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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 02:07 AM Oct 2015

Hillary Clinton's Email Server Was Hit By Repeated Cyberattack Attempts From Foreign Countries

Source: Associated Press

By KEN DILANIAN, JACK GILLUM and STEPHEN BRAUN | Associated Press | Oct 7, 2015 9:44 PM CDT in Politics, Technology

WASHINGTON (AP) — Hillary Rodham Clinton's private email server, which stored some 55,000 pages of emails from her time as secretary of state, was the subject of attempted cyberattacks originating in China, South Korea and Germany after she left office in early 2013, according to a congressional document obtained by The Associated Press.

While the attempts were apparently blocked by a "threat monitoring" product that Clinton's employees connected to her network in October 2013, there was a period of more than three months from June to October 2013 when that protection had not been installed, according to a letter from Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., chairman of the Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee. That means her server was possibly vulnerable to cyberattacks during that time.

Johnson's letter to Victor Nappe, CEO of SECNAP, the company that provided the threat monitoring product, seeks a host of documents relating to the company's work on Clinton's server and the nature of the cyber intrusions detected. Johnson's committee is investigating Clinton's email arrangement.

Clinton has not said what, if any, firewall or threat protection was used on her email server before June 2013, including the time she was secretary of state from 2009 to 2013 and the server was kept in her home in the New York City suburbs.

Read more: http://www.newser.com/article/c999f50aec974fae9d20e6b5d3897da9/hillary-clintons-email-server-was-hit-by-repeated-cyberattack-attempts-from-foreign-countries.html

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Hillary Clinton's Email Server Was Hit By Repeated Cyberattack Attempts From Foreign Countries (Original Post) Purveyor Oct 2015 OP
An obvious target. The Russians started in the '70s to put large efforts to tap US cables leveymg Oct 2015 #1
"Willfully reckless"? Negligence about secret documents is a crime. Lychee2 Oct 2015 #29
Thank you for reminding me. Willful recklessness is the standard applied to 793(e) while leveymg Oct 2015 #33
Every server is hit with "Repeated Cyberattack Attempts From Foreign Countries" fbc Oct 2015 #2
That's not true. Fearless Oct 2015 #7
Yes, it is true unc70 Oct 2015 #14
You Are 100% Wrong johnfunk Oct 2015 #18
Actually, it is true. People start at 0.0.0.0 and run through the whole IP range jeff47 Oct 2015 #23
Yep. Aerows Oct 2015 #41
Especially that Nigerian prince. He just never seems to give up. Mister Ed Oct 2015 #8
No kidding. Frank Cannon Oct 2015 #10
I don't think that makes any difference. Lychee2 Oct 2015 #34
My sense is that the ones that got through you will never know about -- that's how it works tomm2thumbs Oct 2015 #3
"That means her server was possibly vulnerable to cyberattacks during that time." William Seger Oct 2015 #32
What is the whole thing with the email anyway? davidpdx Oct 2015 #4
Hit by foreign blah blah is like what the fake techs in India flamingdem Oct 2015 #5
;) sheshe2 Oct 2015 #6
What happened in Oct.'13 that prompted her to finally get protection installed? Divernan Oct 2015 #9
Is that you Malfoy? Darb Oct 2015 #15
Did you reply to the wrong post? Divernan Oct 2015 #16
No, I nailed it. Darb Oct 2015 #37
What part of the post wasn't factual? frylock Oct 2015 #38
Do I have to read it again, it was soooo gross? Darb Oct 2015 #43
What part of the post wasn't factual? frylock Oct 2015 #45
Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #11
So Sanders supporters are trolls? Quackers Oct 2015 #13
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #12
No, State's email servers have not been exploited by any announced attack. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #21
the key statement rtracey Oct 2015 #17
the lack of any security for nearly 5 months means prior "attempts" were likely successful. magical thyme Oct 2015 #27
Funny because as recently as last week, the defense was that there is no evidence her server hughee99 Oct 2015 #31
And night is day, black it white... Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #36
Wonder how many attacks are attempted on .gov servers every day. sinkingfeeling Oct 2015 #19
A ton ... LannyDeVaney Oct 2015 #24
And now this from McClatchy: "IT firm had emails stored on cloud" Babel_17 Oct 2015 #20
This might have been the service Babel_17 Oct 2015 #26
I've seen no reports of successful breaches of her servers ... LannyDeVaney Oct 2015 #22
I' ll wait for the FBI report before drawing a final conclusion. Purveyor Oct 2015 #25
I think you've already drawn your final conclusion. emulatorloo Oct 2015 #35
You should stop thinking then... eom Purveyor Oct 2015 #39
yes, much better to gullibly take Republican statements at face value. emulatorloo Oct 2015 #44
Well of course I won't be posting them. I like Bernie so I'll leave that up to the Bernie-haters. Purveyor Oct 2015 #46
I support Bernie as well, and we both know Bernie has no interest in getting emulatorloo Oct 2015 #47
We are down to repub email stories now? upaloopa Oct 2015 #28
I'm hoping 'her numbers' are wrecked as I don't want her as our nominee. She will loose and loose Purveyor Oct 2015 #40
Agree. This is not going to go away, and will be pounded upon as another lapse in judgment EndElectoral Oct 2015 #42
Vulnerable data HassleCat Oct 2015 #30
Update: Alarmism debunked by the Washington Post Sliceo Oct 2015 #48

