Could not take the yelling from him. I hope they have a good replacement.

But it was his voice that drove me nuts.

Me too.

His off-camera life and his on-camera life were conflicts of interest.

Hey, MSNBC, how about hiring a journalist and not a pundit?

yelling, therefore, I seldom watched.

I am not fond of the new boss, Lack. Whatta name. Really suits him

Couldn't stand him in the past but recently gained new respect...he had been saying good stuff about Bernie.

I hope all these folks will move over to Free Speech TV.

Rev Al also has a radio show

I tend to grab the remote. He may be an excellent activist and spokesperson for civil rights, but he is an awful television host. I thought maybe he'd grow into it, but I don't see as he ever got better. I rather enjoy him when he is a guest on a program though. Meanwhile, I don't think he was ever comfortable in the job and claims he really would prefer a Sunday morning show.

probably better.

MSNBC seems to have decided the way to beat Fox is to join them

All these evening shows get kind of boring to me, it's all the horse race stuff. The one I do like is Chris Hayes, who I feel has the most substantive guests on.

Peace

8 am Sunday is when "Up" is on, isn't it? (Saturday and Sunday)

but two hours on Saturday. It's a shame what's happened to UP. It used to be must-watch TV back when Chris hosted it, full of lively intelligent conversation. With Steve, even though I like him, it's less intellectually adventurous and more inside baseball-ish. I loved the policy discussions that used to happen; I can watch a show about horserace politics any day on any cable news station and not wake up at 5 AM Pacific to do it.

Up and Chris Hayes were the perfect match.

I really enjoyed "Up" when Hayes hosted it. It reminded me of the stimulating talk shows from the 70s. I like Kornacki, but two straight hours of him is too much some days.

Afternoon Joe? Expanding Chuck Todd to 2 hours? That network is a train wreck. Rachel and Chris should get out now while the getting is good. It's only a matter of time before they'll get the axe along with the rest of them.

can't stand Morning Joke.

I saw a thread here today that DISH is dropping a lot of it's channels! Won't know what to do because my hubby doesn't do ANYTHING that you need a PC or laptop or anything of that sort to watch.

Hasn't been dropped yet, but Thom Hartmann is always complaining about Comcast & how they seem to drop his phone calls. I don't know what's going to happen. I stopped watching MSNBC when they made their last drop of shows. They were the only ones I wanted to watch so decided I could find something else. And they re-run all news shows after 8:00 PM if I wanted to catch Chris or Rachel.

Can you say SCREWED??

Something happened to my knee. Not very familiar with ROKU so will have to do some research. So far I haven't seen anything dropped, but will check my account with DISH soon. My knee is now as big as a softball, guess I should have gone to the Dr. and now it's Friday night!

Thanks for the link, really appreciate your help and will look into what can be done if they drop FSTV. Gotta deal with this knee right now though. Weird??

My daughter has a Master's degree as an ARNP & my son-in-law will be graduating soon with his. Gonna call them now. Weird???

BBC America. Also look for Al Jazeera America.

One of the only reasons I watch TV is Rachel

that any trace of liberals would be gone by mid-2016 so they could join ALL the other corporate media as cheerleaders for the Fox candidate for president? Sure a surprise.

This will leave free speech TV as about the only non-corporate media on the cable as far as I know. It is hard to find of course unless you have dish or direct.

Rachel, Chris, Lawrence, better update those resumes

although to be honest, I haven't watched since KO left. Followed him to Current, then when that went down I just stopped watching tv at night. Too many better things to do anyway.

my 2 cents

mostly Ed and Rev. Al. Shortly after Comcast took over there must have been an edict that there be at least one or more Repugs in every discussion. They seldom added much but talking points. Truly cringe worthy

Person can only watch crap like that for so long before deciding that you are watching the building being torn down and it is time to move on.

the powers at Comcast trashed it up with panels and RW talking heads.
But I still like Al. For me he was one of the few black voices on the cable worth listening to.

terrible.

how major networks run to him looking for a sound byte. I'm not an African American so I don't claim to speak for the black community, but it seems to me there's a lot of diversity of opinion out there and the major news media just want controversy without any intellect. That's why I can't watch MSNBC anymore, even though I probably agree with their worldview more than the other networks. Pretty much PBS and NPR for me these days.

don't know how you do it.

PBS still seems to be somewhat independent.

If someone stubs their toe on a Cairo street and gets cholera from it, we get a 5-minute extended correspondent feature on it.

But when we suffer horrible scandals and crimes and discrimination and corruption here in the U.S., they instead play "Americana" with the news.

Only the local news feeds are still worth anything on NPR.

out of Florida, has been co-opted by.....CNBC!!!

So, that has become a joke...

The best at night is Global Business America, on MHz Networks. It's from CCTV (China) and is excellent!...It comes on at 9 pm MT, right after the mysteries.
However, the international mysteries will be going subscription, so I'm not sure how that will affect the schedule at night. It will be news, as it is during the day, just not sure yet of the exact evening lineup.

http://www.mhznetworks.org/

You can watch live at the above site!!
ALso, our local PBS station which carries MHz on an added channel also streams it....just search for KRWG, Las Cruces...

