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OxQQme

(2,550 posts)
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:23 PM Nov 2015

Carson sees a political significance to Noah’s Ark

Source: The Rachel Maddow Show / The MaddowBlog

< By some credible metrics, Ben Carson is the current frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination. Recent polling shows him leading not only at the national level, but also in the first caucus state.

The problem – one of them, anyway – is that Carson also seems manifestly unqualified to be president of the United States. He’s never sought or held elected office; he has no working understanding of government; and he’s never led anything larger than a medical department.

The retired right-wing neurosurgeon is aware of these concerns and, late last week, offered a striking response: “It is important to remember that amateurs built the Ark and it was the professionals that built the Titanic.”

It was unclear whether Carson was kidding. It’s entirely possible that the Republican candidate believes, sincerely, that Noah’s Ark was an actual, real-world structure that housed thousands of pairs of animals. He might even genuinely believe that the boat’s supposed existence is evidence of his presidential qualifications.>

Read more: http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/carson-sees-political-significance-noahs-ark?cid=sm_fb_maddow



WHAT??? How could this man be in the front seat of the clown car?
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Carson sees a political significance to Noah’s Ark (Original Post) OxQQme Nov 2015 OP
Ick. SoapBox Nov 2015 #1
Easily. Reagan was in the front seat even when he had Alzheimers. pnwmom Nov 2015 #2
Quite true, Carson would be the puppet with his strings being pulled by the R regime. Carson RKP5637 Nov 2015 #4
good theory & since Club for Growth hate Trump, they're probably the puppetmasters wordpix Nov 2015 #28
Exactly, and since Bush has failed to be the leading star they now see Carson as a RKP5637 Nov 2015 #31
Anesthesia exposure over 20 years of Carsons Neurosurgery. search Anesthesia & Alzheimers Sunlei Nov 2015 #33
This, is a scary country filled with damn fools that can't think for themselves. "IF" Carson RKP5637 Nov 2015 #3
I'm REALLY starting to wonder about the American populace. This nut would be laughed off the .. BlueJazz Nov 2015 #5
60% of Americans believe Noahs Ark was real. ErikJ Nov 2015 #14
I understand. Even as a child (about 12), when I found out that a high percentage of people ... BlueJazz Nov 2015 #15
And about 60% of Americans are as dumb as a bag of rocks when they vote, and are RKP5637 Nov 2015 #32
70% of Americans believe that angels KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #44
I think this clown could butt fuck a goat on air and the GOP morons valerief Nov 2015 #6
OMFG-LOL Grassy Knoll Nov 2015 #17
We were just discussing that this morning when Kim Davis raised her ugly RKP5637 Nov 2015 #34
United Stupidity. So true! This must be how they made the Middle East valerief Nov 2015 #35
Many days I'm concerned we're going down the Middle East path. Different religion, different place RKP5637 Nov 2015 #37
Right. It's the SAME OLIGARCH path for both. nt valerief Nov 2015 #38
The idiot factor in the US is high and continues to grow. As a child I used to be impressed with RKP5637 Nov 2015 #46
But only a female goat. They don't want no Gay Beastiality!! Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #39
just look at the people who are applauding the clown car!! my estimation of the intelligence niyad Nov 2015 #7
well, except that the titanic is real, and the ark. . . . niyad Nov 2015 #8
Why is he doing so well? IronLionZion Nov 2015 #9
For Cthulhu's sake, this has nothing to do with religion! jmowreader Nov 2015 #10
Well said!!!! valerief Nov 2015 #18
How could this man be in the front seat of the clown car? SmittynMo Nov 2015 #11
Two reasons jmowreader Nov 2015 #23
Carson's support comes from numbskuill racists Darb Nov 2015 #36
When all is said and done, who will we be running against? jmowreader Nov 2015 #47
An interesting take on the ark HassleCat Nov 2015 #12
"Honey, I Shrunk the Zoo." valerief Nov 2015 #20
Yeah! It woud be funny to hear a bull elephant trumpet in a little mosquito voice. (eom) HassleCat Nov 2015 #21
So THAT explains it! jmowreader Nov 2015 #24
If He could do that, I'm sure he could have built the Ark himself. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #40
Noah's ark lasted about two months, traveled nowhere and, apparently disintegrated. Gore1FL Nov 2015 #13
I'm pretty sure that next year at this time Carson will be flinging his shit against the wall. valerief Nov 2015 #16
This has got me wondering what candidates might be like in 20 years. Gregorian Nov 2015 #19
quick, Elaine, to the emblem books! MisterP Nov 2015 #22
Ben Carson unveils bold plan to combat rising sea levels. trusty elf Nov 2015 #25
love it! wordpix Nov 2015 #29
Not qualified Nonhlanhla Nov 2015 #26
I am imminently more qualified to be President. At least I'm sane. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #41
Go read the Answers in Genesis garbage... TipTok Nov 2015 #42
Answers in Genesis is garbage Nonhlanhla Nov 2015 #45
Carson is a nut case Gothmog Nov 2015 #27
yeah Ben Carson, the Titanic was to big to fail, like our Banks *wink* Sunlei Nov 2015 #30
This isn't gall. It's mental illness. Freelancer Nov 2015 #43
Well said. n/t MBS Nov 2015 #48
I agree that "Carson...seems manifestly unqualified to be president of the United States" paul ofnoclique Nov 2015 #49

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
1. Ick.
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:26 PM
Nov 2015

And on Chris Hayes, he was talking to some gal (reporter?)...barfo, she was giving a GLOWWING run down on him.

