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riversedge

(70,239 posts)
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 09:59 AM Sep 2015

Hillary Slams Scott Walker: He Gets 'Marching Orders' From The Kochs

Source: TPM





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ByCaitlin MacNeal

Published September 11, 2015, 9:07 AM EDT

Hillary Clinton did not hold back in a Thursday evening speech at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Student Union, blasting Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) and his ties to the Koch brothers.

"It seems to me, just observing him, that Governor Walker thinks because he busts unions, starves universities, guts public education, demeans women, scapegoats teachers, nurses, and firefighters, he is some kind of tough guy on a motorcycle, a real leader," she said, according to Politico. "Well, that is not leadership, folks. Leadership means fighting for the people you represent."

"It looks like he just gets his marching orders from the Koch brothers and just goes down the list," she continued...........

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/hillary-clinton-scott-walker-kochs



Walker dropped to 10th place in new Iowa poll out today.



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Hillary Slams Scott Walker: He Gets 'Marching Orders' From The Kochs (Original Post) riversedge Sep 2015 OP
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #1
Can you find anything constructive to say? leftofcool Sep 2015 #2
No not everyone knows about the Koch's kimbutgar Sep 2015 #3
Silly you. She is saying it on Walker turf. Now you know. Try to stay informed riversedge Sep 2015 #6
Hillary is on the GOP like no one's business! leftofcool Sep 2015 #4
Only because she is their wet dream!! pocoloco Sep 2015 #23
Now that is better! "Slam the lucidly insane fascists, not each other", say both Sanders and Clinton Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #5
I talked to a field organizer the other day redruddyred Sep 2015 #41
Thank you Sec Clinton AllyCat Sep 2015 #7
He also wouldn't have gotten re-elected without the voting machines. Stevepol Sep 2015 #9
Thank you Stevepol nt HomerRamone Sep 2015 #17
^^^This^^^!!! Dustlawyer Sep 2015 #20
Why waste one's breath on someone at 10th place? (shaking head) libdem4life Sep 2015 #8
Because every vote counts... Human101948 Sep 2015 #11
I don't agree. Wisconsin already knows this. Going for the "red meat" libdem4life Sep 2015 #12
Don't fight with me, I am supporting Bernie... Human101948 Sep 2015 #13
Agreeing to disagree is not a fight...just a difference of opinion, that's all. libdem4life Sep 2015 #14
Why?? Her point is not so much about Walker as it is about the GOP vlyons Sep 2015 #21
There are 17 of them! The lower polling ones should be ignored? Sure.....got with that! Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #43
Walker is polling below "don't know". Who's next? Jindal or Perry? fbc Sep 2015 #10
Very interesting comment on Hillary's part. Let's assume she is right. (I agree with her.) JDPriestly Sep 2015 #15
I'm glad to see Hillary taking Walker on. Money in politics is a big problem. jalan48 Sep 2015 #16
Hillary is just pissed the Kochs no longer give her money. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #18
So how much did the Clinton's get from the upaloopa Sep 2015 #26
Check into DLC funding records. It's no secret the Koch bros were major donors.nt HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #27
again how much did the Clinton's get from upaloopa Sep 2015 #28
Again, look up DLC funding sources. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #29
All DLC funding does not go to the Clintons upaloopa Sep 2015 #31
I did not claim Clinton's received all DLC funding. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #33
Excuse me, what the f... has any of that got upaloopa Sep 2015 #34
Koch Industries gave funding to the DLC and served on its Executive Council Lychee2 Sep 2015 #36
One more subject where Mrs. Clinton has come to agree with Mr. Sanders. Betty Karlson Sep 2015 #19
oh good grief!! Leave it to a Sander's fan to riversedge Sep 2015 #39
And leave it to the Hillary fans to turn the positive development into sour grapes? Betty Karlson Sep 2015 #42
Mrs. Clinton has an important voice in American saidsimplesimon Sep 2015 #22
K and R geardaddy Sep 2015 #24
She's right. n/t DirkGently Sep 2015 #25
Corporate Donors to 2016 Clinton campaign: Lychee2 Sep 2015 #30
exactly. she might not want to pull too hard on this thread. restorefreedom Sep 2015 #32
Last I looked they'd donated over $100 million MORE to JEBush. That's Hortensis Sep 2015 #45
Yes, the moneybags of this world do like their Republicans. Lychee2 Sep 2015 #46
I work for a company owned by Time Warner Beaverhausen Sep 2015 #47
Only someone tied in closely to the Kochs and other corporate fat cats would know what "Marching 24601 Sep 2015 #35
I'm grateful for ANY public shaming and agenda definition of the Kochs stuffmatters Sep 2015 #37
And she gets her marching orders Le Taz Hot Sep 2015 #38
Secretary of State H. Clinton addressing the Council on Foreign Relations qstick Sep 2015 #40
Luckily, Walker is toast Phantomaz Sep 2015 #44

