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Omaha Steve

(99,632 posts)
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 09:34 PM Oct 2015

Bernie Sanders To Discuss Gun Law With Parents Of Aurora Shooting Victim

Source: Huffington Post

Daniel Marans

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) will meet with the parents of a woman who was killed in a mass shooting in 2012 to discuss the Democratic presidential candidate's vote in favor of a controversial gun law.

The Sanders campaign told The Huffington Post Tuesday that it had arranged for the senator to meet with Lonnie and Sandy Phillips, whose daughter, Jessica Ghawi, died at age 24 in the shooting at a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado.

The couple wants to speak with Sanders about his support for the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, a 2005 law that shields gun manufacturers and dealers from legal liability. The legislation prohibits civil liability lawsuits against the manufacturers, distributors and dealers of guns and ammunition for "damages, injunctive or other relief resulting from the misuse of their products by others."

The PLCAA is personal for the Phillipses. Last year, they sued the company that sold the bullets to the gunman who killed their daughter, and the legislation played a role in getting that lawsuit dismissed.

FULL story at link.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-gun-law-aurora_5626a0a8e4b0bce34702ac2d

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Bernie Sanders To Discuss Gun Law With Parents Of Aurora Shooting Victim (Original Post) Omaha Steve Oct 2015 OP
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #1
They sued a company that obeyed every state and federal law hack89 Oct 2015 #2
Uh....no. jeff47 Oct 2015 #3
The PLCAA DOES NOT shield firearm manufacturer's or dealers from liability GGJohn Oct 2015 #4
Wow! marym625 Oct 2015 #5
The Beltway is slobbering all over themselves ready to savage him for this.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #6
Funny you mention this davidpdx Oct 2015 #7
That's easy: Ben Carson to explain why he switched from a Democrat to a Republican. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #9
Ah so you read the same article? davidpdx Oct 2015 #10
Via here, Buzzflash or Crooks and Liars. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #11
Even if it the meeting doesn't "play well" politically it's the right thing to do That Guy 888 Oct 2015 #8
At this point the only justifiable stance is a straight repeal of the Second Amendment. frizzled Oct 2015 #12
We need a Constitutional Convention. nt thereismore Oct 2015 #13

hack89

(39,171 posts)
2. They sued a company that obeyed every state and federal law
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:21 PM
Oct 2015

Their basic complaint is the company should have magically known that Holmes was up to no good.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
3. Uh....no.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:39 PM
Oct 2015
Last year, they sued the company that sold the bullets to the gunman who killed their daughter, and the legislation played a role in getting that lawsuit dismissed.

Uh...no. A state law was even more specific, including making it possible for the ammo manufacturers to counter-sue.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
4. The PLCAA DOES NOT shield firearm manufacturer's or dealers from liability
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:49 PM
Oct 2015

if the product is defective or the law was violated, what it DOES shield them from is frivolous SLAPP suits designed to bankrupt the firemarms industry.

The Brady org and anti gun big city mayors colluded to file SLAPP suits against firearm companies for the criminal or negligent misuse of their product with the intent to bankrupt the firearms industry, IOW, they tried an end run around the 2A, it backfired on them spectacularly with the passage of the PLCAA in 2005.

Suing a firearm manufacturer for the criminal or negligent misuse of their product is akin to suing Chevy for a drunk driver injuring or killing someone in a Tahoe.
The Congress saw right through the anti 2A forces and took action to protect a perfectly legal industry.

And their lawsuit wasn't dismissed due to the PLCAA, it was dismissed under CO law.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
5. Wow!
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 11:21 PM
Oct 2015

That's certainly something. I don't know what the correct word would be. Brave isn't right.

Whatever the correct word is I'm glad to hear this.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
6. The Beltway is slobbering all over themselves ready to savage him for this....
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 01:37 AM
Oct 2015

There is a favorite game they play where you are NEVER supposed to change your position on ANYTHING or you are an unreliable flip flopper. ESPECIALLY if you change your opinion based on silly things like facts or emotional appeals. You are supposed to stubbornly stick to your guns (pun intended) until you look stupid doing it.

Like the rest of them.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
7. Funny you mention this
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 05:06 AM
Oct 2015

I'll give you 10 bonus stars if you can guess who said this:

"Does a person not have a right to have an alteration in their thinking over the course of time?”

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
8. Even if it the meeting doesn't "play well" politically it's the right thing to do
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 05:23 AM
Oct 2015

It's important to know the results of your actions.

Has anyone from the Clinton family met with people affected by the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act (ending Welfare as we know it)? I don't know the answer myself.

 

frizzled

(509 posts)
12. At this point the only justifiable stance is a straight repeal of the Second Amendment.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 12:47 PM
Oct 2015

Trying to finesse this fundamentally stupid and harmful constitutional "right" is just turd-polishing.

Actually, a rewrite of the entire constitution is way overdue.

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