Gag.

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
2. Easily. Reagan was in the front seat even when he had Alzheimers.
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:28 PM
Nov 2015

His handlers will find Carson very easy to control -- through appeals to his ego -- just as Reagan's and the Shrub's handlers did.

Narcissists like Carson can be manipulated very easily by people like Cheney. Someone is behind this puppet, pulling his strings.

Or will be, if he manages to pull off the primary.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
4. Quite true, Carson would be the puppet with his strings being pulled by the R regime. Carson
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:30 PM
Nov 2015

would never comprehend what's going on.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
31. Exactly, and since Bush has failed to be the leading star they now see Carson as a
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 10:32 AM
Nov 2015

malleable rising star they can perhaps push into office. Also, Carson does not know WTF he's doing, so that makes him an even better robot for their shenanigans.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
3. This, is a scary country filled with damn fools that can't think for themselves. "IF" Carson
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:28 PM
Nov 2015

were president, then the US might as well start writing its epitaph.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
5. I'm REALLY starting to wonder about the American populace. This nut would be laughed off the ..
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:33 PM
Nov 2015

...stage in most other countries.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
14. 60% of Americans believe Noahs Ark was real.
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 11:04 PM
Nov 2015

So go figure. He's either dumb or using religion to manipulate and get votes like most Repubs do.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
15. I understand. Even as a child (about 12), when I found out that a high percentage of people ...
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 11:25 PM
Nov 2015

.. believed in Fairies and Angels, I started thinking "This is not the world I wanted to live in"

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
32. And about 60% of Americans are as dumb as a bag of rocks when they vote, and are
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 10:35 AM
Nov 2015

easily manipulated by pressing the right buttons for them.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
6. I think this clown could butt fuck a goat on air and the GOP morons
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:35 PM
Nov 2015

would still vote for him. This country is insane, utterly and completely insane.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
34. We were just discussing that this morning when Kim Davis raised her ugly
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 10:43 AM
Nov 2015

rhetoric again with her team of nincompoop lawyers on the take for $$$$'s. There are so damn many crazies in the US today. It is literally US = United Stupidity.

It runs throughout the entire country. If he continues to gain momentum there are enough damn fools in the US to make him a serious contender.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
35. United Stupidity. So true! This must be how they made the Middle East
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 10:48 AM
Nov 2015

and all their insanity. Just out-crazy the next guy until self-defense is long forgotten and half your day is spent praying. At least, monks keep their mouths shut.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
37. Many days I'm concerned we're going down the Middle East path. Different religion, different place
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 11:08 AM
Nov 2015

and people, but IMO some are treading that path. IMO some of the religious RW would be just like ISIS given the chance.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
46. The idiot factor in the US is high and continues to grow. As a child I used to be impressed with
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 05:08 PM
Nov 2015

the US, but the growing idiot factor is destroying that. In my youth many of the presidential hopefuls of today would have been laughed off their perch.

niyad

(113,573 posts)
7. just look at the people who are applauding the clown car!! my estimation of the intelligence
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:35 PM
Nov 2015

of the average voter has plummeted in recent decades, and more so in the last few years.

IronLionZion

(45,530 posts)
9. Why is he doing so well?
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:42 PM
Nov 2015

I find it very odd that he's still in the game for this long. The first primaries are coming up soon.

Hopefully America wakes up soon, they'll realize that the GOP has completely lost their minds.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
10. For Cthulhu's sake, this has nothing to do with religion!
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:42 PM
Nov 2015

"Amateurs built the Ark, professionals built the Titanic" is a VERY common right-wing meme used to explain why we should elect people with no experience in politics. Because...well, you know, OBVIOUSLY people who've never built a ship before are much better at it than people who do it for a living.

I have to wonder: when Ben Carson goes in for that colostomy he needs to find his head, is he going to hire a doctor or a pastry chef to do it?

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
11. How could this man be in the front seat of the clown car?
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:44 PM
Nov 2015

It quite simple. The GOP is self destructing at all all time high. No one wants to vote for the establishment candidates. Republicants in this country have had enough. They're done. ANYONE ELSE will do. Give it a month, and then let's see who will be the top clown.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
23. Two reasons
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 01:12 AM
Nov 2015

Reason 1: they want a business person, not anyone who's ever held elective office of any kind...but they'll settle for a businessman who took a short break from business to dabble in politics. This narrows the field down to Donald Trump, Ben Carson and Carly Fiorina. Think back to the last two Republicans to run for president: both of them had a lot more business experience than political.

