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Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts) Fri Aug 21, 2015, 03:39 PM Aug 2015

Autopsy: Suspect killed by St. Louis police was shot in back

Source: Associated Press

Autopsy: Suspect killed by St. Louis police was shot in back
Jim Suhr, Associated Press
Updated 2:22 pm, Friday, August 21, 2015

ST. LOUIS (AP) — An autopsy showed that an 18-year-old who was shot and killed by an officer helping serve a search warrant in a violence-plagued neighborhood died from a single wound in the back, police said Friday.

St. Louis Police Chief Sam Dotson cautioned that the location of Mansur Ball-Bey's wound neither confirms nor disproves two officers' accounts that Ball-Bey pointed a gun at them before they shot at him Wednesday. Dotson said Thursday that a stolen handgun linked to Ball-Bey — with one round in the chamber and 13 more in the magazine — was found at the scene.

"Just because he was shot in the back doesn't mean he was running away," Dotson told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. "What I do know is that two officers were involved and fired shots, but I don't know exactly where they were standing yet and I won't know until I get their statements."

Authorities haven't said exactly where in the back Ball-Bay was shot. Police haven't released the full autopsy or toxicology tests yet, and have not explained why they don't yet have statements from the officers.

Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/Autopsy-Suspect-killed-by-St-Louis-police-was-6457374.php

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Autopsy: Suspect killed by St. Louis police was shot in back (Original Post) Judi Lynn Aug 2015 OP

being shot in back hurts officers story Robbins Aug 2015 #1

It hurts if there isn't any evidence to suggest there was an exchange of gunfire PersonNumber503602 Aug 2015 #5

It's the latest thing. Hoodlums, running backward and charging police officers. valerief Aug 2015 #2

Mansur... Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #3

"Police...have not explained why they don't yet have statements from the officers." graegoyle Aug 2015 #4

police murdered another and use the "serve a search warrant" tactic to justify their actions. Sunlei Aug 2015 #6

Where and when did that happen? pocoloco Aug 2015 #8

Bugs Bunny said it. Wolf Frankula Aug 2015 #7

That's always a bit suspicious, now isn't it? :) candelista Aug 2015 #9

It really depends on where the cops were NickB79 Aug 2015 #10

Reporters were later shown Joe Vance Aug 2015 #11

Robbins

(5,066 posts)

1. being shot in back hurts officers story

Reply to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Fri Aug 21, 2015, 03:42 PM

Aug 2015

if they shot him because he was pointing gun at them he should have been shot in front.

As missouri DE it continues to show the racial problems In MO.

PersonNumber503602

(1,134 posts)

5. It hurts if there isn't any evidence to suggest there was an exchange of gunfire

Reply to Robbins (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 21, 2015, 05:10 PM

Aug 2015

If there is evidence of bullets fired toward the police, then there is always a possibility that he was shot while moving to a different location. I personally wouldn't feel comfortable declaring them guilty based on solely on that fact, I would want to see more evidence. Which I understand may be hard for some given how many unjustified shootings we have had in these recent years.

valerief

(53,235 posts)

2. It's the latest thing. Hoodlums, running backward and charging police officers.

Reply to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Fri Aug 21, 2015, 03:49 PM

Aug 2015

Makes more sense than a racist, 'roided killer cop, right?

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)

3. Mansur...

Reply to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Fri Aug 21, 2015, 03:57 PM

Aug 2015

Stop KKKiller KKKops

graegoyle

(532 posts)

4. "Police...have not explained why they don't yet have statements from the officers."

Reply to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Fri Aug 21, 2015, 04:27 PM

Aug 2015

I have a good idea why they don't have the officers' statements yet.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)

6. police murdered another and use the "serve a search warrant" tactic to justify their actions.

Reply to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Fri Aug 21, 2015, 05:15 PM

Aug 2015

pocoloco

(3,180 posts)

8. Where and when did that happen?

Reply to Sunlei (Reply #6)

Fri Aug 21, 2015, 10:57 PM

Aug 2015

Do you have all the details?

Wolf Frankula

(3,601 posts)

7. Bugs Bunny said it.

Reply to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Fri Aug 21, 2015, 05:23 PM

Aug 2015

"Only a Big Fat Rat would shoot a guy in the back."

We need to demilitarize the police. Police work should involve the use of minimum force, not maximum. Police are NOT soldiers.

Wolf

candelista

(1,986 posts)

9. That's always a bit suspicious, now isn't it? :)

Reply to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Fri Aug 21, 2015, 11:10 PM

Aug 2015

Bernard Goetz shot one of his victims in the back, too. Bernie got off on all the serious charges, but this particular shooting always bothered me a little.

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/goetz/goetzaccount.html

NickB79

(19,253 posts)

10. It really depends on where the cops were

Reply to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Fri Aug 21, 2015, 11:24 PM

Aug 2015

If the young man pointed the gun back at one cop while running, and another cop was more off to the side and fired in defense of his partner, the gunshot to the back wouldn't be unusual.

Joe Vance

(4 posts)

11. Reporters were later shown

Reply to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat Aug 22, 2015, 06:36 PM

Aug 2015

Video of body cams worn by cops which seem to indicate suspect was aiming a weapon at police.

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