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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 11:13 PM Sep 2015

Amazon.com, Penn sued by family of student who killed herself

Source: Philadelphia Inquirer

The University of Pennsylvania and Amazon.com are being sued by the mother of a student who killed herself in 2013 with cyanide she allegedly purchased through the online retailer.

Arya Singh, 20, a junior in the School of Nursing, died Feb. 8, 2013, after ingesting soluble cyanide crystals in her dorm room.

Singh's life began to unravel after an alleged sexual assault in 2011 by a male student that she reported to authorities, the suit says. No charges were filed against the student, and he remained on campus.

In the two years that followed, Singh increasingly failed to show up for classes. On one occasion, she was arrested and hospitalized for alcohol intoxication. She was subject to multiple academic and misconduct investigations.

Read more: http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20150904_Amazon_com__Penn_sued_by_family_of_student_who_killed_herself.html

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Amazon.com, Penn sued by family of student who killed herself (Original Post) onehandle Sep 2015 OP
Sad story but doubt the suit is a winner yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #1
I have strong doubts the case will succeed. NutmegYankee Sep 2015 #2
Curious why the alleged sexual assault perpetrator wasn't prosecuted. Sienna86 Sep 2015 #3
What support did the university give her? angrychair Sep 2015 #4
even better... magical thyme Sep 2015 #10
How exactly is Amazon responsible for suicide? LisaL Sep 2015 #5
This is dumb pedro27 Sep 2015 #6
Cyanide crystals are available for online purchase?! 1monster Sep 2015 #7
The decongestant is a precursor to meth. JoeyT Sep 2015 #8
A couple of years ago, one of my many cats brought a rat into the house. 1monster Sep 2015 #9
misguided suing Amazon--ABSOLUTELY APPROPRIATE to sue U Penn. AND may I say.... BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2015 #11

NutmegYankee

(16,201 posts)
2. I have strong doubts the case will succeed.
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 12:28 AM
Sep 2015

The mother would have to prove that Amazon knew she intended to commit suicide, otherwise it's just a normal commercial transaction of a legal product.

Sienna86

(2,149 posts)
3. Curious why the alleged sexual assault perpetrator wasn't prosecuted.
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 07:48 AM
Sep 2015

Sad to see Ms. Singh killed herself. What support did he University offer?

angrychair

(8,733 posts)
4. What support did the university give her?
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 11:36 AM
Sep 2015

Typical support from a university: from story - "She was subject to multiple academic and misconduct investigations."

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
10. even better...
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 02:57 PM
Sep 2015

As she was getting into more trouble at the university, one official allegedly wrote in an email: "I have no sympathy for her [Arya Singh] - she deserves anything you dish out to her. Sorry not more sympathetic . . . needless to say I will not be serving as her adviser."
Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20150904_Amazon_com__Penn_sued_by_family_of_student_who_killed_herself.html#JSbX0SZHIkdSrFLk.99

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
5. How exactly is Amazon responsible for suicide?
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 11:43 AM
Sep 2015

What if somebody purchases a rope and hangs him/herself?

pedro27

(5 posts)
6. This is dumb
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 12:17 PM
Sep 2015

This is dumb.... then nobody should sell anything... you can commit suicide with almost everything!

1monster

(11,012 posts)
7. Cyanide crystals are available for online purchase?!
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 01:11 PM
Sep 2015

What could possibly go wrong?

Used to be that dangerous compounds like cyanide had to be signed for after showing valid ID. Heck, I can't even buy a tried and true decongestant over the counter without showing ID and I'm limited to 98 tablets per month, yet, if I wanted, I could buy cyanide online with no restrictions?

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
8. The decongestant is a precursor to meth.
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 01:38 PM
Sep 2015

Not that I agree with the way that was handled either, but that's the war on drugs for you.

I've never had to show an ID for rat poison that contained warfarin, and it will kill you just as dead as cyanide. If we try to ban or restrict everything someone could possibly use to commit suicide, it's going to make for a very strange world.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
9. A couple of years ago, one of my many cats brought a rat into the house.
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 02:04 PM
Sep 2015

Then, instead of catching the rat, the cats just watched it as it took off through the house.

It ended up in the master bedroom bath, and apparently, it felt safe there because it didn't leave. After trying several "safe traps" we were finally reduced to buying rat poison.

I got one of those plastic cereal boxes and put some of the poison in it. Sure enough, that night we heard the rat going into the cereal box and it ate the poison. I told my husband that he needed to find the rat quickly or we'd have a malodorous dead rat perfuming the place.

He couldn't find it.

It didn't die. We waited and waited. It kept breathing air.

So I put the whole bag of poison in the cereal box. And, again, that night we heard the rat go into the cereal box and eat the poison. Again, I told my husband to find it ASAP.

He couldn't find it.

It didn't die.

One night, just as I was drifting off to sleep, my husband rolled off the bed, opened the bathroom door and said, "Got it!"

He's heard the rat moving around and managed to catch it in the cereal box. He transported it out to the woods and released it.

So, if a whole bag of rat poison failed to kill a little very hungry rat... Cyanide is much more powerful than rat poison.

(I don't take sudafed any more except under certain medical conditions; it raises my blood pressure. I am aware that it can be made into meth. But fills a legitimate and very useful every day use. Cyanide is a totally different class.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
11. misguided suing Amazon--ABSOLUTELY APPROPRIATE to sue U Penn. AND may I say....
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 03:49 PM
Sep 2015

Most comments are focusing on the Amazon angle, rather than the horrifically sexist response by Penn.

Pretty nauseatingly accepting of rape culture.

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