Later in the day/early evening it's a great lineup of France 24, RT (Russia), and NHK (Japan)....I watch constantly! During the day, there is Ireland, Taiwan, DW (Germany), Ireland, Korea, etc. etc. FANTASTIC!!!

In favor of more RW corporate "mainstream" false equivalence ridden pap

right-wingers fully intended to dump him maybe even before they got their pudgy, pasty little flabby white hands on the network.

When Ed went, we should have realized they do intend to work steadily toward an all racist, all right-wing, belligerent chicken-hawk link-up around the clock, more Joe-like shows the moment his signs off, throughout the day and night.

As soon as they bought it, the days for progressives were numbered.

Hateful, greedy, primitive assholes.

Rev. Al's show lasted as long as it did due to an alleged quid pro quo between Comcast and the FCC concerning diversity. When Comcast didn't need his support, off he went. He actually got worse ratings than Ed Schultz and Alex Wagner. Warning: Mind numbing raw figures.

I fully expect that Chris Hayes will be next, then Lawrence O'Donnell. For the 2016, should they still be a network in it's current format, Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews, "Morning Joe", Andrea Mitchell, Chuck Todd, and Tamron Hall should be safe, everyone else could be jettisoned. I can also see MSNBC revert to the America's Talking format that proceeded it, which was essentially right-wing radio for moving pictures.

and hired Michael (Wiener) Savage.

Unbelievable.

A change is due us from years and years ago.

And I don't understand why he gets a weekend show.

He should have never been given his own show.

Thanks in advance.

How about when he falsely accused a group of 6 white men, including police officers and a prosecuting attorney, of kidnapping and gang raping Tawana Brawley. He never did apologize or pay the settlement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tawana_Brawley_rape_allegations

He is a race baiter of the highest order. He accuses people of racism where there is non to cause racial unrest.

according to Joan Walsh, a very respected progressive.

From his Wikipedia:

. . .

He has worked as a columnist for Salon magazine, whose Joan Walsh in 2001 described him as a "conservative provocateur."[3] Southern Poverty Law Center has designated his news organization as a hate group in 2008.

David Horowitz says Palestinians are Nazis

If my net scooped up Horowitz I could chuck him back in and fish around for someone else. There isn't actually a shortage on Sharpton shit floating about.

Anyway Judi Lynn. I have to dash. I don't wan to get my post count too high.

Try doing a little skip/hop/jump now again to break up the monotony of the lock-step thing.

Take care xx

and the fact that thirty years ago he said some terrible things. But to compare what happened in Crown Heights to a "pogrom" is both hyperbolic and ignorant of history, in part because the tensions in Crown Heights were already quite high before Yankel Rosenbaum

Are you o.k.?

this guy calling Rev. Sharpton racist will probably like the new Repukes line-up

Sorry but I can't march in lock step with you on this one.

Have a gander at my post above.

lol you thought I was a new poster with such a low post count. I was one of the people who saw the founders of DU on TV standing in the street with their banner. I was so glad to talk to sane people during that year, but we always can't agree on everything here.

Next you will be calling me a racist for hating a this man who happens to be black.

See my post above.

I would always wonder about someone who would despise any black person and insist he/she is a "racist."

The hater really doesn't have the same real perspective, and he/she really doesn't care.

Ignorant, apathetic. Doesn't seem possible with so many opportunities to have had access real information so long ago about what has happened in this country, and how absolutely EVIL it was/is.

See my post above.

When Keith left the shows are all the same and even spend the entire hour talking about the same issues. I used to watch Rachael but since she is all about Bernie I have turned her out.

Sharpton as a "journalist" is a total joke, no matter how much on the side of history his positions are.

he is very good at laying out the issues in a logical way. Always thought his show was well organized.He won over some of my "R" relatives because of the way he defined the issues.
I never thought he was yelling.
Really sorry to hear this - the station is going to be FOX light in no time.

I'm white and I see some racial remarks by some of you !! I believe he was highly organized too.

Where are we to going to tell the truth anymore?

Can a democratic billionaire start a news station that can get our word out?

we really don't have anything to compete with the huge rw media.

The show grated on my last nerve. I don't blame Comcast for this. He should have been dropped long before Ed.

I'll kind of miss him, but it's not the end of the earth. I'm more interested in getting Rachel back up to snuff so she doesn't repeat herself 20 times during her show. She's smarter than that.

its not just me? I adore Rachel, but I'm having a hard time watching her anymore. It feels too much like the same information is repeated over and over again. After an hour it seems like I get maybe five minutes of information, plus several teasers. I used to like that Rachel gave very detailed explanations on issues, but now its starting to feel more like her segments are stuffed with irrelevant filler material.

I suppose this would probably be effective if she were teaching a class, but it gets old really fast five nights a week.

I was kind of wondering if this is more a staffing and budget issue?

Sharpton has a lot of baggage from the Tawana Brawley issue, the Freddie Fashion Mart, the Comcast payout issue, etc., but he did bring important issues to the table.

being discussed with any depth and heart???

I didn't mind Sharpton, he did a pretty good job with guests...

