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Eugene

(61,881 posts)
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 03:29 PM Oct 2015

Hundreds of thousands protest in Berlin against EU-U.S. trade deal

Source: Reuters

At least 150,000 people marched in Berlin on Saturday in protest against a planned free trade deal between Europe and the United States that they say is anti-democratic and will lower food safety, labor and environmental standards.

Organizers - an alliance of environmental groups, charities and opposition parties - said 250,000 people had taken part in the rally against free trade deals with both the United States and Canada, far more than they had anticipated.

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Police said 150,000 people had taken part in the demonstration which was trouble free. There were 1,000 police officers on duty at the march.

Opposition to the so-called Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) has risen over the past year in Germany, with critics fearing the pact will hand too much power to big multinationals at the expense of consumers and workers.

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Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/10/us-trade-germany-ttip-protests-idUSKCN0S40L720151010



World | Sat Oct 10, 2015 2:16pm EDT
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Hundreds of thousands protest in Berlin against EU-U.S. trade deal (Original Post) Eugene Oct 2015 OP
TTIP weg! forest444 Oct 2015 #1
We must fight them on the beaches, in the streets.... Demeter Oct 2015 #2
Yep... IthinkThereforeIAM Oct 2015 #4
Interesting. Berlin. Not exactly the hotbed of democracy that comes to mind when I think of jtuck004 Oct 2015 #3
As a retired POL SCI prof., I can tell you . . FairWinds Oct 2015 #5
Jacob Appelbaum is there for a reason... Helen Borg Oct 2015 #6
I have heard things too airplaneman Oct 2015 #7
They learned it the hard way. We have forgotten what a jwirr Oct 2015 #9
Probably hard to gerrymander moondust Oct 2015 #10
And their military is unionized !! FairWinds Oct 2015 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #11
The "free" trade agreement supporters are always saying it is Just in the US that people are fasttense Oct 2015 #12
Let's bump some good news. JackRiddler Oct 2015 #13
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
2. We must fight them on the beaches, in the streets....
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 03:39 PM
Oct 2015

everywhere, forever. Apologies to Churchill.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,076 posts)
4. Yep...
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 04:08 PM
Oct 2015

... or we will all end up as some kind of Soylent Green. I believe many souls have already been consumed, hopefully the remaining souls in this world can fight back.
 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
3. Interesting. Berlin. Not exactly the hotbed of democracy that comes to mind when I think of
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 03:43 PM
Oct 2015

a hotbed of democracy.

I think of a free nation, constitution with rights, strongest country in the world, yada, yada, yada. Some protests, but, oddly, the major sponsor pushing this bill, it seems.. Well, this government and several multinational corporations. Ironically, it is going to do further damage to people in the U.S. who have been the subjects of continued harm for years, yet protests to match this are usually only seen when Dancing with the Stars fails to show at its appropriate time.

My thinking must be wrong. Again.

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
5. As a retired POL SCI prof., I can tell you . .
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 04:16 PM
Oct 2015

that by nearly any measure Germany is more democratic than the US.

In fact, it's not even close.

In Germany, for example, they actually have political parties that take
clear stands on issues, and generally attempt to fulfill promises once
in office. Then there is voter turn out; not to mention a good deal of
non-corporate media.

Go visit - you will be impressed.

airplaneman

(1,239 posts)
7. I have heard things too
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 05:01 PM
Oct 2015

Like corporations are required to have an employee problem resolution system in place,
and in large corporations they have to have some places on the board of directors for the employees. They have a real sense of moral responsibility to their employees, customers and community. You know all the socialist communist stuff.
-Airplane

moondust

(19,979 posts)
10. Probably hard to gerrymander
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 06:37 PM
Oct 2015

in a multiparty environment. And harder to otherwise "game" a multiparty system. And much less a two-sided "football game" voting mentality. And they've apparently been able to keep big money from corrupting everything. Much shorter election campaigns probably help.

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
8. And their military is unionized !!
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 05:17 PM
Oct 2015

Love the schnitzel, and walks in the woods.

And the beer, ahhhhhhhh

Weisswurst !!

When you visit, take a nerf football along - you'll be a hit with the kids.

Munich took in more Syrian refugees in one weekend than the US even is considering for a total.

I lived there for two years while in the military, and found nearly all the Germans to be really kind and helpful. Much more than we deserved - some of the GI's were really rude and immature.

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fasttense

(17,301 posts)
12. The "free" trade agreement supporters are always saying it is Just in the US that people are
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 01:51 PM
Oct 2015

protesting these agreements. They are wrong as usual.

"What bothers me the most is that I don't want all our consumer laws to be softened," Oliver Zloty told Reuters TV. "And I don't want to have a dictatorship by any companies.""

How out of touch are German corporate heads? ""A fair and comprehensive free trade deal promotes growth and prosperity in Europe. We should actively participate in the rules for world trade of tomorrow," Ulrich Grillo, head of the BDI Federation of German industries, said in a statement."

About as out of touch as are US corporate CEOs.

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