Right?

But the odds are hugely in favor of hacked. She would be a high-profile target of at least a dozen countries and the Murdock empire.

They'd be looking in DC, not in her basement.

No proof of unicorns, either.

you don't hit anything. This shows a frightening lack of concern for the security of her email. While it is true, that neither a state.gov account or this one should have ever had any classified information, even the leaking of details of her travel could have put her and others at greater risk if someone had found the impact.

Not to mention, as soon as Bloomenthal's email was hacked - it should not have been hard to figure out who H was on clintonemail.com!

Funny thing is nothing illegal was done, nothing was compromised nothing marked secret at the time was sent or received. Everything sent to government officials was stored on their government server.
This is a non story kept alive by folks out to hurt Hillary's campaign and carry water for repubs.
It is a waste of time

what classified info was on her server, how did it get there...and where did it go from there.

hacked into. Those settings are not default. And if turned on they take up disk space pretty quickly. If they had a firewall inlace (it is not mentioned that they did) that would have slowed hackers down a little bit. But I would think that the name "clintonemail.com" would have been easy picking for the NSA or outside governmental organizations.

Their IT consultant is taking the 5th as he knows he did not set up logging and security. I would bet he was asked to set up a family system and the Clintons did not tell him what it would have been used for. I was asked to set it up for what it was really really used for, I would have run as far as I could.

I have a little home web server and email system on a Mac and I guess I have 50-100 attempts a day. I would hate to see how many they have. An attempt does not mean someone got in, it just means that someone found a port on an IP address that they might be able to hack into if they want to put the effort into it. The only way to tell if someone tried its by looking at the logs.

"I would bet he was asked to set up a family system and the Clintons did not tell him what it would have been used for."

Good catch. You're probably right.

None of this makes any sense.

A good hacker isn't even going to leave tracks in a setup that poorly configured.

At times it is hard to tell the difference between the Benghazi commitee, and what some may perceive as LBN

Infiltration of files seen as extensive
Senate panel's GOP staff pried on Democrats
By Charlie Savage, Globe Staff | January 22, 2004

WASHINGTON -- Republican staff members of the US Senate Judiciary Commitee infiltrated opposition computer files for a year, monitoring secret strategy memos and periodically passing on copies to the media, Senate officials told The Globe.

From the spring of 2002 until at least April 2003, members of the GOP committee staff exploited a computer glitch that allowed them to access restricted Democratic communications without a password. Trolling through hundreds of memos, they were able to read talking points and accounts of private meetings discussing which judicial nominees Democrats would fight -- and with what tactics.

The office of Senate Sergeant-at-Arms William Pickle has already launched an investigation into how excerpts from 15 Democratic memos showed up in the pages of the conservative-leaning newspapers and were posted to a website last November.

With the help of forensic computer experts from General Dynamics and the US Secret Service, his office has interviewed about 120 people to date and seized more than half a dozen computers -- including four Judiciary servers, one server from the office of Senate majority leader Bill Frist of Tennessee, and several desktop hard drives.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/01/22/infiltration_of_files_seen_as_extensive/?page=full

But we've already seen repeatedly that Hillary doesn't learn even from her own experience, never mind that of others.

This is made up bullshit! And BTW I am no big fan of HRC but this Benghazi stuff
and what about Hillary's server is nothing more then swiftboating.

From the Pickle report:

opponents.

And most especially when they are Windows servers that even incompetent hackers can hack.

This is not the Benghazi smear. This is a separate issue and shows very, very poor judgement.

decided to bring back the old email story. pathetic

And newcomers will enthusiastically fan those flames!

You'd think they'd spend more time touting their preferred candidate's ideas.

from the State Dept. will keep it going for months. That is why Hillary is such a deeply flawed candidate.

There's no such thing as a "hack proof server".

You don't even need to follow the link. Just get past the headline...the 1st couple paragraphs say it all.

Any enterprise that handles sensitive information should have strict mandates against allowing employees to use personal devices to conduct business. This is 20/20 hindsight and the witch hunt of Hillary over this is complete utter bullshit.

government. And it's not like the government outlawed using common sense.

Oh yeah, from the teabaggers. What gives?

at least not the last time I looked.

But nice try at insinuating I'm a teabagger

in power do not ever believe that the rules pertain to them, just the other people.

hacked or contracted a software virus. Go figure.

Not machines. Watch the show, Mr Robot, and you will see how that works.

Not only was it proven there was nothing secret on her emails, she was not hacked. Ok, they didn't put in all the detail required to make it more secure. So friggin what!!!! Life goes on.

Why don't they just leave her alone. By the way, drop the Bengazi crap too. 8 times and she's clean? It's unbelievable what the right will do to make an issue out of NOTHING!!!!

