be telling companies. Towlie Aug 2015 #18
I can ignore it and them too very easily. nt bemildred Aug 2015 #19
Thanks for the info, bananas. City Lights Aug 2015 #21
Off topic but I gotta tell your avatar is my first lol today. snagglepuss Aug 2015 #22
No, it's Tiger, the cat killed with a bow and arrow by Kristen Lindsey. City Lights Aug 2015 #23
Oh no. What character that kitteh had. Lindsey, a loathsome POS. snagglepuss Aug 2015 #26
I couldn't agree more. City Lights Aug 2015 #28
Why use it at all when you have the likes of this online? kentauros Aug 2015 #24
Is this a real question? whatthehey Aug 2015 #25
Yes, it is a real question. kentauros Aug 2015 #33
Ah the smugness of people who think those who do not share their tastes have not tried them... whatthehey Aug 2015 #36
It's interesting that you call my reply "smug" kentauros Aug 2015 #38
Or one of my favorites... al bupp Aug 2015 #27
Looks good! kentauros Aug 2015 #34
I use slacker, pandora and rad.io Mosby Aug 2015 #37
Thanks for the suggestions :) kentauros Aug 2015 #39
People just need to stop using it. I'm sure they'll change their tune once they PersonNumber503602 Aug 2015 #30
No problem assholes. Another garbage dick company/product I've thrown to the side. GOLGO 13 Aug 2015 #31
Never cared for them BuelahWitch Aug 2015 #32
I never used them for that reason. LeftyMom Aug 2015 #35

thecrow

(5,519 posts)
1. Whoa...seriously?
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 01:46 AM
Aug 2015

I use spotify on my tablet when I'm travelling and can't get wifi....so how does that compute to them having all my contacts? Weird.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
6. If you like one person on Facebook
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 02:44 AM
Aug 2015

Then you end up being liked by every app that person likes, and every app that is liked by a person they like.

It's like syphilis.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
4. Bernie's been talking about all of the information gathering on us by government
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 02:00 AM
Aug 2015

and private organizations. Says we need to have a conversation about it. I agree.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
20. I've heard Bernie and a lot of other people talking about what the government collects ...
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 11:13 AM
Aug 2015

but I have heard virtually nothing, from any legislator, talking about what private businesses collect.

To be quite honest (and with full knowledge of the contradiction in typing stuff on the internet), I am far more concerned with what private business has on me, than what the NSA has.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
7. I just deleted it from my phone.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 03:34 AM
Aug 2015

Never used it. Never wanted it.

Now if I could just get Facebook off the damned thing, I'd be happy.

TekGryphon

(430 posts)
8. No different than many apps on your smartphone
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 04:24 AM
Aug 2015

And certainly no different than Apple Music.

There are people who were afraid of cookies. Those who were serious stayed off the internet.

There are people who are afraid of app permissions. The ones who are serious don't use smart phones.

I can respect those people. What bothers me is those who jump from one service to the next, not realizing they haven't increased their privacy one iota.

Not Sure

(735 posts)
9. Wow, I was just a click away
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 04:42 AM
Aug 2015

Earlier this evening I wanted to listen to some New Wave music, so I looked to install a music app on my tablet. I was trying to decide between Spotify and Pandora when my thirteen year old daughter recommended Pandora. Lucky, I guess.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
12. Of course I can do something.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 07:17 AM
Aug 2015

I can continue not to use it.

That said, we need laws stating that companies can not require such things for the use of their services.

Oneironaut

(5,504 posts)
14. There is something you can do: don't use Spotify.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 08:49 AM
Aug 2015

Also, remember that less ethical app developers won't even tell you they're doing this. That flashlight app you downloaded could be doing the same thing, but selling the info instead.

SwankyXomb

(2,030 posts)
29. I haven't used Spotify in years
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 04:21 PM
Aug 2015

Nor since they bricked my audio drivers and I had to reinstall Windows to fix it.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
16. This needs to be exposed to the masses. If everyone objects, they'll change.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 10:15 AM
Aug 2015

But if no one does, they wont

City Lights

(25,171 posts)
21. Thanks for the info, bananas.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 11:22 AM
Aug 2015

I don't use Spotify, but will pass this info along to friends and family.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
22. Off topic but I gotta tell your avatar is my first lol today.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 11:46 AM
Aug 2015

Is that kitteh with majestic cattitude yours?

