Kentucky Clerk Once Again Denies Gay Marriage License, Despite Federal Order
Source: ASSOCIATED PRESS
MOREHEAD, Ky. (AP) A Kentucky clerk's office on Thursday again refused to issue a marriage license to a gay couple, in defiance of a U.S. Supreme Court ruling that legalized same-sex marriage across the country two months ago.
Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis has refused to issue any marriage licenses, citing her Christian faith and constitutional right to religious freedom, since the landmark decision in June.
On Thursday morning, a deputy clerk in her office refused to issue a marriage license to William Smith Jr. and James Yates. It was their third attempt to get a license. They said they will not give up.
"They just don't like gay people, they don't want us to get married," Yates said. "And they'd rather burn the earth and not let straight people in Rowan County get married either." The action Thursday came just a day after a federal appeals court upheld a ruling ordering the clerk in rural Rowan County to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples.
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Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/kim-davis-kentucky-clerk-again-denies-license
Court orders defiant Kentucky clerk to issue same-sex marriage licenses in compliance with SCOTUS ruling
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141189499
Contrary1
(12,629 posts)Where else can one continue to collect a paycheck while refusing to do their job?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Extensive discussion here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1189499
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)You advised everyone to drop their contempt-prison fantasies, and instead be consoled by the high likelihood that she would almost certainly lose the suit brought against her, and that there was a good chance she would need to pay out of her own pocket. You may have been referring to the Texas case, but either way, I was consoled. I've been having pleasant daydreams about her liquidating her Beanie Baby collection for $400 after finding out they're not worth the $75K she thought they were worth--all to pay damages she brought on herself.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)She may yet go to jail for contempt, and that will play out shortly.
She'll definitely have to pick up the tab for the other side's legal fees, but she's well-funded at this point.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)No doubt there is some legal remedy under the local law, but it is not going to be dismissal, that's for sure.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)on contempt of court charges, though.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)I didn't me that we could, I just kind of used the generic "you". They need to start smacking these fools down, and they will have to make a few examples out of people.
Botany
(70,506 posts)A panel of federal appeals judges refused to overrule a judge's injunction against Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis, who continues to refuse marriage licenses for same-sex couples more than a month after the U.S. Supreme Court found a constitutional right to marry.
Three judges with the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals denied Davis' request for a stay on Wednesday, writing that her official duties include issuing the forms and that the Supreme Court has already said states cannot bar same-sex couples from marriage.
"It cannot be defensibly argued that the holder of the Rowan County Clerks office, apart from who personally occupies that office, may decline to act in conformity with the United States Constitution as interpreted by a dispositive holding of the United States Supreme Court," the judges wrote. "There is thus little or no likelihood that the clerk in her official capacity will prevail on appeal."
http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/2015/08/26/appeals-court-denies-stay-rowan-co-clerk/32426123/
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)exboyfil
(17,863 posts)if fail to abide by oath should be incarcerated until such time resign or fulfill obligations of office.
4lbs
(6,857 posts)federal contempt of court?
randys1
(16,286 posts)punish them severely.
What they dont understand is there are now enough of us, whether it is Women's rights to their own bodies, Black people having a right to function and not be shot, or a Gay person being treated equally, that we now demand this and the alternative is chaos if we dont get it.
you can do the right thing or ultimately you will sow chaos
OhWiseOne
(74 posts)Let her be a martyr for the RWNJ thumpers. She has been married a whole bunch of times. Perfect example of the sanctity of marriage.
WhoWoodaKnew
(847 posts)Vinca
(50,273 posts)She's a pencil pusher who should be doing her job. She isn't marrying anyone. I'm sure there are plenty of people willing to fill her spot if she can't do her job.
makes nearly 80k a year. Not bad for a high school grad.
Scalded Nun
(1,236 posts)is the fact that these folks are still in their jobs. If they do not do what they are told, fire their asses. Do it on the grounds of refusing to perform their duties, on the grounds of insubordination, but do it on the grounds of a normal work flow process. Do not give them grounds to challenge, sue, etc.
Gays, blacks, Muslims - the motivation for their actions is irrelevant.
You do not do your job, your ass is out the door. End of story.
And that whole side story about dying for what you believe in...That is one of the best 'milk through the nose' lines I have heard in a while.