Response to riversedge (Original post)

kimbutgar

(21,155 posts)
3. No not everyone knows about the Koch's
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 10:09 AM
Sep 2015

her comments gets picked up more for the media. I'm glad she is speaking Out against them.

The other I met a women and I asked her about Trump she said "he speaks out the truth, ". I asked her about Bernie Sanders she had never heard of him. The MSM covers trump 24/7, Bernie just barely. At least they cover Clinton enough for people to hear her Koch comments.

riversedge

(70,239 posts)
6. Silly you. She is saying it on Walker turf. Now you know. Try to stay informed
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 10:12 AM
Sep 2015

before you post silly stuff to avoid looking foolish.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
4. Hillary is on the GOP like no one's business!
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 10:09 AM
Sep 2015

By the time she gets through with them, they will be curled up in the fetal position somewhere.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
5. Now that is better! "Slam the lucidly insane fascists, not each other", say both Sanders and Clinton
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 10:09 AM
Sep 2015

and they are leading by example.

Cue the "there must be something in there to be outraged about" crowd.

17 shifty humanoid targets means a lot of well-aimed rhetorical salvos have to be fired.

 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
41. I talked to a field organizer the other day
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 11:10 PM
Sep 2015

I asked her if the dem primaries would get ugly and she assured me that hillary, too, wanted no rehash of 08.
thank god.
I like hillary, and the glee with which republicans try to tear her down just makes me like her more.
of course, the far left guy gets my vote, on principle.

AllyCat

(16,187 posts)
7. Thank you Sec Clinton
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 10:20 AM
Sep 2015

It is so true about Walker. He is terrible. And if there is anyone I want to see sink in the polls, it is that guy. He has ruined Wisconsin. Don't let him ruin the rest of the country.

Stevepol

(4,234 posts)
9. He also wouldn't have gotten re-elected without the voting machines.
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 10:50 AM
Sep 2015

Beth Clarkson noticed the same anomalies in the vote count in the re-election of Walker that she noticed in the last KS election. Contrary to the invariable higher Dem totals in the urban areas, the urban areas when counted by voting machines have suddenly turned Repub. Kris Kobach won't let her check the paper against the "alleged" totals in KS. I would bet whoever it is that is in charge of the voting in WI wouldn't let any statistician anywhere near the paper so as to check it against the machine totals.

VERIFY THE VOTE WITH REQUIRED AUDITS!

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
11. Because every vote counts...
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 10:56 AM
Sep 2015

Should Hillary not talk in Wisconsin about the Governor of Wisconsin when he is such a ripe target?

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
12. I don't agree. Wisconsin already knows this. Going for the "red meat"
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 11:00 AM
Sep 2015

takes the place of actual policies and positions. But we can agree to disagree.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
21. Why?? Her point is not so much about Walker as it is about the GOP
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 12:27 PM
Sep 2015

agenda to "busts unions, starves universities, guts public education, demeans women, scapegoats teachers, nurses, and firefighters ..."

