This has to be stopped. I wonder if any Democrats went along with this too.

Absolutely no one from the political class wants to admit that election theft is even a possibility. The typical song and dance is that admitting it is possible will demoralize the electorate. Seriously? Can we do any worse? Half the eligible voting public doesn't even bother. At least half of those that do vote based on misinformation, disinformation, or no information.
Thanks to newer channels of communication it's possible to get a bit of truth through the media filters. That's why they have to resort to manipulating elections more directly. Any serious investigation should be able to blow the whole thing up and might even get Joe And Jane Smith to pay attention and be informed.

And were given a piece of the pie to shut up. The facts were just to readily apparent and accessible.

to have been screwed by other "Democrats".

And the Democratic Party's silence on this issue is very telling.

Imagine, for example, a Republican that is ideologically far right in their political persuasion. They pose as a Democrat because as a Democrat they can create all sorts of havoc for the party. Not too much of a stretch is it?

by moral or ethical constraints.

So you can pretty much assume that it is happening somewhere.

I told her, "I could never do that. Tell people I'm a republican? No fucking way." You should have seen her expression.

It's ALWAYS OK If It's a Republican.

The question is obviously rhetorical - they have something to hide. I’d love to see the provision in the law they’re referring to that allegedly prohibits this. Surely any reasonable person would want an investigation if there was any hint of impropriety.

....the question is how much and exactly how are they 'flipping' votes

Got any other excuses?

Just to put everyone's minds at ease. Even if they're not subject to the Kansas open records act.

I imagine the "open records act" was written long before the introduction of super-secret corporate proprietary voting software.

an appeals process barely gives them the time they need to get everything looking nice and shiny.

this, or you are too stupid for words for sitting in a math class believing what you are told. And the parents ought to be charged with child neglect, for putting you on this plantation.

Or maybe math is a science they should pay attention to...and just maybe you should all stay home until Kansas delivers the goods. (That will cost them Federal funds every day you aren't there - get you some attention).

The reason this is important is because your parents may have voted differently, and if they are going to show you by example how to just sit, do nothing, and take it, perhaps as they were taught, we shouldn't be surprised if that's what we get from you in the future.

Time to get uppity in the face of the Kansas "officials" and help the mathematician out.

are located in Sedgwick County.

though I doubt they're around very much. They're too busy trying to corrupt politicians that aren't yet completely corrupt. In KS I'm afraid the Republicans own everything. In this last election, if it were possible to find out what the "real" results were, I would bet that the Independent actually won the senatorial race and the Dem actually won the gubernatorial race. Kobach might have wono his re-election but he didn't win by 17% as recorded on the machines. I would bet almost any amount of money on that.

All the political pundits everywhere ignore the voting machines. People think you're crazy to even suggest that the voting machines might be compromised. Even Mitofsky, the pollster, immediately decided that the exit polls must have been wrong because they indicated that Kerry won the 04 election. Why? He came up with the Reluctant Bush Responder theory, that the Republicans were less likely to respond to exit polling, and so refused to participate. No evidence for this theory whatever. The only evidence in its favor is that the exit polls recorded more Kerry votes than the actual results. Ergo, it must be the Reluctant Bush Responder. If an election goes one way, it's considered gospel truth and pundits don't look over at the pretty voting machines. They have the same machines that keep track of your bank account, that give you a receipt at the grocery store. What could be the problem?

I'll tell you the problem: When my bank sends me a bank statement printed out by Diebold, I CAN CHECK WHETHER THEIR FIGURES ARE CORRECT OR NOT ON PAPER. I GET THE PAPER TO LOOK AT AND VERIFY.

With the voting machines, you can't verify ANYTHING. Maybe one or two states provide for a procedure for some verification.

People wonder why there are so many crazies in Congress. MAYBE THEY SHOULD LOOK AT THE VOTING MACHINES!!!

..... and they along w/many others were surprised when he won re-election.

They are hugely guilty of this, always wanting to be the first network to call the winner, & in some cases, even if they're wrong.

My county has paper ballots, but they are scanned into a tabulator. Well, there you go - once the vote is digital, it's easier to manipulate. We need paper ballots & to take the time to count them. Okay, so you won't know the winner for a few days. Big deal. The prez doesn't get inaugurated until January anyway, so what the fuck is a few days?

I'm already sick of the 2016 election & it's over a year away. I'm surprised Americans don't demand a law with shorter election cycles. It's insane.

This pattern of increasing Republican votes in larger precincts was discussed at length in the 2012 elections. A number of very rigorous papers by well-respected statisticians were released at the time. Will try to find and post links. This is a huge potential problem for the 2016 elections.

I will never believe that Walker won his recall election fair and square. Both Madison
and Milwuakee turned out heavy and those were the key metrics to watch to see
if the vote was going to be tough on Walker but "bingo" the vote came in and Walker
stayed in power. I watched the recall process as well as could and I noticed that some
very red counties in N.W. Wisconsin had almost as many people signing the recall petition
then voted for Walker in the previous election.

Time after time we have seen or caught the republicans cheating in the counting of the vote,
making it hard for "the wrong people to vote," or screaming about "voter fraud" in order to
get voter ID laws or to run software programs * that stop people from voting twice which doesn't
happen and still our "liberal media," the state and national democratic party, or the DoJ doesn't
say or do shit.

Republicans cheat, end of story.