I realize Kentucky is a red state, but does no one there have any balls whatsoever? They sure act ballsy about so many other things.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)mitch and paul
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)that stuff on Rand's head qualifies as hair?
can't fire her because she was elected. She must be impeached.
dbackjon
(6,578 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,615 posts)After that, she will be breaking the law/in contempt of court.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)Take your 'holy' book and go home and read the fucking thing.
Then maybe you will understand what a contradictory rag it truly is.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)only option is fines/jail time for contempt of court.
my question is: what are they waiting for?! Fine her! Toss her bigoted, fake Christian ass in jail!
blackspade
(10,056 posts)I guess some jail time will be in her future.
BooHoo....
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)They shouldn't have to, but it would expedite Kim Davis' arrest.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)No, lady, it is not about you. Her and Zimmy, 2 of a kind.
ancianita
(36,057 posts)DavidDvorkin
(19,477 posts)The people are her boss.
ancianita
(36,057 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)The Kentucky house has 54 Democrats and 46 Republicans.
Republicans control the Kentucky State Senate.
Assuming impeachment works as it does at the Federal level, the House could impeach but she would not be convicted.
That assumes that Democrats would actually impeach her, an act that would amount to throwing a political torch into gasoline.
I assume that those she refuses to grant marriage licenses to could take her to court, or she could be arrested and tried for violation of civil rights.
DavidDvorkin
(19,477 posts)Here are the details about that office and others:
http://www.lrc.ky.gov/lrcpubs/ib114.pdf
ancianita
(36,057 posts)137 pages is just too much to peruse.
Maybe there are sovereignty strengths to states set up as commonwealths, I don't know.
I still think this isn't over.
CanonRay
(14,101 posts)and send the US Marshals to go arrest her ass?
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Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)I am really getting tired of people thinking that they have the right to use the 'god trump card' whenever they want
turbinetree
(24,701 posts)I wonder how she tells her children and other people how to be law abiding citizens
Contempt is Contempt and now the judge has the means to have her jailed------------------
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)stop molly coddling these fuck heads.
world wide wally
(21,743 posts)for the FADA bill (first amendment defense act)
I am quite sure she is getting attractive financial backing from Cruz and the boys to do so. The next step is getting her fired so thet can get the judicial ball rolling.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,457 posts)Herald-Leader Editorial
August 27, 2015 Updated 13 hours ago
....
Nothing reveals the absurdity of her position more clearly than her lawyer's response to the latest ruling against her. Liberty Counsel chairman Mat Staver continues to insist that elected public officials have a constitutional right to pick and choose which of their government duties they will perform based on their religious beliefs in other words, that public officials can use religion to discriminate against certain citizens.
Nothing could be more un-American. What he is advocating would destroy the rule of law, a foundation of our republic. And imagine the chaos, given the wide range of religious beliefs.
....
Churches and clergy are still free to limit marriage according to their religions' beliefs, but public officials must follow the law and treat all citizens equally.
Why Liberty Counsel chose Kentucky to make its losing stand is not clear; we do have one of the few governor's races this year. ... What is clear is that all the citizens of Rowan County are entitled to a full-service clerk's office that follows the Constitution. Davis should provide that or step aside.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)Next up? County Trustees refusing to take property taxes of gay people?
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,457 posts)by Larry DeHart
Casey County Clerk Casey Davis, who recently embarked on a bicycle ride from Pikeville to Paducah, made a stop at the Rowan County Courthouse on Friday morning to show his support for Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis, who is still refusing to issue marriage licenses despite a federal court ruling.
Dozens of people showed up Friday morning at the courthouse from both sides of the marriage argument to express their beliefs.
....
Casey said that he and Kim have no hatred for gay individuals or marriage equality supporters. But he said he cant let the authority of man supersede the authority of God or the authority of nature.
As for resigning, Casey said thats not an option.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Either process the license or sit ur stupid ass in jail, Kimmy.
GOLGO 13
(1,681 posts)She & her kind will OBEY or we will make you obey.
negoldie
(198 posts)Here is the link to the Herald Leader which was published today. My LTTE is next to last I believe. Check out the other letters too. Mine would be under my real name: shouldn't be hard to find just look for my initials. negoldie.
http://www.kentucky.com/2015/08/28/4009954/readers-views-rowan-county-clerk.html#