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Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 10:32 AM Aug 2015

Stock Market Turmoil: Dow Plummets More Than 1,000 Points at Open

Source: NBCNews.com

Stocks nose-dived at the opening bell Monday on Wall Street. Within minutes of the first trades, the Dow Jones industrial average plunged 1,000 points.

The decline extended the losses of last week, already the worst for the stock market in four years.

Investors grew nervous two weeks ago when China devalued its currency, raising concerns that the world's second-largest economy — a huge market for American products — is not nearly as healthy as it appeared.

Stocks quickly bounced back somewhat, and a half-hour into trading the Dow was down about 600 points. The biggest single-day point decline for the Dow was 777 points, during the financial crisis in September 2008.

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Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/business/markets/stock-market-turmoil-dow-plummets-more-1-000-points-open-n414746



I'll add 2 assholes comments from the article:

s in August 1997, 1998, 2007 and 2008 we could be in the early stage of a very serious situation.
— Lawrence H. Summers (@LHSummers) August 24, 2015

and

Markets are crashing - all caused by poor planning and allowing China and Asia to dictate the agenda. This could get very messy! Vote Trump.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 24, 2015


Even professional clown Jim Cramer says it's gonna be a bad day!
Ya think?

So far, the Dow has clawed back to being down "only" 350pts.
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Stock Market Turmoil: Dow Plummets More Than 1,000 Points at Open (Original Post) Fuddnik Aug 2015 OP
"by allowing China and Asia to dictate the agenda" Roland99 Aug 2015 #1
he's drooling to fearmonger this whole stock market situation.... SummerSnow Aug 2015 #2
Actually- James48 Aug 2015 #3
Esp. with the PPT on the case Roland99 Aug 2015 #4
Feel free to buy all you want. Fuddnik Aug 2015 #6
Some day traders just made a lot of money when it bounced back up to 16000. yellowcanine Aug 2015 #7
The market is already recovering from early losses. OKNancy Aug 2015 #5
We'll continue to make our regular 401(k) and taxable investments according to schedule... brooklynite Aug 2015 #9
Yup. If I had some extra, I'd be investing right now! OKNancy Aug 2015 #12
My Apple stock is actually up today... brooklynite Aug 2015 #13
I saw that, right after noon. mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2015 #14
I believe, what with international business packman Aug 2015 #8
hmmm Donald Trump.. hmmm Hobby Lobby? PatrynXX Aug 2015 #10
So, yeah, lets get rig of Social Security... SpankMe Aug 2015 #11
Stocks Pare Losses but Market Upheaval Continues. elleng Aug 2015 #15
Sometimes it's a blessing to be in a cubicle all day long. mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2015 #16
Lucky you! elleng Aug 2015 #17
Maybe.... mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2015 #20
Thanks. I 'pay' managers, elleng Aug 2015 #21
Sometimes its best to pay managers... virgdem Aug 2015 #26
Yes, they surely follow things more closely than I do, elleng Aug 2015 #27
I understand... virgdem Aug 2015 #35
If Jim Cramer says it's gonna be a bad day csziggy Aug 2015 #18
I haven't heard any wailing or seen any mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2015 #22
I suspect it will be barely down by the end of the day. People should just hang tight. yellowcanine Aug 2015 #23
White statement just now says predictions are reduced for China csziggy Aug 2015 #24
4-5 % would actually be better for the long term. yellowcanine Aug 2015 #25
Great Sam Seder interview last week with Ann Lee about the fake China crisis: byronius Aug 2015 #19
'Fake' China crisis? elleng Aug 2015 #29
Listen to the interview. Ann Lee explains succinctly. byronius Aug 2015 #30
taking my money out and putting it is something less risky.... olddad56 Aug 2015 #28
What pisses me off here is that the media doesn't get it. PatrickforO Aug 2015 #31
They aren't panicking, they are stealing profits. newthinking Aug 2015 #34
— a huge market for American products — november3rd Aug 2015 #32
Oh noes! We're all gonna get the Ebola! 6000eliot Aug 2015 #33

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
1. "by allowing China and Asia to dictate the agenda"
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 10:48 AM
Aug 2015

wow...what an ignorant buffoon. He really doesn't have a single fucking clue as to how the world really works. He thinks he can bloviate and bully anyone to do whatever he wants. Might work when bankrupting four businesses but sure as fuck won't work on the world stage.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
2. he's drooling to fearmonger this whole stock market situation....
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 10:55 AM
Aug 2015

got his people working on it right now.

James48

(4,441 posts)
3. Actually-
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 10:56 AM
Aug 2015

this is a heck of buying opportunity for anyone who has been looking for a good entry point to get back into the market.

I have been through the 1987 crash, the early 90's retreat, the internet bubble, the crash of 2008.

Folks- there is nothing to see here on this one. It's MINOR compared to many moves of the markets- and the only reason it's even getting any press at all is that we've gone months and months and months with only positive moves of the market.


Pour yourself another cup of coffee- everything will work out just fine.,

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
6. Feel free to buy all you want.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 11:12 AM
Aug 2015

But, if I want to use my money in a casino, I'll go across town to the Seminole Hard Rock.

