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IDemo

(16,926 posts)
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 09:58 AM Nov 2015

U.S. House Speaker Ryan says it would be 'ridiculous' to work with Obama on immigration

Source: Reuters

U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Paul Ryan said on Sunday it would be ridiculous to work with President Barack Obama on immigration reform, saying he cannot trust the president on the issue.

"I think it would be a ridiculous notion to try and work on an issue like this with a president we simply cannot trust on this issue," Ryan said in an interview aired on the CBS program "Face the Nation."

"He tried to go it alone, circumventing the legislative process with his executive orders so that is not in the cards. I think if we reach consensus on how best to achieve border and interior enforcement security, I think that's fine," Ryan added.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/01/us-usa-congress-ryan-immigration-idUSKCN0SQ1V920151101



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U.S. House Speaker Ryan says it would be 'ridiculous' to work with Obama on immigration (Original Post) IDemo Nov 2015 OP
Hey Paul, before you accuse anyone, take a good look at yourself. hobbit709 Nov 2015 #1
as the POTUS says.... riversedge Nov 2015 #9
Black Adder - The Prince and the PM Xipe Totec Nov 2015 #12
Excellent!! tavernier Nov 2015 #40
LMAO - priceless! not cool when im drinking morning coffee, though! :) - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #16
I cracked up when I saw it also but I was not drinking java. riversedge Nov 2015 #23
It's the same old shit from these guys. GoneFishin Nov 2015 #2
The new Sphincter of the House opens up early. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #3
( ._.) Marty McGraw Nov 2015 #22
Ryan and his mentors McConnell and Koch Brothers, Wellstone ruled Nov 2015 #4
Wasserman-Shultz has to go! red dog 1 Nov 2015 #24
Somethings never change nt newfie11 Nov 2015 #5
BTW,you could have guessed this would go down this way, Wellstone ruled Nov 2015 #6
This is pure theater Robbins Nov 2015 #7
And On It Goes...... gembaby1 Nov 2015 #8
It's going to get worse. Gore1FL Nov 2015 #10
This right wing twit............................. turbinetree Nov 2015 #11
+ 1 red dog 1 Nov 2015 #25
Speaker Ryan is attempting to cover the fact that the House NCjack Nov 2015 #13
Exactly....there has been no "legislative process" skepticscott Nov 2015 #37
in other words...'we have no intentions on fixing immigration '... SummerSnow Nov 2015 #14
They don't even want deportation. tabasco Nov 2015 #19
Business as usual. SoapBox Nov 2015 #15
Not even a brief love affair Doubledee Nov 2015 #17
"Demanding a change of both leadership & strategies seems the only way to alter this.." red dog 1 Nov 2015 #27
Thanks for the welcome Doubledee Nov 2015 #38
Dems are failing b/c they have to keep begging for money, same as the R's who designed wordpix Nov 2015 #42
That was a whole lot of NOTHIN'..........................Ryan = Empty Bag. vkkv Nov 2015 #18
thats the job you ugly little scumbag olddots Nov 2015 #20
When harbors are 10 feet lower than they are now, Gregorian Nov 2015 #21
He's right. It's ridiculous. HassleCat Nov 2015 #26
I never thought I'd say this but, red dog 1 Nov 2015 #28
So much for "bipartisan, blah, blah" louis-t Nov 2015 #29
He just promised the tea party (nativist) caucus that he would not deal with Obama on immigration. pampango Nov 2015 #30
Ryan: "He made me not work with him!" LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 2015 #31
"U.S. House Speaker Ryan says it would be 'ridiculous' to work." Beartracks Nov 2015 #32
And we're off! Let the games begin! LuckyLib Nov 2015 #33
It would be ridiculous to even attempt madville Nov 2015 #34
What's more ridiculous than: "House Speaker Ryan"? nt Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2015 #35
Repubs are looking for Turbineguy Nov 2015 #36
There is nothing ridiculous about doing your job, you twit! The Wielding Truth Nov 2015 #39
the good news is moderate R's are getting sick of this shit. Case in point: wordpix Nov 2015 #41
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Still In Wisconsin Nov 2015 #43
And Who Trusts You Mr. Ryan? They Would Have To Be And Idiot Yallow Nov 2015 #44
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
4. Ryan and his mentors McConnell and Koch Brothers,
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 10:17 AM
Nov 2015

really know how to poison the waters. Hopefully the DNC will run with this and flip the House,oh forgot,were dealing with Wasserman-Shultz. Well,dreaming again.