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
1. An obvious target. The Russians started in the '70s to put large efforts to tap US cables
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 02:24 AM
Oct 2015

It strikes me as beyond credibility that the vulnerabilities of Madam Secretary's server weren't realized at the moment it was installed. The question is why was she and her staff so willfully reckless?

 

Lychee2

(405 posts)
29. "Willfully reckless"? Negligence about secret documents is a crime.
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 11:15 AM
Oct 2015

18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information

(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense,

(1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or

(2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
33. Thank you for reminding me. Willful recklessness is the standard applied to 793(e) while
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 12:02 PM
Oct 2015

negligence is required showing for conviction of the lesser charge under subsection (f).

 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
2. Every server is hit with "Repeated Cyberattack Attempts From Foreign Countries"
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 02:41 AM
Oct 2015

Why would Hillary's server be any different?

Our media understands the internet about as well as they understand the economy.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
7. That's not true.
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 03:50 AM
Oct 2015

Keep in mind this isn't the Pentagon or Google or some other massive server farm. This is a single server used only for email.

unc70

(6,115 posts)
14. Yes, it is true
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 08:00 AM
Oct 2015

Every "server" is continuously under attack on all the service ports. Email, web, and all the others. Many of the attacks try one IP address after another.

johnfunk

(6,113 posts)
18. You Are 100% Wrong
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 08:41 AM
Oct 2015

I own several sites and work closely with my web providers; a decade ago, our servers at both providers were frequently hit by cyberattacks. The majority of IPs from which these attacks originated were in China, India, Russia, Ukraine, and Germany.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
23. Actually, it is true. People start at 0.0.0.0 and run through the whole IP range
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 11:01 AM
Oct 2015

looking for servers. When they find one, they throw some well-known vulnerabilities at it to see if they can get in.

That being said, there actually are plenty of ways Team Clinton really screwed up their security.

Mister Ed

(5,941 posts)
8. Especially that Nigerian prince. He just never seems to give up.
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 04:11 AM
Oct 2015

But, on a serious note, I believe you're right. Perhaps DU has some resident computer-security professionals who can weigh in.

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
10. No kidding.
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 06:04 AM
Oct 2015

Let's check out the servers of everyone in Congress who's involved in some way with national security, shall we? Let's start with those with an (R) after their names, as I suspect those are the ones most likely to be playing around on the dark web looking for child porn and recipes for meth.

 

Lychee2

(405 posts)
34. I don't think that makes any difference.
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 12:03 PM
Oct 2015

Hillary's server is "different" because it had top secret information on it. Anyone's server could get hacked by the Chinese, but her server could give them something of strategic value. Why didn't Hillary take do something to protect such information until 2013?

To paraphrase your post, Hillary understands the internet about as well as she understands the economy.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
3. My sense is that the ones that got through you will never know about -- that's how it works
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 03:12 AM
Oct 2015

Probably just figured out and used a password and went right in -- simple as that.
These are not amateurs we are talking about.



William Seger

(10,779 posts)
32. "That means her server was possibly vulnerable to cyberattacks during that time."
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 11:55 AM
Oct 2015

There's no way to tell HOW vulnerable it was during that time without knowing how it was set up. I would like to think that any commercial company providing email servers would provide at least industry-standard security, but who knows until they tell us what was in place.

flamingdem

(39,314 posts)
5. Hit by foreign blah blah is like what the fake techs in India
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 03:39 AM
Oct 2015

tell you then they try to sell you their security package for $149

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
9. What happened in Oct.'13 that prompted her to finally get protection installed?
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 05:06 AM
Oct 2015

Simple enough for State Department, FBI and congressional investigators to determine by a review of her billing records and interviews of her employees and the employees of her network provider. Is that why one of her employees has already taken the 5th amendment?

Of course, given her history of mysteriously "disappearing" her time billing records of her employment with the Rose law firm (thus stringing out the Whitewater investigation for 2 years, keeping it alive long enough for Monica Lewinsky's involvement w/ Bill Clinton to be fed to Ken Starr, resulting in the impeachment) this whole matter could also string out for years. I say "mysteriously" because, for the benefit of those not familiar with the Whitewater investigation, when that stack of subpoenaed records finally reappeared, it was in the family quarters of the White House, on a table outside the room she used for an office.