 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
10. Walker is polling below "don't know". Who's next? Jindal or Perry?
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 10:51 AM
Sep 2015

If she's going to go after the GOP, how about King Trump?

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
15. Very interesting comment on Hillary's part. Let's assume she is right. (I agree with her.)
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 11:42 AM
Sep 2015

Walker marches to the Koch Brothers' orders in part because he agrees with them, but mostly because they pay him to march to their orders.

That is, they give him money because they agree with him, and in return it certainly appears that Walker marches to the Koch Brothers' orders.

Now, let's think about where Hillary gets her millions. Does she march to the orders of her donors too?

That goes for all of the candidates with rich supporters and big bank accounts. Do they also march to the orders of their benefactors, of their donors, of their contributors?

Because what is true of one who receives lots of money and support from the rich, famous favor-seekers is bound to be true of them all.

If we elect ANY candidate who takes a lot of corporate money, a lot of money from big donors, we will have to ask who that candidate will serve once in office.

This is a serious matter.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
18. Hillary is just pissed the Kochs no longer give her money.
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 12:09 PM
Sep 2015

The Koch bros funded the DLC, Clintons were among the founders.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
28. again how much did the Clinton's get from
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 02:24 PM
Sep 2015

the Kochs?
The Clintons have done more good for people in this world than just about anyone you can name but you have to throw bull shit on them. I think that really sucks.
Are they perfect hell no. No one is but they don't deserve the shit they get from people on this board in an attempt to prop up another candidate!

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
31. All DLC funding does not go to the Clintons
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 03:23 PM
Sep 2015

In the past there were mistakes made. Welfare reform, Nafta, prison reform to name a few.
Much has been written about the failures.
But the 90's were some of the best years for Americans. Social Security had a surplus. We had a balanced budget. We were generally at peace with the world. Quite possibly 9/11 would not have happened if Gore became President.
I think Hillary has learned from the past as have most of us. The DLC does not run her life. Mostly it is gone.
Koch money is not funding Hillary's campaign. Most of it will be spent fighting her next year.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
33. I did not claim Clinton's received all DLC funding.
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 03:42 PM
Sep 2015

Also, I did not claim Koch bros were the only source of DLC funding.
However, it is factually correct that the Koch bros were major donors to the DLC. The Clintons were prominent members of the DLC. The DLC's purpose was to shed the Democratic Party's reliance upon Organized Labor, and shift the Party in a corporate-friendly direction. In that they were successful, however at the expense of the working and now middle classes. 30 years of class warfare by BOTH parties has taken an economic toll and greatly concentrated wealth at the top.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
34. Excuse me, what the f... has any of that got
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 03:49 PM
Sep 2015

to do with the 2016 campaign?
You want to live in the past be my guest.
We need to defeat the right as it exists today. Living in the past does not help that one f...ing bit!

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
19. One more subject where Mrs. Clinton has come to agree with Mr. Sanders.
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 12:10 PM
Sep 2015

One is in awe of the congeniality and collegiality of the two Democratic frontrunners. The cleanest campaign in a long while, focusing on the issues that matter to the electorate.

riversedge

(70,239 posts)
39. oh good grief!! Leave it to a Sander's fan to
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 05:45 PM
Sep 2015

make this yet another --Hillary catching up to Sanders thinking. It never ends.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
42. And leave it to the Hillary fans to turn the positive development into sour grapes?
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 06:15 AM
Sep 2015

Seriously: what is your message supposed to accomplish? What are you even trying to achieve by that message?

Stay positive. If Mrs. Clinton's best argument rests on your ability to find something negative about a positive post of mine, then why is she even still one of the frontrunners?

She is running a very positive campaign - issues not personalities.

She is addressing issues that really matter to the electorate, not just triangulated talking points.

She and Sanders are carving out one of the most progressive Democratic platforms since the 1930-ies.