red dog 1

(27,826 posts)
24. Wasserman-Shultz has to go!
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 02:45 PM
Nov 2015

IMO, a divided Democratic Party will not win next year, regardless of who the nominee is.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
6. BTW,you could have guessed this would go down this way,
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 10:21 AM
Nov 2015

after the 2012 ass kicking Ryan and his Dog abuser running mate got their asses handed to them,all about Ryan and F---- the Nation. Watch for funding cuts coming before New Years on Social Programs. If you doubt,take a look at what is going on in Wisconsin. It ain't pretty.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
7. This is pure theater
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 10:34 AM
Nov 2015

They worked with Obama on

TPP
War
budget deal to cut Social security disabilty and medicare to get more defense spending.

This is playing into the conservate you can't trust Obama on-fill In the blank.

GOP solution Is to deport everyone and put up a fence.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
11. This right wing twit.............................
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 10:53 AM
Nov 2015

wanted to be on vacation four days of the week out of seven days and he got it.

Then he will be in his office for only three days a week making $223,500 a year

Then to top it all off he hasn't read Article 1 Section 8 Paragraph 11 on this new crap from the last crap on placing American troops on the ground or in the air from the last twit that just got booted out of his job, so that he (Boehnor) can go wherever he is going to go and get over $100,000 drinking his merlot in taxpayer retirement, at least he can't be on the floor of the house passing out bribe money, now he can do it off campus

Maddow got it right






And this right wing hypocrite deflects his responsibilities on immigration and the measure that was passed in the senate over two years ago, and now this twit is going to continue the same crap with new crap, with some more of his Ayn Rand crap

Blah, Blah, Blah.......................







Honk-----------for a political revolution Bernie 2016

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
13. Speaker Ryan is attempting to cover the fact that the House
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 10:54 AM
Nov 2015

cannot produce an Immigration Bill, with or without working with Pres. Obama.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
37. Exactly....there has been no "legislative process"
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 02:27 PM
Nov 2015

to circumvent, because Congress has shown nothing but inactivity born of political cowardice on this issue. If I'm not mistaken, even GWB called for Congress to get off their ass on this issue, and they never did. Still haven't.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
14. in other words...'we have no intentions on fixing immigration '...
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 11:03 AM
Nov 2015

our intentions on 'fixing' it is deportation only'.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
19. They don't even want deportation.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 12:12 PM
Nov 2015

Corporations and big agriculture need cheap labor.

Same reason why Merkel let so many refugees into Germany.

Doubledee

(137 posts)
17. Not even a brief love affair
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 12:08 PM
Nov 2015

The system works on compromise, it always has and it will never work any other way. Ryan now demonstrates that compromise is not in his lexicon or that of his regrettably rightward spiraling party. Say what you will about Boehner but he tried mightily to achieve compromises and that led to his downfall.

Having said that , and having condemned the GOP for its refusal to do the business of all the people of this nation I must include the Democratic Party failures if I wish to portray a complete picture. We see the GOP winning the battle for the electorate, admittedly through hyperbole, naked appeals to anger and fear and with an unending river of money from the wealthiest of the extremists. We see ever more governors , ever more state houses, ever more members of Congress from the GOP. Those who support the Democrats, their platform and agendas must , if fair minded enough, find these constant loses intolerable and symptomatic. Demanding a change of both leadership and strategies seems the only way to alter this rightward spiral....

red dog 1

(27,826 posts)
27. "Demanding a change of both leadership & strategies seems the only way to alter this.."
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 02:53 PM
Nov 2015

I agree 100%.