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
7. Some day traders just made a lot of money when it bounced back up to 16000.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 11:13 AM
Aug 2015

My hunch is it could be over 17000 by the end of the week. A lot of this is in response to the Shanghi market which was way over priced and was due for a major correction. Even at 16000, we are still down only 11% from the high of around 18000. The Dow was probably a bit overpriced at 18000. Anyone in for the long term should be buying at anything below 16000, imo.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
5. The market is already recovering from early losses.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 11:06 AM
Aug 2015

THe US economy is doing just fine, so these Asian market dips are just temporary IMO.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,621 posts)
14. I saw that, right after noon.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 12:36 PM
Aug 2015

It was the only green ink on the entire page. That ought to tell you something about my portfolio.

Best wishes.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
8. I believe, what with international business
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 11:13 AM
Aug 2015

that American companies have a great deal of their interests in the Chinese market. If the Chinese market catches the flu, the American markets are going to catch a cold. The markets world-wide are an octopus with its tentacles reaching into places you and I will never know of. Rather naive to think a plunging major market wouldn't affect our market.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
10. hmmm Donald Trump.. hmmm Hobby Lobby?
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 12:11 PM
Aug 2015

3 cheers for Hobby Lobby and their Chinese crap face palm. yeah somehow people are at fault for what goes on in china.

I can't say Sanders is knee deep in China. but everyone else. probably hence why the TPP is really gonna suck.

SpankMe

(2,969 posts)
11. So, yeah, lets get rig of Social Security...
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 12:16 PM
Aug 2015

...and let everyone invest their own money in private retirement accounts. That'll work!

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,621 posts)
16. Sometimes it's a blessing to be in a cubicle all day long.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 12:42 PM
Aug 2015

I didn't know about last Friday's decline until the markets had closed. I just never checked during the day.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,621 posts)
20. Maybe....
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 01:02 PM
Aug 2015

Tomorrow it could be up, or it could be down even more.* If I knew the answer to that, I'd be shopping for my own Magna Carta.

I did buy some shares this morning. I had a limit order in place over the weekend, but when I read the news yesterday, I made sure to cancel it and replace it with an order at a lower price. It executed all by itself while I was working. I could have paid less, but then again, that's why I'm in a cubicle instead of teleworking from Aspen.

Best wishes.

* I had originally written, "Tomorrow it could be up, or it could be worse." But if you're a buyer, "worse" is better.

virgdem

(2,127 posts)
26. Sometimes its best to pay managers...
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 01:45 PM
Aug 2015

as they have the inside track on the market. I just had a discussion with my financial guy and he had indicated a market correction in our discussions about 6 months ago, and that is now taking place. It's also a very good time to buy, and that's what I did, albeit at a lower price than I would have initially. Stay the course is the best advice at this time.

elleng

(131,136 posts)
27. Yes, they surely follow things more closely than I do,
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 01:50 PM
Aug 2015

and likely 'staying the course,' as I'm a low/moderate risk investor.

virgdem

(2,127 posts)
35. I understand...
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 09:22 PM
Aug 2015

I'm also a low/moderate risk investor as well. With the market volatility the way it is right now, I am carefully weighing what to invest in. And since I don't know the companies the way my financial adviser does, I rely on his advice. I had a Vanguard account about 15 years ago, a "do it yourself" investment mutual fund, but I didn't really know what I was doing.

csziggy

(34,138 posts)
18. If Jim Cramer says it's gonna be a bad day
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 12:45 PM
Aug 2015

I'm not going to worry - he tends to be wrong much of the time.

Right now the Dow is at -123.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,621 posts)
22. I haven't heard any wailing or seen any
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 01:10 PM
Aug 2015

gnashing of teeth here at the $workplace. People are checking online, but life goes on.

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
23. I suspect it will be barely down by the end of the day. People should just hang tight.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 01:16 PM
Aug 2015

The Chinese markets were way over priced and are correcting. Yes there may be some reduced demand from China but they are still projected to grow at nearly 7%. I don't see any reason to panic at the moment.

csziggy

(34,138 posts)
24. White statement just now says predictions are reduced for China
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 01:20 PM
Aug 2015

Down to 4-5% if I heard right - but I was not paying full attention.

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
25. 4-5 % would actually be better for the long term.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 01:39 PM
Aug 2015

High growth rates are unsustainable for an economy the size of China's.

PatrickforO

(14,592 posts)
31. What pisses me off here is that the media doesn't get it.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 02:13 PM
Aug 2015

The Wall Street lizards have once again created a bubble, and are now panicking because China's economy has stalled. So EVERYBODY panics. Traders panic. Institutional investors panic. Fund managers panic. CEOs feel pressured and panic.

Then, guess what?

The first thing the CEOs will do is try and bolster their share value by cutting costs. This means they will cut benefits and lay off workers.

So, bottom line, Wall Street panics, and on Main Street people have their lives ruined.

Reminds me of Voltaire's work Candide. It is a philosophical treatise against the idea that this is the best possible world. Yes, they had that meme in Voltaire's time and yes, we have it now. How many times have you been arguing with a conservative, and when you point out the evil things the USA has done, they answer, well this is STILL the best country to live in. Our way represents the LEAST possible evil, they say.

But in Voltaire's work, after his protagonist Candide has been kicked out of his home for falling in love with someone in a higher class, conscripted, flogged, starved, flogged again and then is the victim of an earthquake, Voltaire has him look around - bloodied, in shock - and say, "If this is the best possible world, then what are the others like?"

By the way, if you haven't read Candide, it is easy reading and Voltaire is funny. I think I would have liked him.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
34. They aren't panicking, they are stealing profits.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 03:41 PM
Aug 2015

The big wall street banks get special buy/sell rights, seriously. Their orders come before the rest.

The next crash will be very different than the 30's as the rich will likely come out of it even richer or with very little hit.

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