I expect the Republicans are salivating for HRC to win the Dem. primary so they can throw all this at her throughout a general election campaign.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
16. Did you reply to the wrong post?
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 08:30 AM
Oct 2015

Because your reply, a link to Fox news, relative to my post, makes as much sense as that bunny wearing a pancake for a hat.

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
37. No, I nailed it.
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 01:28 PM
Oct 2015

Take it any way you want. Your post is strangely littered with Clinton derangement tidbits.

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
43. Do I have to read it again, it was soooo gross?
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 03:20 PM
Oct 2015

Keep pushing the teabagger line, you are one hell of an asset................to them.

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
17. the key statement
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 08:31 AM
Oct 2015

the key statement is ....Attempts.... Maybe a small private email server was a better choice then a large governmental run server, less chance of attacks.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
27. the lack of any security for nearly 5 months means prior "attempts" were likely successful.
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 11:11 AM
Oct 2015

Something happened in 2013 to cause the to suddenly decide to put on some security.

So no, a small, private server without any security on it was not a better choice.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
31. Funny because as recently as last week, the defense was that there is no evidence her server
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 11:53 AM
Oct 2015

was targeted. I guess it's time to move on to the next line of defense. I can hear that bus warming up, the question is, who will end up under it.

 

LannyDeVaney

(1,033 posts)
24. A ton ...
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 11:01 AM
Oct 2015

Lots of replies to this thread are WAY oversimplifying the issue.

She wasn't logged in AOL sending emails.

Folks - don't speak of that which you know nothing about.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
20. And now this from McClatchy: "IT firm had emails stored on cloud"
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 09:52 AM
Oct 2015
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article37968711.html



By Greg Gordon and Anita Kumar

McClatchy Washington Bureau
WASHINGTON

A Connecticut company, which backed up Hillary Clinton‘s emails at the request of a Colorado firm, apparently surprised her aides by storing the emails on a “cloud” storage system designed to optimize data recovery.

The firm, Datto Inc., said Wednesday that it turned over the contents of its storage to the FBI on Tuesday.


If I'm interpreting this correctly then it would seem possible that a run of the mill cloud storage service was unknowingly holding onto secret material. I'm not seeing that they were rated for handling such, even if they knew they were.

But that's speculation. What's new is that now the Republican committees might get to see additional classified, and personal, material from this cloud backup. The FBI at least seems likely to be seeing such.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
26. This might have been the service
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 11:09 AM
Oct 2015
http://www.datto.com/nas

Datto NAS is smart, scalable storage that connects to the secure Datto cloud. It takes the NAS performance to the next level, adding snapshotting and syncing to the cloud.
 

LannyDeVaney

(1,033 posts)
22. I've seen no reports of successful breaches of her servers ...
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 11:00 AM
Oct 2015

no matter how much some folks want it to be true. You know, true Americans.

emulatorloo

(44,149 posts)
35. I think you've already drawn your final conclusion.
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 12:29 PM
Oct 2015

Given your posting of this article,which is based on a letter from a Republican Senator.

Nothing wrong with that, this is a free country.

However in the wake of Kevin McCarthy's revelation about the Benghazi Committee being a political operation to ruin HRC's chances in 2016, I tend to be cynical about letters from Republican Senator on this issue.

I wouldn't believe him even if his tongue came notarized.

emulatorloo

(44,149 posts)
44. yes, much better to gullibly take Republican statements at face value.
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 03:21 PM
Oct 2015

Looking forward to your posts when that crowd turns their their lie machine towards Bernie after he wins Iowa and New Hampshire.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
46. Well of course I won't be posting them. I like Bernie so I'll leave that up to the Bernie-haters.
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 03:27 PM
Oct 2015

Yes I'm a very biased poster and make no apology for that.

emulatorloo

(44,149 posts)
47. I support Bernie as well, and we both know Bernie has no interest in getting
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 03:39 PM
Oct 2015

in bed with these liars. He's smart and he knows what their game is.



upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
28. We are down to repub email stories now?
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 11:12 AM
Oct 2015

It is well known that the repubs are trying to wreck Hillary's numbers.
People here should be ashamed of carrying water for the repubs.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
40. I'm hoping 'her numbers' are wrecked as I don't want her as our nominee. She will loose and loose
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 03:08 PM
Oct 2015

badly in the GE.

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
42. Agree. This is not going to go away, and will be pounded upon as another lapse in judgment
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 03:16 PM
Oct 2015

And potentially placing people at risk.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
30. Vulnerable data
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 11:41 AM
Oct 2015

I worked for two different federal agencies, and both had data stolen from their servers. In both cases, it was employee records, including personal identifiers and financial data that would allow criminals to break into employees' bank accounts. I think we're scrutinizing Clinton's computer security practices solely because she's a presidential candidate. If we looked into every member of congress, I bet we would find data breaches all over the place, top secret messages lost, and so on.

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