I thought Bernie's stance on Edward Snowden was the right one.

O'Malley was a bit too harsh. Clinton looked opportunistic.

Bernie was right.

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That's the problem.


"essentialness of capitalism to the American identity."

Not unregulated capitalism. Does she not see the essentialness of socialism to the American identity? Capitalism didn't help us during the Depression.

to death to justify all sorts of wrong-headed conduct. Usually it comes from a Republican though.

against the middle class and the poor. At that point, you are supposed to concede your own interests and play their economic shell game.

I've heard it many times.

The good part: Clinton demonstrates American patriotism as a tool for crony capitalism.

or "We only allow capitalism here".

talking about the e-mails.

She was feeling the Bern there for a while.

Bernie is not just loved because of his righteous anger about injustice. Not even just for his honesty and authenticity. But also, we love Bernie because he is KIND.

That is a rare virtue in politics.

Bernie is just downright, fundamentally fair and KIND.

And Hillary benefited from his kindness.

I hope she remembers that moment. Bernie really let her off the hook.

But the e-mail issue has been so blown out of proportion that it is annoying. Bernie was right. As usual. He just showed once again what good judgment he has.

We pay 3 to 12 times more for health care than most other countries and have worse outcomes.

I wonder when Americans are going to tire of the capitalistic agenda that sends most Americans into poverty at some point in their lives. Such as in old age.

Hillary is status quo, a system that works for the few elite. I'm not so sure this is going to give her a win. I think people know the system doesn't work and she showed she doesn't get it.

So Clinton was "sharp" and "biting"? Why don't they just say "shrewish"? Geez.

I thought the debate was one of the most civil and thoughtful I have ever seen, and I have been around for every televised Presidential debate in our history.

There is nothing "sharp" and "biting" in stating your viewpoint and contrasting it with your opponents. That is kind of the definition of "debate".

Do they call Trump "sharp" and "biting"? No, they call him a "say what he thinks" stand-up guy.

Men are "forceful" and "forthright". Women are "sharp" and "biting"? This drivel should never have been published.

illustrated the concept of irregular conjugations: I am firm / you are stubborn / he is a pig-headed fool (to be sure, not verb conjugations at all but you get the picture). George Bernard Shaw? maybe.

says Katharine Whitehorn O.B.E

"I am firm; you are obstinate; he is a pigheaded fool."*

Never heard of her...I wonder how that happened?

though with that name. age and nationality, almost certainly a fourth or fifth cousin of mine

and I'll bet she quoted that, didn't coin it. From Harvard Magazine: http://harvardmagazine.com/2010/05/chapter-and-verse

“I am firm. You are stubborn. He is…” (March-April). Dick Dodds found this remark attributed, without citation, to British journalist Katharine Elizabeth Whitehorn on Wikipedia, and Richard Friedman found it reprinted in The Best of Sydney J. Harris (1975) as “I am a man of firm principles; you tend to be stubborn; he is pigheaded.” (Harris was a longtime columnist for the Chicago Daily News.) But Susan Zucker Leff cited S.I. Hayakawa’s Language in Thought and Action (2d ed.; 1964), which states in chapter 6 that “Bertrand Russell, on a British Broadcasting Company radio program called the ‘Brains Trust,’ gave the following ‘conjugation’ of an ‘irregular verb’: I am firm. You are obstinate. He is a pig-headed fool.” The New Statesman and Nation then ran “Week-end Competition No. 952,” seeking additional examples, and printed the best of the 2,000 results on June 5, 1948, validating recollections by Fran Donohue Hanson, Diane Zelby Witlieb, and Martin Mayer of such a contest. Witlieb forwarded one remembered example (“I have reconsidered it. You have changed your mind. He has gone back on his word.”), Mayer another (“I have about me something of the subtle, haunting, mysterious perfumes of the Orient. You rather overdo it, dear. She stinks.”).


George Bernard Shaw. Bertrand Russell. My brain is atrophying.

Have him forcefully stick up for you. Bernie really showed his colors to Hillary. Shamed her a little.

United States of America.”

The crowd erupted in applause.'


Poor hapless souls.

Clinton supporters think that was one of her finest moments last night.

She was so polished. Did you see how Presidential she looked?

the WaPost and others,these stories about how Clinton won debate or Clinton turned up the heat on Sanders and other catchy phrases,were written before the debate even started with just a few add ins later.

Hillary Clinton also talked about Bernie's free tuition program using the rhetoric about free tuition for Trumps kids,
Well she knew full well that Millionaires don't send their kids to public Colleges and Universities.

As much as the media is in love with Hillary she could have ran on the Republican ticket and would probably be ahead right now.

Her PAC money is from the same deep pockets as is the Republican contributors.

Were there points of disagreement? Sure. But the conversations remained civil and mostly on-point. I was proud of our candidates last night.

Mrs. Clinton plays hardball. Bernie, or any of the other candidates could have gone after Hilary on Glass-Stegall, since President Clinton and the Republicans destroyed that necessary law to prevent speculation by the big banks. The men could have played up her cozy connection to Wall Street. Maybe they will hold her accountable next time.