Reason 2: Of the three "business people," Ben Carson is, sad to say, the closest to being a sane choice. Trump is nuttier than a fruitcake and Carly Fiorina's experience is in firing people and running companies into the ground. Carson was, when he was in the business world, one of the best in the world at his chosen profession.

Carson's problem is, the things teabaggers look for in a president (namely, the willingness to cut taxes to the bone and completely deregulate guns, and the ability to bring up Talibornagain religion at least once a minute) are not the things the general electorate wants to see. I think the only way we DON'T win against Ben Carson, is if we run Lee Mercer Jr. as our candidate.

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
36. Carson's support comes from numbskuill racists
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 11:03 AM
Nov 2015

who believe he will win because African Americans are so stuuuupid they will vote for skin color, instead of what is in their best interest. They can abide a "real African American" if he is waaaaaaaaaay talibornagain. And he is.

Carson will founder.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
47. When all is said and done, who will we be running against?
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 05:29 PM
Nov 2015

I'm leaning Kasich - former governor (executive experience), not all that well known outside his home state (which means his failings, and there are many, also aren't all that well known outside his home state), not so conservative he'll scare grandma into the D column, and not given to Trump/Carson/Fiorina/Christie-style verbal diarrhea. Also isn't related to the guy who started Great Depression II.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
12. An interesting take on the ark
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:58 PM
Nov 2015

I read somewhere that God shrunk the animals to make them all fit on the ark, then brought them back to their normal size when the journey was over. He did this not just to make them fit, but to prevent Noah and his family from being trampled, eaten, etc.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
24. So THAT explains it!
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 01:15 AM
Nov 2015

IIRC it took a year for the floodwaters to completely recede. If God hadn't done SOMETHING, when the Ark landed atop Mount Ararat the only things that would have walked out of that boat would have been four beach ball-shaped apex predators.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
40. If He could do that, I'm sure he could have built the Ark himself.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 11:50 AM
Nov 2015

I have NO REASON WHATSOEVER to doubt that Carson really believes what he says. He is an educated MORAN!

Gore1FL

(21,151 posts)
13. Noah's ark lasted about two months, traveled nowhere and, apparently disintegrated.
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 11:01 PM
Nov 2015

While there were demonstrable design flaws in the titanic, I'd rather be on it than Noah's Ark on any given journey.

Even the metaphor sucks.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
16. I'm pretty sure that next year at this time Carson will be flinging his shit against the wall.
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 11:58 PM
Nov 2015

He's a fuckin' lunatic. Fried brains. Severed. Stabbed. Hammered. Totally insane. Really.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
19. This has got me wondering what candidates might be like in 20 years.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 12:12 AM
Nov 2015

What could possibly make idiocracy seem quaint.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
26. Not qualified
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 07:47 AM
Nov 2015

Carson is so obviously, glaringly unqualified to be president. It boggles my mind that anyone can take him seriously.

He is also unqualified in the religion department. No real religion scholar takes the story of Noah's ark literally. I teach the story to my college students, alongside the flood story in the Epic of Gilgamesh (one of several versions of the story that predate the Noah version - the oldest one, the Eridu Genesis, dating back to 2300 BCE, while Noah only dates back to somewhere between 1000-500 BCE if I remember correctly). I love the story, and it's fun to see the changes the ancient Hebrew writers (there were 2 versions, woven together later by redactors) made to the original stories (all of which also differ a little bit from each other, while keeping the same plot). I despise literal readings of it, because it is not only ridiculous (in terms of being impossible), but it also completely misses the point of the story, which was to retell a common story of the time into a tale of monotheism vs. polytheism.

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
42. Go read the Answers in Genesis garbage...
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 12:12 PM
Nov 2015

They take all the other variants as proof that their specific version is the truth.

I just boggle at some of the idiocy they spew...

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
45. Answers in Genesis is garbage
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 04:52 PM
Nov 2015

I agree that Answers in Genesis is garbage. The material in the first 11 chapters of the Bible is mythological, and it's actually fascinating stuff, but literal readings of it gives me the creeps. I am religious, but I hate fundamentalism with the fire of a thousand suns, LOL!

Freelancer

(2,107 posts)
43. This isn't gall. It's mental illness.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 01:30 PM
Nov 2015

Maybe it's best for those waiting in cues for brain surgery that Carson has taken down his shingle. He may be messed up in the head.

There is no more specialized skill than neurosurgeon. No amateurs are allowed in the operating theater -- ever. If someone showed up saying God told them to operate, they'd be quickly arrested and spend time in a psych ward.

Carson shows up, with no experience in government, expecting to run a country with a 17 trillion dollar economy, while comparing himself to Noah. This isn't gall. It's mental illness.

 

paul ofnoclique

(81 posts)
49. I agree that "Carson...seems manifestly unqualified to be president of the United States"
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 06:44 PM
Nov 2015

In fact, I'm certain he's unqualified! But what member of the 2016 GOPack IS?

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