* http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016106761

and the votes that were "found", strangely, all for Walker.

they did it to themselves. Do the Koch's have an office or something there? It is the most conservative County in WI. What are the chances that this is where the water wars concerning privatization will start?

...feel the need to win this one even if there is no underlying fraud. They want the precedent set that state officials don't have to give out voting data to anyone ever.

Repeal their Open Records act. Why does the public need the ability to examine trivial stuff like voting records anyway? We've already told them that we won - what more do these fools want??!!

I've gotta wonder is we'll be hearing about a "John Doe" investigation in Kansas any time soon?

I think she is going to go after them. I hope. As far as the Koch Bros. I drove down 37th finally a few days back. Koch Engineering is on that street between Hillside and Oliver. It used to be the buildings were on the south side and the parking is on the north side. No longer, they rerouted 37th, it curves now, and you have to go past a guard shack a big gate to get to the parking and walk to the buildings, and their is a huge fence all the way around it. That was the first time I noticed that. Hmmmmm-

Either Kobach has something to hide (almost certainly) or he is carrying water for his party and not wanting to open up the door to for other corrupt Republicans to have their crimes uncovered (probably that too).

The same state that had its then-Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell operating as chair for Bush-Cheney in that state.
Recall that Stephen Connell, owner of a company called GovTech that was involved in vote logistics, was called to testify regarding discrepancies in tallying. A few days before the hearing, he crashed while piloting his plane.

http://freepress.org/departments/display/19/2011/4239

. . . this will be fought out in the courts and eventually appealed to the Kansas Supreme Court, where Clarkson's suit will be dismissed for lack of standing.

After decades of stacking the courts with Federalist Society sorts, there is little chance that an honest decision would be made.

is why Brownback is threatening to totally defund the court if it keeps trying to force him to follow the law instead of playing dictator:

. . . but I don't think I am, sadly enough.

Kobach contends records sought by Wichita State University mathematician Beth Clarkson aren’t subject to the Kansas open records act, and their disclosure’s prohibited under state law

Not front page news every where but that there are no democrats holding press conferences demanding these records be released. Debbie Wasserman where are you ?

to make sure Sanders is NOT the Democratic nominee.

She's got NO time left to insure that the ReThuglicans don't steal more elections.

Every time I think about how she did nothing to support Chris Christie's opponent in the last gubernatorial race I see red. And I'm not even from Jersey!

She's a moron.

I live South of Topeka. I do not recall, and maybe my mind is too blurry with the national stuff right now, that the election officials in your county were in this before. Did they just get into the mix?

Ms. Lehman if this is true, "Sedgwick County’s Election Commissioner contends supplying the voting logs is “unnecessarily burdensome” because they’re hard to copy.", perhaps the job is too much for you and you should consider stepping down before you have to deal with another election.

I would go after her with all you have. An ELECTION is just to hard to verify? BS, just BS and she needs to be taken to task by you all in her county.

if they refuse to release the records, nobody would ever suspect them of cheating!

Of course, every day you stay in power is a small victory!

I would love to hear/see the local press question him about his keen interest in voter fraud while blocking research into election fraud.

Why in the world -- after nearly 7 years of a Democratic admin. -- is this shit
still polluting what's left of our democracy?

I imagine there is either an overt or a covert understanding, too, that some of the long term "moderate" i.e., either conservative or center-right Dem incumbents) will not be too forcefully challenged by Republican candidates as long as they don't rock the hackable voting machine boat. Our system is pervasively rigged, but it's been handled a bit less obviously than giving the candidates the 99% the way Third World dictators tend to do.

Right.

just happens to be in Kansas and spotting the numbers in a recent Kansas election in which the results defied explanation and drastically countered what the polls were showing.

you trying to hide Kobach ?

But I think CT have gotten a bad rap. We need to pay attention to some. Of course we don't want the site cluttered with crazy-ass stuff, but open-minded liberals can tell the difference. But some like to use the fear of CT to advance their own agenda by only alerting on CT that doesn't match their world view.

Texas is notorious for stealing elections.

which, when you think about it, is an acceptable tool used by the media and
politicians to tell America what they think. A VERY powerful tool, and yet polls are so unreliable and malleable.

And exit polls suddenly became unreliable and worthless.

them and voted (used mail-in)

IMO, I don't think its the machines that change the 'final counts', but some of the ballots submitted (early vote?/"helper" votes?/mail-in votes?, are fraud votes.

My only regret is that I can only recommend it ONCE.

When Clarkson noticed the funny numbers, it was big. But now that Kobach is trying to BLOCK an inquiry into them....it's become HUGE.

Please keep us up to date!

way they win, without the steal, they've got nothing!

Why isn't the public outcry deafening...because so many voters know their votes aren't counted, and the voices have been replaced by big money buying all the influence they need to keep scamming & pillaging. Where is our Congress? In their pockets...passing through the golden revolving door...and the dance continues...

The only way they win is through dishonest means. Lying, voter disenfranchisement, shady redistricting, and easily manipulated e-voting.

theres fire!

It will be sooo sweet to see republicans busted for vote fraud, a crime they accuse democrats of 24/7!

Hmmm . . . I wonder. It couldn't possibly be the real voter fraud takes place within the machines rather than by a sole voter in a booth.

And even more so that a corporation is counting our votes.

nope. can't have 'em.

pfft.

Private owned computers that are safe from examined by people.

Now we know why R's win so many elections.