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Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 06:11 PM Sep 2015

Ex-students say Trump University was money-sucking scam run by ‘frauds’

Source: Raw Story

Ex-students say Trump University was money-sucking scam run by ‘frauds’
David Ferguson
06 Sep 2015 at 17:50 ET

Former students of Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump’s Trump University say that the millionaire real estate mogul’s college program was a money-sucking scam run by “a bunch of frauds.”

According to the New York Daily News, ex-student Robert Guillo, 75, said that every workshop and class he attended charged a fee and that the nature of the business became clear to him very quickly.

“As soon as I attended the first workshop, I knew I had been scammed,” Guillo said to the NYDN. “Every single workshop, they charged you another amount. Everything was to get you to spend more and more and more.”

The office of New York’s attorney general said that former students in New York and California have filed suit against the now-defunct institution, claiming that instructors urged them to run up massive amounts of credit card debt to complete the training program.

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/ex-students-say-trump-university-was-money-sucking-scam-run-by-frauds/

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Ex-students say Trump University was money-sucking scam run by ‘frauds’ (Original Post) Judi Lynn Sep 2015 OP
These people would be shocked to find Jackass U run by jackasses jberryhill Sep 2015 #1
This is what Trump is about. An example at the link below of his dealings with Palm Beach! Mass Sep 2015 #2
Ya know, for some reason its really hard to feel sorry for people that gullible tularetom Sep 2015 #3
Ya Know, 18 year olds don't get a lot of classes on fiscal responsibility. gvstn Sep 2015 #14
yes but SnakeEyes Sep 2015 #16
Having said that... SnakeEyes Sep 2015 #18
Sorry, I didn't read the article about the ages. gvstn Sep 2015 #24
I dont disagree that 18 y.o.'s should not be able to incur that kind of debt tularetom Sep 2015 #19
Our state requires a semester of murielm99 Sep 2015 #25
I am so glad to hear that a state actually provides this type of financial education. gvstn Sep 2015 #27
This wasn't for 18 year olds jberryhill Sep 2015 #29
Whether you feel sorry for those poor folks or not, Trump is running wildly ahead in the polls... C Moon Sep 2015 #28
Obviously those whiners are yuuuge losers who couldn't land a job if one landed on top of them. tanyev Sep 2015 #4
We are supposed to protect the most vulnerable amongst us Live and Learn Sep 2015 #5
ok let me see if I understand - LiberalElite Sep 2015 #6
Conveniently located in Brooklyn! hifiguy Sep 2015 #11
Robert Guillo was 75...cut him a break...the scammer abusing the elderly and the gullible - which is not a Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #12
Trump University a fraud? Botany Sep 2015 #7
Trump U is defunct? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you! NCjack Sep 2015 #8
He seems surprised. Nt hifiguy Sep 2015 #9
yep Liberal_in_LA Sep 2015 #10
I don't like to support the Donald bucolic_frolic Sep 2015 #13
Donald Trump and George W. Bush went to business schools Eric J in MN Sep 2015 #30
Test model for his campaign. kairos12 Sep 2015 #15
Trump is a gift. Enjoy the gift. The Jungle 1 Sep 2015 #17
K&R...Thanks for posting, Judi Lynn red dog 1 Sep 2015 #20
The sad thing is that this isn't the only SheilaT Sep 2015 #21
The man's a fraud JoFerret Sep 2015 #22
"Trump personally made at least $5 million off of the scam." NT Eric J in MN Sep 2015 #23
If U and I stole a bottle of beer from the local mini mart, we would be in jail. /nt NCjack Sep 2015 #31
It would be so cool if he goes to jail shenmue Sep 2015 #26
but Donald does everything "the best" wordpix Sep 2015 #32

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
3. Ya know, for some reason its really hard to feel sorry for people that gullible
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 06:28 PM
Sep 2015

I'd be ashamed for anybody to know that I was dumb enough to spend any money on a scam like that.

gvstn

(2,805 posts)
14. Ya Know, 18 year olds don't get a lot of classes on fiscal responsibility.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 08:33 PM
Sep 2015

In fact they get NONE. By design. A simple one semester course in high school, on mortgages and other loans might teach kids how to deal with these financial instruments, but of course that would be detrimental to the powers that be, so we can't have that.

It should be illegal to allow an 18 year old to sign up for $40,000-240,000 worth of debt. When we know they don't understand the consequences. DISGUSTING that we allow this to happen.

Capital letters intended!

