I mean...right?

But maybe they just don't care!

The United States will back up whatever Israel decides to do...even if the worse thing that can happen, happens!!!

collective punishment works wonders when your trying to promote conflict.
It also has the convenient side effect of freeing up more land to steal.

Gaza is just an open air prison now. Sickening.

Huh.

in the eyes of international law.

Their families would become non-persons in any official sense.

Its very harsh collective punishment.

against Palestinian civilians, which are a daily occurrence in the occupied territories and in east Jerusalem. Those are far more numerous. Where will the Israeli terrorists be deported too? When will the families of those terrorists have their homes leveled by the IDF?

Not that Israelis ever gave a shit about international law, but I was also wondering by what legal authority they can deport occupied peoples from their own homes, let alone do that to entire families who have committed no crimes other than being related to someone who has been accused of one?

Furthermore, even though Gaza remains under Israeli military occupation, the world has been led to believe it has some limited autonomy. How does Israel decide unilaterally to deport people there without even consulting Hamas?

Murderous regimes like North Korea and Yemen are for some reason much less troubling to most of the international community than Israel is.

And those are the ones that have deemed Israel worse than North Korea.

Are you going to express an opinion as to whether this sort of thing is acceptable or not?

They were opposed to the concept from the beginning.

As to the OP from the center-right JPost, it's just the usual right-wing ramblings of the right-wingers in the government

It would be bad if they go through with this. I don't think they will. But it's important to clarify that what we are talking about here is kicking out of the country a small number of people who are guilty of terror attacks against civilians or related to those who commit them, not some kind of mass deportation.

I think people should deal in the actual bad things that the Israeli government is doing rather than making up BS.

That's part of their value system.

The IDF had to get its leash pulled by the Supreme Court over this.

But it's still legal and considered fully compatible with Zionism's value set.

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2457&dat=20020905&id=-KJJAAAAIBAJ&sjid=ZA0NAAAAIBAJ&pg=1257,650059&hl=en

This is what happens when a nation aspires to the past.

Can't you ever not try to find an angle ot "justify" abuse, Oberliner? Like... ever?

make no pretense at being western democracies. Neither do they have political influence in American politics, nor do they receive billions of dollars in American foreign aid.

"Who's going to stop us?"

The US certainly won't. And they won't allow the UN to do anything.

There is the mundane, banal psychological barbarism of life under occupation. The daily hassles and humiliations.

Not to mention seeing your homeland nibbled away, your orchards destroyed, by more occupiers.

But under pressure, the Israelis pull out all the twisted stops:

Demolitions of family homes. Collective punishment.

The refusal to return bodies. Stay classy, Israel!

Deporting people from their own country.

Somebody said something once about being careful when you fight monsters...

"If violence continues, Israel to begin banishing Palestinians to Gaza"

Spring, sprong, bling, blong, DING!!!!

Translation: Israel builds new ghetto.

rail lines that go to Gaza?

It seems like you are.

So, Nazi Germany isn't the correct analogy.

More like somewhere between Ol' Hickory and Radovan Karadzic.


That is, if they formally decide to avoid the P.W. Botha route.

The United States is responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of Native Americans.

We were discussing Israeli treatment of its occupied peoples. What the US did in no way justifies what Israel does.

I do not believe such a comparison is valid.

Not all indigenous peoples.

We'll see how far the Israelis are willing to go once they realize they can't fence all of the Arabs out.

the designers of South African Apartheid

maybe if they didn't treat Gaza like a Warsaw ghetto then I wouldn't be comparing them.

To make such a comparison is ignorant at best and sickening at worst.

And from someone with a Bernie Sanders avatar?

And why wouldn't Bernie care?

they would drive everyone in Gaza into the sea.

Given how contentious this is - it is extremely poor journalism and designed to cause fear and animosity.

Ugh - this is all over Israeli media (at least the English part). The peron saying it is from Bennett's extreme right wing party.

Speaking to local radio on Thursday, Israeli Justice Minister Ayelet Shaked, a member of the ultra-nationalist Jewish Home party, announced that alleged attackers and their "supportive" family members would be stripped of their Jerusalem residency rights and social security. - See more at: http://mwcnews.net/news/middle-east/54886-jerusalem-residency.html#sthash.7mv4OzuZ.dpuf

as possible from Jerusalem and the West Bank into the Bantustan called Gaza.

Doesn't that say it all?

It is frightening how many really extreme people Netanyahu needed to add to his extremist government. It is also scary the power they have because he only has 61 of the 120 members of the Knesset.

Still, this government seems very stable despite its awfulness. They all get along pretty well and agree on all of the big issues.

but Netanyahu has had an easier time herding them than John Boehner had with his caucus. They are awful.

Just a place to jam pack full of undesirables?

Nice plan, Bibi.

Not even being subtle about it.

But one group of people herding another group of people into an overpacked, undersupplied area because of nationality, ethnicity, religion, whatever, it just seemed like a story I'd heard before.

I'm not sure how one would express the comparison in a "subtle" manner.

So why should JustABozoOnThisBus?

Now, am I comparing Israeli treatment of Palestinians to the Holocaust? No. Absolutely not! But I do see similarities to the manner in which German Jews were treated by the Nazis pre-WWII. I mean, how do you differentiate between the destruction of homes and businesses in the West Bank from Kristallnacht? Jews were murdered by the Nazis at that time as well, and Palestinians are being murdered by Israelis now.

Since I'm new here, you should have little trouble getting me banned. But I call 'em as I see 'em.

Israel goes on about "Terror tunnels" as justification to bomb Gaza, Yet conveniently forget their Terror tunnels built in the Warsaw ghetto to attack Germans and bring in medical supplies. Double standards much?

to make the point you want -- and STILL be controversial.

But the Bantustans had some degree of autonomy and economic opportunity, such as resorts like Sun City, where ordinary South Africans could party and spend money. I don't think of Gaza as a recreational destination for rich Israelis. I think Gaza's economic opportunities are more limited.

Netenyahu seems to be pushing the Palestinians into an unlivable box.

resemble the Bantustans? Those I/P maps are sheer insanity.

I suppose we could go get a check list of all the horrible crimes against humanity through out history until we come to one you will won't be offended by

But the problem remains , what the Israeli government is doing here is WRONG. You personal feelings towards how someone describes that wrong is not relevant.

No history does not repeat but it often rhymes and if people see a parallel between this and bad stuff that has happened before, I am not sure you can blame them.

I mean the lesson we were supposed to learn from the Holocaust was "Never again". Never again should not come with an asterisk. A crime doesn't' become ok just because it's being perpetrated but the descendants of victims.