pretty much time to shit or get off the pot.

I hope he declares or says no thanks PDQ because this is getting stupid.

Hilary is unelectable!

One of the major proclamations pundits made was that in the first debate, Hillary slammed the door on a Biden run. Be funny if it turned out they were wrong about that too.

Joe has to run now, just sticking it to the corporate pundit class would make it worth it in my eyes. lol

I think Biden has just continued to put off his decision too long. He is a great guy and has been a wonderful vice-president, but he is making a mistake if he runs. Hillary Clinton is going to come after him full bore both through her campaign and her superpac.

If he jumps in, things will get very interesting. I believe he will attract more of Hillary's supporters as opposed to Bernie's.

Sam

There's virtually little daylight between him and Clinton. Unless he was shooting to help out Sanders or O'Malley, I just don't get the point.

I could maybe understand it if she was tanking, but she's not. Her numbers are solid, she performed to expectations in the debate, and she can raise funds as well as anyone. Running in that situation would be for vanity, not any real reason.

from both Clinton and Sanders. It would be a pretty shrewd move.

Just the same.

Biden is BIG money and Wall Street too.

No Hope for any Real Change with either of them.

Joe's a nice guy.

He has a big heart

and a savvy brain.

He knows politics;

he knows Washington;

and he knows the players therein.

He knows how to play the game,

and how the game is played.

And, he's neither enamored of

nor taken in by any of it at all.

He's seen the debate;

he's heard the pundits;

he's watched the media

masticate and manipulate.

He knows the fix is in,

the game, it is rigged.

So, he's looking for money to run

from his brothers who know him best:

unions.

But, he's late to the game,

too late to win.

I expect he knows he can't win

but is pretty sure he can

take down Hillary Clinton.

And, were he to win,

well, that's OK too.

Winning is the risk he will take

in order to stop Hillary.

Joe's no dummy.

For nigh on seven years now

he been behind the curtain.

He has seen the handiwork

of the power elite, their hirelings,

and what they have brought

upon his beloved country.

He know's Hillary.

He really knows Hillary.

He has seen her in action

up close and personal.

Joe's a smart guy.

He surely knows Hillary's history,

her being a founder

and lifelong proponent

of globalism.

By other names, it is called:

globalization,

corporatism,

global fascism.

But Joe, he's a union man,

first, last, and always.

He has witnessed firsthand

the effects of globalism

decimate unions in America,

wreck manufacturing

in America,

and destroy our middle class.

First, Joe went to Elizabeth Warren.

She could well stymie Hillary

but she would not run.

She will fight the good fight

from the Senate floor instead.

So, it is left to Joe.

He knows he can draw votes

away from Hillary,

votes Sanders will never see.

Maybe that will be enough,

the hole he will have made,

for Bernie to slip through

and clinch the nomination.

Or, maybe Joe wins,

and that would be OK too

because Hillary won't.

Joe's a good and decent man.

He knows the score.

He knows what's needed

and he's motivated

by a deathbed plea

from his son

to do what's right,

what's needed,

for America,

before it is to late.


The preceding is a message from my gut.

Dragging out your post just Bogarts thread space ...Awful for us Smartphone users.

a "haiku"?

Very effective. And I agree with what you said.

These next few weeks are going to get very interesting on the Democratic side, no doubt about it.

meaning. Too often folks scan over posts, misinterpreting or ignoring their intent or meaning. Thought I'd try a different approach for what I view as an important understanding of Joe and his actions to date. Further, I'm concerned that Biden is beginning to be misrepresented based on misinterpretations here in ways that could get out of hand rather quickly.

This country can't afford to go backwards, which is where President Hillary would take it.

PROGRESSivism is about moving forward.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

I am not a fan of any of them, but I prefer bernie to Biden.
I can't imagine why he (Biden) would run.
he's not going to win.
so much $ spent on and by people who know they are not electable.

I'm hoping he will not run as that may divide the Party.. We do not need the chaos.... The speculation that he will run takes away from GOP media time so that is a possibility as to why this is dragging out. If he does join the pack....hmmm there will be in-house chaos....many have already committed to Hillary or Bernie...

I am sick of this media stupidity with a man who has said nothing. I never minded Joe Biden as a politician, but is he really still a union man as someone stated? And, what effect will the unions have on his ability to get elected? The union members I know vote republican, as moronic as that is. I even tell them it's against their own self interest but since Mush Limpball and other right wing radio hosts tell them "liberals are bad" they go and vote in the clowns currently running congress. Until that changes, Joe Biden will be no help. With Sanders, I can still hope he'll stick to his veto powers. The rest of them I can't even give that much.

which was all-in for Obama for both terms. And are already very behind Hillary (sadly). But, at least they are behind a Democrat.

I do think it depends on the 'makeup' of the union.

We shall see in the coming weeks. If nothing else, his run could toss a few wrenches into the works, good or bad.

Maybe the whole "Queen Hillary" thing would get quieted down a bit.

right-wing looneyville in the South. These idiots wouldn't know a brick if it hit em in the face as far as politics go.

Biden knows politics as well as anyone. I think his decision was made long ago and his announcement will follow as late in the process as practical. If he politically benefits from waiting to be an active candidate, expect that wait to end the moment he benefits more from making it official. Thus, the filing deadlines are when we will likely know for sure.

Another politics ploy to consider, his seeming Presidential enhances a V-P candidacy again.

He told another group that the biggest issue of this campaign is the 'corrosive effects of money on politics'.

He sounded just like Bernie in that speech and seemed desperate to get the message across that 'you CAN stop it, you do have the power'.

He even told them that even if they liked HIM, they should know that NO ONE is immune from the effects that money has on politicians'.