SnakeEyes

(1,407 posts)
18. Having said that...
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 08:49 PM
Sep 2015

I agree. I'd be in favor of a law banning people under 25 from having any more than 1/2 of their annual income in debt at any given time. This would prevent the banks from their predatory ways.

gvstn

(2,805 posts)
24. Sorry, I didn't read the article about the ages.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 11:19 PM
Sep 2015

I was just ranting about how we can tell an 18 year old kid that he has to sign a piece of paper in order to go to college and get a better life or rot, then he has to pay for it for the next 30 years. And we changed the bankruptcy laws so that this is the one kind of loan that can't be absolved should circumstances change. And we did it without instituting a mandatory financial responsibility/knowledge class in high school. It is CRIMINAL!

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
19. I dont disagree that 18 y.o.'s should not be able to incur that kind of debt
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 08:51 PM
Sep 2015

But these "students" were not all kids.

One of the complainants was seventy five years old!!!

If you have arrived at the ripe old age of 75 and you are financially secure enough to piss away thousands of dollars on something as patently bogus as "Trump University", then you are not deserving of my sympathy. I can say that because I just turned 74 and if I did that my wife and kids would have me committed.

murielm99

(30,745 posts)
25. Our state requires a semester of
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 12:23 AM
Sep 2015

consumer education for high school seniors. They cover all those things.

I sub sometimes. Last year, I volunteered on one of the days they ran workshops for the kids. They were given a checkbook, a dollar amount, and asked to come up with a monthly budget.

The kids learn about insurance, credit cards, bank loans, etc. I love it that we are doing this for our kids in Illinois. We parents need to educate our own children, too.

gvstn

(2,805 posts)
27. I am so glad to hear that a state actually provides this type of financial education.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 12:56 AM
Sep 2015

I really wish I had gotten it when I was a teen. Good for Illinois, they are doing a great service for their youngsters!

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
28. Whether you feel sorry for those poor folks or not, Trump is running wildly ahead in the polls...
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 02:53 AM
Sep 2015

and he is also running wildly ahead as a 100% asshole.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
5. We are supposed to protect the most vulnerable amongst us
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 06:31 PM
Sep 2015

and these people are surely some of them. Trump University? Good grief.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
6. ok let me see if I understand -
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 06:34 PM
Sep 2015

after the first workshop he knew he had been scammed - then he went to MORE? Did he think he'd get less scammed as it went on? Or just used to the scam?

Buddy, I got a nice bridge to sell ya. Gen-u-wine antique. Great conversation starter.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
12. Robert Guillo was 75...cut him a break...the scammer abusing the elderly and the gullible - which is not a
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 08:18 PM
Sep 2015

crime a - is the criminal Trump...same was said of Madoff's investors as you say.. Scam artists are called artists for a reason.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
8. Trump U is defunct? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you!
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 06:42 PM
Sep 2015

The Trump method: First -- and this is important -- inherit a yuuge fortune. Next, ...

bucolic_frolic

(43,177 posts)
13. I don't like to support the Donald
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 08:19 PM
Sep 2015

but isn't that the definition of a business school?

If they really knew anything, would they be selling you the information?

No, they'd use it themselves.

And many non-higher ed money grubbing purveyors follow a similar model.

You could drop tens of thousands on some of them. And they never tell
you how to make the money. They just keep you drooling and forking over.

Hope these lawsuits are the start of a trend.

There's a saying in New York - Sell the sizzle, not the steak.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
30. Donald Trump and George W. Bush went to business schools
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 11:39 AM
Sep 2015

Trump - The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania
Bush - Harvard Business School

Neither of them felt ripped off, as far as I know.

red dog 1

(27,817 posts)
20. K&R...Thanks for posting, Judi Lynn
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 08:54 PM
Sep 2015

and this is the guy who is leading in all the presidential polls, even against the Democratic candidates.

God help us!

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
21. The sad thing is that this isn't the only
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 09:06 PM
Sep 2015

scam like this, and too many people either have absolutely no BS meter at all, or simply ignore it.

I have an acquaintance who got sucked into some scheme that involved buying foreclosures. I tried to tell her that she was being ripped off, but she didn't want to hear it. Haven't been in touch with her for several years -- we weren't all that close to begin with -- and I'm quite hesitant to try to reach out. But she was taking some kind of courses, and paying money for lists of homes coming up for foreclosure, and paying more money to be "mentored". A total waste, but she couldn't see it.

JoFerret

(10,704 posts)
22. The man's a fraud
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 09:25 PM
Sep 2015

from way back.
But what amuses me is that he has Freeper-style right wingers so beguiled.
It's as if they have given up on the process of hope and are happy to settle for the mouth over any substance.

shenmue

(38,506 posts)
26. It would be so cool if he goes to jail
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 12:45 AM
Sep 2015


Love it, another Republican candidate who should be under indictment!

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
32. but Donald does everything "the best"
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 04:49 PM
Sep 2015

so how could this be? I am sorry for those students who got sucked in by his name in gold lights

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