It's pretty telling watching so many of these liberals, who bemoaned Ed, a white guy's dismissal, glad to see Sharpton gone.

Hm...

Look at this thread. Sharpton has been just as vocal of an advocate for progressive ideals than anyone on MSNBC and most here are glad to see him go and yet went to the mat hard for Ed.

and you don't know which of those were were liberals and which weren't.

As for me, I don't consider myself liberal, though many on this board would say I am. I knew about this thread only because I served on a jury involving a post on this thread. As soon as my jury duty ended, I came back to the thread to defend Sharpton, not something I generally do after jury duty. I see others who this board would consider liberal defending him too.

I'd say the right is far likelier to be glad to see him gone than liberals. You are knee jerk punching left for the sake of punching left and trying to make yourself right about it.

Pretty clear. When Ed was let go there were tons of threads of disappointment. For Sharpton? Happiness, despite there being one less progressive voice on MSNBC.

but he is a professional broadcaster and Al Sharpton is not. MSNBC has plenty of minority and progressive talent to draw from, but they gave a prime time slot to Sharpton, someone whose talents lie elsewhere.

all Trump, all damn day.

If I want news, I'll check the internet or al-Jazeera.

Never mind the rating Comcast wants the liberals out of there

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=37034

PERIOD..

His was the best show by far on MSNBC.....I guess a close 2nd would be "The Last Word" w/Lawrence O'Donnell

His guests are fine, but he's probably one of the least spontaneous people on television. Bring back ED!

Was it diet or surgery or what?

Yep. He's fun to watch.

It's not a secret. Sharpton doesn't get the ratings to remain on the air 5 days a week. Simple as that. MSNBC isn't a charity network for liberals.

The network will rebrand and reboot itself. Probably go for mostly hard news with some opinion shows ranging from center right to center left. Maddow will still be their prime time ratings draw at night. The rest will probably be gone within a year. I think weekday evenings will always lean left since surrounding Maddow with right wingers would just end up irritating audiences who tend to like to put a channel on and leave it there so long as their aren't radical changes in tone/politics.

for months he's been insulting MSNBC at least once a week. This morning he has the gall to discuss MSNBC's business:

JOE: He works for MSNBC. That was always the worst. Not any more, though, because things have changed. Thank you, Andy. That was the past, this is the now. Thank you, very much.

I thanked Andy Lack this morning for bringing a great news sensibility to the network. He & Phil are great at what they do and we're lucky.

because people haven't forgetten the Tawany Brawley hoax.

Every time someone can raise Rev. Al's name, a small stampede of racists gallop over immediately to try to refresh everyone's memory of a the racists' view of what happened.

They show up within a heartbeat anyone does them a favor by mentioning Rev. Al.

If they cared about knowing the truth, they would have an adult's understanding of the girl's story, and how it happened, and they'd pass, on trying to drag Rev. Al behind their cyber-pickups relentlessly.

Racists never really get the hatred out of their systems.

And he used a teenage girl to do it. The fact that racists hate Al doesn't make hating what Al did racist.

That didn't happen, as everyone knows.

I went back and looked at the whole event. Apparently my recollections of the entire affair are correct.

He's not for everyone. I like the way he works himself up over things.

I enjoy his unqualified positive regard and support of President Obama. Doesn't mean he always agrees with him.

and is going back to nowhere ?Who will give 6 months ?

First Ed Shultz and now rev.al. what is going on?

people on Sunday morning at 8 a.m. as people were getting ready to go to church and of course they'd be watching MSNBC (while taking a shower, shaving, putting on clothes, clearing breakfast dishes...I'm not kidding --- that's what they said!)

hey it could happen .

free, unfiltered TV time for Trump in the form of live coverage of his rallies as news events, while omitting the other candidates, including Bernie, who draws bigger crowds

While there are individuals who are trying their best. the network is the same corporate globalist crap you get everywhere else, and we should not legitimize them. This is a case where we are better off without them. This was the corporatists trying to neuter the progressive voice by appearing to embrace them. It was all bullshit.

I am sure Rev Al will find a way to be heard without MSNBC.

Al just didn't make it as broadcaster. He constantly misread the teleprompter, stumbled over names and inserted a lot of ah's er's. I kinda like Al, but I know I was constantly correcting him (talking to my TV again) on names and saying "Havig a little trouble talking tonight huh?"

It's tough to keep a TV show when you do stuff like that.

Bottom line. That is all there is to this change.

No network is going to keep someone around in a key timeslot who consistently gets awful ratings for a long period of time.

Sharpton's audience ceiling was also probably pretty low due to his checkered past to include the Tawana Brawley hoax.

I liked his show. I felt that he gave viewers a lot of information in the show and a lot less of the usual media talking points.

The statements about him "yelling" and "shouting" sound like comments from people who never bothered to watch his show.

MSNBC was never particularly liberal, but Comcast has determined that the few voices that did speak truth to power are to be silenced. Like most corporations, Comcast will smother dissenting voices, but it will not stop their downfall. Young people are not signing up for these services anymore. They will use their cell phones and computers for the media content they want to view.