Reminds me of a scene from Police Squad with Leslie Neilson. NOTHING to see here. Please move on!!!

release that State confirms were top secret at the time she received them and, in once case, forwarded it on.

Funny how we screamed when Valerie Plame was "outed."

But it's ok for Hillary to email the names CIA agents who are actively in the field on an unsecure server.

p.s. this isn't about the GOP's attempted Benghazi smear. This is a separate issue.

Hillary was not using her server to maliciously out CIA agents like the GOP did with Valerie Plame. Hyperbole much?

From your own link:

....and how many were there?

The FBI may or may not report on the results of their investigation into what classified information they find, where it came from and where it went. I have read rumours that they could report as soon as December. But nothing says for sure they'll publicly release anything.

to use a homebrewed, unprotected, highly vulnerable Windows server for highly sensitive work by an individual that an 8 year old would recognize as a prime target for spies.

Also known are the months and months of stonewalling and attempts to deflect.

Also known is the attempt to make it everybody else's fault. Even Obama is obliquely blamed, since Hillary has pronounced that as President she would have shut the various and sundry investigations down.

All that is unknown is how many more are to come, what secrets and embarassments they contain, and who's hands the top secret info got into.

I guess you must be pretty desperate to be using bullshit Red State talking points like that Hillary's server was "homebrewed, highly vulnerable." It was never hacked, unlike the State Department's servers.

Weakest argument ever. Hopefully you're not consulting with Clinton's team or she's fucked.

....the media (and RW) like to say the server was "in her home basement" like the house was some two-bedroom bungalow on a residential street.

Her "home" is a fortress guarded by the Secret Service 24/7.

really understand the issue.

yeah, I didn't think so.

p.s. pretty much everybody understands that Secret Service parked outside your home won't prevent computer hacking.

Can you link to the FBI report stating that it WAS hacked? Yeah, I didn't think so.

veracity.

Right now, nobody knows and the FBI isn't saying. But since 1. hack attacks are known to be prevalent, and 2. the SOS is a likely target of foreign spies, and 3. it is known that repeated attempts were made on Hillary's server after security was added in 2013, it seems probable that 1. attempts were likely made from 2009-2013 and 2. with a vulnerable and particularly easy Windows server, there's a good chance at least some were successful.

ask tonight.

That poor defunct horse is so dead he's beginning to stink up the place. Off to the glue factory with him!

I'm a Bernie supporter! And this is a BS attack lest we forget that Sony was hacked the pentagon target and a gazillions other servers

Make it stop! These attacks on Hillary abt emails and bengazzzzi are really transparent.

I'm a Bernie supporter period. But if Hillary is our candidate I won't be holding my nose or giving her the stink eye. I trust she will uphold our party's goals as best as anyone can in the face of a dog shit congress.

Either hasn't been paying attention, doesn't know much about IT, or both.

We are all at risk, but are not all equally at risk. It's the same with servers. Some are more protected than others.

Maybe he could have hooked her up with the people that rolled out the Obamacare website.

keeping beating a dead horse? And why are we helping them?

Hillary could have put this to rest months and months ago if she'd followed the advice of her advisors.

Now that Bernie shut it down for her in the debate, maybe it will go away for good. Or maybe not. Only time will tell.

They see the public as viewing how you handle security being a metric to judge your competency.

Anyone can have a subordinate make a poor decision. It's the sum total of your subordinates decisions, and your role in overseeing them, that gets judged. Also your wisdom in who you hire, and do or do not fire. The media shouldn't try to capitalize on every little detail. But new developments on the issue of the privately controlled server (which the FBI is running more than just a cursory investigation on) are news in the sense that they are worthy of being recorded.

Probably no new story here except the one that the Clinton staff's inherent tendency for concealment keeps generating controversy. I know, it's a circular thing, enemies ready to pounce are a major factor in this. But the cycle needs to be broken in order for us to ensure our win in 2016.

I find it useful to hear what the nerds, many of who are/were employed at this kind of work, have to say when more revelations pop up.

Posted by Soulskill on Tuesday October 13, 2015 @04:57PM from the yeah-this-story-is-still-a-thing dept.
Jim Efaw writes:
Hillary Clinton's home servers had more than just the e-mail ports open directly to the Internet. The Associated Press discovered, by using scanning results from 2012 "widely available online", that the clintonemail.com server also had the RDP port open; another machine on her network had the VNC port open, and another one had a web server open even though it didn't appear to be configured for a real site. Clinton previously said that her server featured "numerous safeguards," but hasn't explained what that means. Apparently, requiring a VPN wasn't one of them.