How about demanding a change of leadership starting with getting rid of Debbie Wasserman Schultz as head of the DNC?

Welcome to DU!

Doubledee

(137 posts)
38. Thanks for the welcome
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 03:42 PM
Nov 2015

As one who is not a registered democrat I cannot demand anything from them. I do believe, however, that it is not so much a problem with individual leadership as it is with a serious conflict of interest. Once known as the "Big Tent", a party which embraced a wide spectrum of views and opinions, we now see a silenced Progressive Caucus, Black Caucus, and a strategy encompassed by a turn rightward, ostensibly to capture the voters left behind as the Republican Party moved even further rightward.

In my opinion, for whatever that is worth, I see both parties in the thrall of corporate money in order to finance ever more expensive elections. I doubt this is accidental. Replacing any individual leader does nothing, again in my opinion, to address the illness itself.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
42. Dems are failing b/c they have to keep begging for money, same as the R's who designed
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 11:06 PM
Nov 2015

the system where those with the most money win. One person, one vote is out the window in the rigged system.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
21. When harbors are 10 feet lower than they are now,
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 01:23 PM
Nov 2015

immigration will not be a topic of bullshit diversion...I mean discussion.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
26. He's right. It's ridiculous.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 02:52 PM
Nov 2015

Obama would never agree to post snipers and shoot Mexicans as they walk across the desert. So why bother?

pampango

(24,692 posts)
30. He just promised the tea party (nativist) caucus that he would not deal with Obama on immigration.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 03:04 PM
Nov 2015

He has to make it sound like that is Obama's fault, of course.

31. Ryan: "He made me not work with him!"
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 05:13 PM
Nov 2015

Sounds like the preschoolers my wife teaches. When asked why he hit another kid, the response was, "He was going to hit me!"

I guess kids learn the meaning of "preemptive strike" a lot sooner than we thought. I know Paul Ryan did.

Beartracks

(12,816 posts)
32. "U.S. House Speaker Ryan says it would be 'ridiculous' to work."
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 05:27 PM
Nov 2015

There, I fixed it.

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madville

(7,412 posts)
34. It would be ridiculous to even attempt
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 08:53 PM
Nov 2015

What could they possibly come up with the would be palatable to both sides and the President? It would literally be impossible at this point unless one party controlled the House, had 60+ seats in the Senate and the White House. Maybe in 10-20 years.

The Wielding Truth

(11,415 posts)
39. There is nothing ridiculous about doing your job, you twit!
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 08:23 PM
Nov 2015

The country needs to have responsible rules to help immigrants and those who must manage the immigration experience in the best and most humane manner.

It's your job now, to get it done and work with all the house representatives, the senate and the President.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
41. the good news is moderate R's are getting sick of this shit. Case in point:
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 11:02 PM
Nov 2015

I have husband-wife close relatives who are both R's, the only ones in the family. We seldom speak about politics so we can get along; however, today I broached the subject, asking the wife who she's supporting. She said she's supporting NO ONE! Not even Jebbie, who she knows. She spent a day with him and said, "I just knew after that he wouldn't be a good president. He has no personality." Wow! This from someone who adores Dimson and Chain-ee, both. About Trump, she said he would be a disaster and commented on his deportation policy. "That is not my country, to deport immigrants and break up families." I am really proud of her. Maybe she'll support a Dem this time.

 

Yallow

(1,926 posts)
44. And Who Trusts You Mr. Ryan? They Would Have To Be And Idiot
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 12:46 PM
Nov 2015

Mr. Obama "goes it alone" because your party wants me to hate "illegals". You want me to blame them for all the problems letting the oligarchs steal everything they want causes.

It not the fault of undocumented workers we closed 60,000 factories, and moved manufacturing to China. You know, China, where if you try to unionize, they KILL YOU.

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