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Omaha Steve

(99,686 posts)
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:25 PM Nov 2015

Evacuation lifted after fire at fracking chemical warehouse

Source: AP

LEETSDALE, Pa. (AP) — Workers at a Pennsylvania warehouse were pouring hydraulic fracturing chemicals into a production tank Tuesday when a fire started, forcing residents from more than 70 nearby homes for several hours and injuring several people, emergency and company officials said.

Hazardous materials crews moved people living near the warehouse in Leetsdale to a high school gymnasium as a precaution. They were allowed to return after crews announced the fire was largely under control just before 3:30 p.m. Tuesday.

The fire was at Lubrizol Corp.'s Oilfield Chemistry site about 15 miles northwest of Pittsburgh.

The company and Allegheny County Emergency Services Chief Alvin Henderson said three employees were injured. One reportedly had a burned hand and two inhaled fumes, Henderson said. Several firefighters were also being evaluated for inhaling fumes. None of the injuries was deemed life-threatening, Henderson and the company said.

FULL story at link.


Smoke fills the air from a chemical warehouse fire in Leetsdale, Pa., Tuesday, Nov. 17, 2015. The large, smoky chemical warehouse fire near Pittsburgh has forced residents from about 70 nearby homes to be evacuated and injured several people. (Bob Donaldson/Pittsburgh Post-Gazette via AP) MAGS OUT; NO SALES; MONESSEN OUT; KITTANNING OUT; CONNELLSVILLE OUT; GREENSBURG OUT; TARENTUM OUT; NORTH HILLS NEWS RECORD OUT; BUTLER OUT; MANDATORY CREDIT

Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/dfdc598fb34e4922b03750e456aa17de/homes-evacuated-due-warehouse-fire-near-pittsburgh

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Evacuation lifted after fire at fracking chemical warehouse (Original Post) Omaha Steve Nov 2015 OP
In other words underpants Nov 2015 #1
That's terrible, but solar panel field fires are even worse on communities. valerief Nov 2015 #2
Speaking of solar panel field fires, strangely enough they ARE terrible jmowreader Nov 2015 #5
That's why I said solar panel field fires, not solar panel roof fires. valerief Nov 2015 #6
So what happens when that grove of trees behind the solar array catches fire? jmowreader Nov 2015 #8
There's no deli shop in the field. nt valerief Nov 2015 #9
There were over 70 homes evacuated. appleannie1 Nov 2015 #3
The local news DirtyHippyBastard Nov 2015 #4
Omission was bought and paid for. nt valerief Nov 2015 #7

valerief

(53,235 posts)
2. That's terrible, but solar panel field fires are even worse on communities.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:55 PM
Nov 2015

Same thing with the wind turbine tornadoes. Those things really devastate communities. A little toxic fracking fire, meh.


Do I need ?

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
5. Speaking of solar panel field fires, strangely enough they ARE terrible
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 07:16 PM
Nov 2015

Dietz and Watson, who makes deli meat, suffered a fire in its Delanco, NJ, warehouse in September 2013. They couldn't fight the fire because the huge solar array on the roof of the building caused such an electrical hazard fire crews couldn't work without getting electrocuted. They wound up having to let the building burn to the ground.

http://www.nj.com/burlington/index.ssf/2013/09/dietz_and_watson_warehouse_fire_solar_panels_make_battling_blaze_much_harder_officials_say.html

"We may very well not be able to save buildings that have alternative energy," William Kramer, New Jersey’s acting fire marshall, said after Delanco Fire Chief Ron Holt refused to send his firefighters onto the roof of the 300,000-square foot Dietz & Watson facility, ablaze since Sunday afternoon.

Solar panels are particularly hazardous to firefighters for a number of reasons, according to Ken Willette, a division manager with the National Fire Protection Association.

"There is a possibility of electric shock because the electricity to the panels can’t be shut off," he said, "and not having a clear path on the roof to cut a ventilation hole is another challenge."

valerief

(53,235 posts)
6. That's why I said solar panel field fires, not solar panel roof fires.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 07:21 PM
Nov 2015

This is a solar panel field.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
8. So what happens when that grove of trees behind the solar array catches fire?
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 07:50 PM
Nov 2015

Or a destructive weather system trashes the thing?

Let's not forget how they make these things: amorphous silicon solar panels are grown from a gas called Silane, the formula of which is SiH4. "Say, that looks familiar!" Yup, it's basically methane with the central carbon atom replaced with a central silicon atom - except that it's more flammable, more of an explosion hazard, and a poison gas to boot.

The moral of this story: There is NO completely benign source of energy. None. Fuels all pollute the environment. Solar panels are dangerous to make. Wind turbines are dangerous to make AND hazardous to birds. Hydroelectric changes the topology of the land and alters fish habit, and if a dam breaks the wave of water kills people downstream from it. Geothermal...it's probably as close to benign as you'll run into, but you can probably find someone who'll tell you we can't drill into the earth because the little devils will come up from Hades and turn us all into...I don't know, liberals or something. (All together now: "and that would be GOOD, right?&quot We can't eliminate all the assaults on the environment, but we can reduce them to the lowest practical amount.

DirtyHippyBastard

(217 posts)
4. The local news
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 06:33 PM
Nov 2015

made no mention of the name of the company involved, or that it was a fracking chemical warehouse. I find their omissions very interesting.

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