Mrs. Clinton has caught up with Sanders on a few issues (gay marriage, objection to TPP, to name two of the most important ones). Doubtlessly, Sanders will have to catch up too. That is OK. The important thing is that they get there.

So kindly save your sour grapes for another day. As long as there are positive developments, post like mine will continue to appear. When things go bad, that's when you may unload your sour grapes - and then I'll throw in my sour grapes too. Because we may actually agree on a lot of matters.

Fair enough?

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
22. Mrs. Clinton has an important voice in American
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 12:34 PM
Sep 2015

politics. I would like to see her take Murdoch and the Kochs down with an informational frontal assault. After all, she did support the take down of Usama. (I hear VP Biden was less supportive?)

 

Lychee2

(405 posts)
30. Corporate Donors to 2016 Clinton campaign:
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 02:32 PM
Sep 2015

Citigroup Inc $782,327
Goldman Sachs $711,490
DLA Piper $628,030
JPMorgan Chase & Co $620,919
EMILY's List $605,174
Morgan Stanley $543,065
Time Warner $411,296
Skadden, Arps et al $406,640
Lehman Brothers $362,853
Squire Patton Boggs $310,596
Ernst & Young $297,142
Merrill Lynch $292,303
Credit Suisse Group $290,600

https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cycle=Career&cid=n00000019


restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
32. exactly. she might not want to pull too hard on this thread.
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 03:28 PM
Sep 2015

unfortunately, the secretary has not a lot of credibility on this issue considering her donor base and her positions on keystone, tpp, etc.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
45. Last I looked they'd donated over $100 million MORE to JEBush. That's
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 06:10 PM
Sep 2015

only reported donations directly to his campaign, not secret dark money, and only 3% is from small donors.

According to one professional I read, the JEBush! campaign is estimated to have over $600 MILLION DOLLARS in combined reported donations and secret donations to PACs organized to get him elected. And he is not yet the acknowledged front runner for the GOP, so many big donors are still holding off.

 

Lychee2

(405 posts)
46. Yes, the moneybags of this world do like their Republicans.
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 08:43 PM
Sep 2015

But they also like to hedge their bets. So they also donate to some moderate Democrats. After all, they are businessmen. Or "Beeznessmenny," as they say in Russia, as in, "We are not cryiminals! We are beeznessmenny."

Beaverhausen

(24,470 posts)
47. I work for a company owned by Time Warner
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 11:56 AM
Sep 2015

When I donate to a campaign, that amount is added to the TW total. I'm a lowly executive assistant. These totals represent money from employees, not just the top execs at a corporation.

24601

(3,962 posts)
35. Only someone tied in closely to the Kochs and other corporate fat cats would know what "Marching
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 03:59 PM
Sep 2015

Orders" they are issuing.

Now that she has in effect admitted that she is, we can move on to someone who is not....say, perhaps Bernie.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
37. I'm grateful for ANY public shaming and agenda definition of the Kochs
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 05:23 PM
Sep 2015

Also for Dems shaming & outing their puppets like Walker, who's demonstrated Koch noxious "politics" in action. Walker's just the tip of the iceberg of governors and legislators the Bircher Kochs own.

"Proceed, Dem candidates...."

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
38. And she gets her marching orders
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 05:33 PM
Sep 2015

from Goldman-Sachs or aren't we supposed to notice that?

And brave of her to go after someone who is polling lower than whale shit. Wonder why she didn't go after Trump? Oh wait, her and Bill are good buddies with the racist asshole, maybe that has something to do with it?

qstick

(3 posts)
40. Secretary of State H. Clinton addressing the Council on Foreign Relations
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 10:37 PM
Sep 2015

"Thank you very much, Richard, and I am delighted to be here in these new headquarters. I have been often to, I guess, the ‘mother ship’ in New York City, but it’s good to have an outpost of the Council right here down the street from the State Department. We get a lot of advice from the Council, so this will mean I won’t have as far to go to be told what we should be doing."

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