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
24. Why use it at all when you have the likes of this online?
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 02:04 PM
Aug 2015
3WK Internet Radio - Indie Rock, 80's/90's Alternative and Classic Rock online radio

Digitally Imported

Internet Archive - Audio Archive

Jamendo - Royalty free music downloads

Listen Arabic - Listen to Live Arabic Music Radio

LuxuriaMusic.com :: Internet Radio: Outré lounge and Latin jazz,groovy 60s,Bollywood,Surf

WFMU

SomaFM: Listener Supported, Commercial Free Internet Radio

StillStream.com - your place of solace

altus :: aural journeys for the mind's eye

MyNoise.net - Calibrated Background Noise Generators | Online & Free


I've never used Spotify, and I don't use Pandora any more, due to both ads and never playing really what I want to hear. So, it's either one of the above or my existing library (which I'd rather listen to most of the time anyway.)

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
25. Is this a real question?
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 02:34 PM
Aug 2015

If so easily answered. If you listen to anything other than pop/rock 3 minute self-contained songs there are precisely 2 streaming services that offer gapless playback across platforms; Spotify and Google Music, and the former has a much better selection and interface. If you've ever tried to listen to classical music (and especially opera, which can easily have 50+ tracks that can change mid-scene or even mid-sentence in what is supposed to be continuous music) with 3-10 second gaps every minute or two you'd know the value of gapless. I would imagine fans of jazz or prog rock or concept albums have similar if less disruptive problems with it.

I'd also wonder how much fans of art music would find on your links. Outside the two I named and to a much lesser extent Rdio and Rhapsody, both plagued with utterly unlistenable gaps, I haven't found much beyond the useless "Best of Beethoven" excerpts or Bocelli-style crossover schmaltz.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
33. Yes, it is a real question.
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 12:56 AM
Aug 2015

And answered in my links.

No, I didn't give much for classical music as, while I like it, I don't listen to much, other than PDQ Bach or Portsmouth Sinfonia.

Gaps don't bother me. If they bother you so much, rip your own music to a media-player/phone as single files for full orchestral pieces (or whatever it is you're listening to that's classical.)

Have a look at the links provided. You'll never know about your need for "art music" until you do

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
36. Ah the smugness of people who think those who do not share their tastes have not tried them...
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 11:47 AM
Aug 2015

You asked why. I gave you a very objective and factual reason. And by the way ripping single files from streaming sources with gaps is not reasonable as you'd just get a single large file containing many gaps. I could build my own cue sheets to try to eliminate them using "kill" phantom tacks, but the effort involved in getting the exact second and frame gap right between each track. and the likelihood of getting it truly seamless like the original source media, makes this stupid. The library cue masters are of course worthless as they assume no gaps. The problem you are missing is that the gaps are ADDED by the streaming services other than Spotify when they are not present on the original recording

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
38. It's interesting that you call my reply "smug"
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 12:28 PM
Aug 2015

because that was what I thought of your reply to me because I didn't give any links to forms of music you liked.

For your information (and everyone else's) I gave the links as alternatives for everyone here, not just those that didn't like the types of music offered. If you don't like it, you don't really have to comment. Other than to show off your smugness, of course

Mosby

(16,319 posts)
37. I use slacker, pandora and rad.io
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 11:58 AM
Aug 2015

Rad.io is pretty interesting, there are a collection of Internet stations, some pretty esoteric.

Slacker has some good stations like acid jazz. Because you can "like" songs over time the staion becomes more tailored to your tastes.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
39. Thanks for the suggestions :)
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 12:32 PM
Aug 2015

I'll give rad.io a try, though I've lost interest in the types of stations like Pandora where you can like cuts and they tailor the listening to your tastes. As I grew up with broadcast radio (even did a little of my own) I kind of prefer the adventurous nature of that kind of listening. If I don't like a cut, I can always shut it off for a while or switch to something else.

Slacker sounds good anyway, and I'll look it up

PersonNumber503602

(1,134 posts)
30. People just need to stop using it. I'm sure they'll change their tune once they
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 05:21 PM
Aug 2015

realize that people won't accept it.

GOLGO 13

(1,681 posts)
31. No problem assholes. Another garbage dick company/product I've thrown to the side.
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 09:40 PM
Aug 2015

Spotify
Windows 10
I can keep going

BuelahWitch

(9,083 posts)
32. Never cared for them
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 12:16 AM
Aug 2015

Almost signed up with them years ago, but stopped when they wanted to "share" what music I was listening to with my FB friends. I thought that was a bunch of bullshit and stayed away from them. Sounds like they've gotten worse as time went on.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
35. I never used them for that reason.
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 02:02 AM
Aug 2015

And I had to tweak some crap to not get notification every time one of my friends was binging on power ballads, because IDGAF.

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